Weather--All Natural

[Sebiale]

All Natural also allows you to choose from only vanilla weathers or from some or all the weather types from Natural Weather, Atmospheric Weather System, and Enhanced Weather.

So, does the Weather All Natural come packaged with everything from those mods as well, or just make it compatible with all of those if they're installed?

[TodaY]

All Natural also allows you to choose from only vanilla weathers or from some or all the weather types from Natural Weather, Atmospheric Weather System, and Enhanced Weather.

So, does the Weather All Natural come packaged with everything from those mods as well, or just make it compatible with all of those if they're installed?

 

It includes them

[Sebiale]

I don't get the ending of your spoilers :P

 

Any ideas on what to do if OBMM can't seem to find the omod conversion data for All Natural? I see it when I unpack the archive, but OBMM can't seem to find it when I try to create it.

[TodaY]

That sounds like an OBMM bug, not an all natural bug.... and I have no idea how to fix it ;l

[Smooth613]

You need Wrye Bash and the Bashed Patch function to properly install and configure All Natural anyway. Look at is a good thing it wouldn't install with OBMM as you would have just ran into trouble. You really should read the readme before continuing with All Natural or you'll have some problems. Obviously you haven't read much if any of the readme yet or you wouldn't have needed to ask the first question. It's not good practice to ignore readmes, they're great sources of information. Read it and read it again to find out what you missed.

 

It's a great mod, the best in the weather department, when installed and configured properly. But can be a real headache and cause issues when simple instructions are ignored.

 

I'm just trying to look out for ya. Good luck.

[TodaY]

You need Wrye Bash and the Bashed Patch function to properly install and configure All Natural anyway. Look at is a good thing it wouldn't install with OBMM as you would have just ran into trouble. You really should read the readme before continuing with All Natural or you'll have some problems. Obviously you haven't read much if any of the readme yet or you wouldn't have needed to ask the first question. It's not good practice to ignore readmes, they're great sources of information. Read it and read it again to find out what you missed.

 

It's a great mod, the best in the weather department, when installed and configured properly. But can be a real headache and cause issues when simple instructions are ignored.

 

I'm just trying to look out for ya. Good luck.

 

Uuuum... That a bashed patch is required doesnt mean you can't install with OBMM. And all natural does come with omod script but not in bain. Also... I dont read he doesn't use wrye anywhere.

[Sebiale]

I had read the readme, but I had not read anywhere where it expressly said that it comes bundled with the other mods. So I was leery of the statement I quoted, especially when the readme expressly says stuff like this:

This is not compatible with any interior weather or lightning mod besides Storms and Sound by Deathless Aphrodite

or

Do NOT Use These Mods:

 

Natural Weather, Arthur’s Weather, AWS, Enhanced Weather (unless you use EW SI only, and are not using All Natural's SI support)

 

I do have Wrye Bash, its complexity just frightens me so I avoid using it.

The readme also has directions for installing it via OBMM. It does not say it can only be installed using Wrye Bain. Although it does say it needs Wrye Bash to work.

[Smooth613]

Uuuum... That a bashed patch is required doesnt mean you can't install with OBMM. And all natural does come with omod script but not in bain. Also... I dont read he doesn't use wrye anywhere.

I never said anywhere that he couldn't install it with OBMM, nor did I say he didn't have Wrye Bash. I simply said look at it as a good thing that the OMOD install when sour, a good time to get familiar with Wrye Bash since the patch is required. Plus All Natural can be installed via BAIN, the file structure is there and very easy to use BAIN installation. Copy the archive to your BAIN Installers folder, open Wrye Bash, click Installers tab and bam, there ya go. You can see the file structure of the archive and select what you need or want to install. Anyway I'm not here to bicker, I'm trying to help the OP solve the issue at hand.

 

 

I had read the readme, but I had not read anywhere where it expressly said that it comes bundled with the other mods. So I was leery of the statement I quoted, especially when the readme expressly says stuff like this:

This is not compatible with any interior weather or lightning mod besides Storms and Sound by Deathless Aphrodite

-snip-

Actually the ReadMe does expressly say it comes bundled with the other mods. Here is a quote from the Readme in section VII. Compatibility.

This should not be used with any mod that is already included in All Natural (Real Lights, Natural Interiors, Natural Weather, AWS, and Enhanced Weather)

 

 

I do have Wrye Bash, its complexity just frightens me so I avoid using it.

The readme also has directions for installing it via OBMM. It does not say it can only be installed using Wrye Bain. Although it does say it needs Wrye Bash to work.

Yes you can install using OBMM if you wish, the conversion file is included. I was merely suggesting you use Wrye Bash and BAIN since you'll need a Bashed Patch anyway. Don't let Wrye Bash intimidate you, it's really not that complex at all, especially just the basics. Building a Bashed Patch is very simple actually, just read over the documentation I linked there for you. Now with that said some of the more advanced features of Wrye can be complex, but the average user will never need such functions. The average user will use Wrye Bash for the simple things, like maintaining Load Order, BSA Redirection, and the Bashed Patch, or BAIN installers if you choose. *Note* You can still use OBMM alongside Wrye if you would rather use OMODs to install. Simply use Wrye Bash for the Bashed Patch only if you choose. If that's your choice then Wrye Bash becomes extremely simple to use, since you're only using, and only need to learn, one function.

 

I'm just trying to help you get this sorted out and spread some knowledge in the process. I personally think everyone should use Wrye Bash for it's superior functionality and compatibility, but hey that's my opinion. It's a choice though for each user, use what's easiest and best for you, that's what counts. If you have any more issues trying to get All Natural to work I'll do what I can to help, just post back here. I've had All Natural up and running for quite a while now with no issues and I have to say it is the best weather mod out there. So that's why I try to help anyone that has trouble with it, I don't want them to miss out on an amazing mod that blows the competition away.

 

Good luck.

[Sebiale]

I try to use OMODs if I can, although I did install Apachii's stores and Roberts Body manually. (The Stores were just taking so long to install via OBMM, and I wanted options from Roberts that I wasn't getting from its OMOD, although now I have a headhuman.dds conflict between Roberts MBR and HGEC.)

 

I think I may have broken OBMM, I accidentally forced it close one day when it was working (I meant to hit Wait for the program to respond but I missed) And now it's having these conversion data issues, and it can only seem to find conflict when I try to activate it instead of beforehand (as in it won't be marked red until i actually try to activate it.)

[Smooth613]

Well if OBMM is borked somehow why not reinstall it to see if this fixes the issues you are describing. I would suggest deactivating all mods first in OBMM, back up your mod folder with your OMODs (Oblivion > obmm > mods) so you don't lose them, back up your LO if you don't use BOSS, then uninstall with the provided uninstaller.exe. (Oblivion > obmm > uninstaller) Then delete the OBMM folder from your Oblivion directory if it's not already gone and reinstall OBMM. Move your OMODs back to the proper directory and activate/install them. See if that solves your issues mentioned in the previous post. Report back with results.

 

Good luck.