Black/Pink texture bug

[BarthyChomp]

Well, first, hello and sorry for my english, not my native language. :sleep:

I recently bough a new graphic card, so I decided naturally to re-mod skyrim and I install a lot of HD texture pack.

And I start to experienced a weird bug with my texture, they start to randomly turn black or pink.

Not specific textures, but sometime walls, or weapon, or grass, or anything else.

And the rest of the game continue to look just fine. :confused:

 

After testing a lot of thing and digging in many forum to understand, i seems to be a Vram issue or something.

I think the bug as a link with SSME (skyrim startup memory editor), the textures begin to f**ked up when I hit the 3.1Gb limit of skyrim.

Before that, everything work perfectly.

So I have the choice between my game go freeze or my texture go nuts after a while.

 

I have first try many fix, enbboost, Hialgoboost, memory fix, texture optimizer, etc, nothing seems to work.
Then I try to down the quality of the mods, not installing 4K or ultra HD meshes, just 1k and 2k textures, still the same.

Load order change with or whithout L.O.O.T didn't work either.

 

I know that I have a lot of heavy mod like Jk's city or lush tree but my game run smooth (more or less 50-60 fps most of the time) so I don't understand why this happen.

 

My Pc specs :

i7 2700k Cpu 3.50GHz

16Go of RAM

Nvidia GTX 970

Steam version of Skyrim with all Dlc

My driver are update

I use Stakado Cinemascope ENB

Since I have a pretty strong configuration, I start to think that's a game engine problem, but I have seen many YouTube vids of people running "Ultra 4K with motherf*cking parralax of hell with Ulta HD flying pets with 4k fur with physics" so It's probably just me doing something wrong.

 

I'm relatively carefull when installing mods so at this point, I can't figure what am I doing wrong =/

Is it a mod, or my Cg, or Enb, I have no idea =/

 

Sooo.. Help ? :laugh:

 

 

Sorry if the answer is really obvious or explain in another post, but after a week of searching a clear answer, I still find nothing helpful =/

 

Thanks. :sleep:

[WizardlyWerks]

Well first off your problem isnt that your recieving black/pink texture; your problem is that the object models arnt recieving the textures. most of the time this results in getting a purple colored model not a pink or black model.

 

This could be caused by several things but my guess would be in the lack of default heap space bethesda deemed fitting on release. It might be redundant of me to say, being that you have already stated your attempt to fix the model with a memory patch however if you havnt tried it yet i would point you to Memory Blocks Log : http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50471/? as it increases the amount of default heap space the game has to work with.

 

If you need help installing there is a tutorial on the mod page that will walk you through installation.

 

Again this is my initial assumption , being that you heavily mod, so i apoligize if my advice is redundant.

[BarthyChomp]

Well Ihave already try that, fellowing all the Gopher's tutorial, and it's sadly not working. =/

 

The way I understand it, Memory block and SSME have the same goal : Allocate more memory to the first memory block of skyrim to prevent the change to block 2 (what skyrim doesn't handle very well and usually end with freeze or crash)

 

I try both method, with d3dx9_42.dll (ssme) and with the MemoryBlock (With SKSE.ini as showed by Gopher) and it work, my game does not crash when memory got very high.

But the texture problem remain inchanged, still random and happening after a short time (5 min in busy memory area like heavy forest)

 

I also think that some texture stop being charged after some time, but I don't know why, because the game continue to run smoothly and perfectly =/

I re-install the game and I have not many mod installed :

 

Just textures mods with climate of tamriel, Elfx, Purewater, immersive armor and weapon, SMIM, lush tree, bigger tree, some armor collection, cloak and winter is coming, and some of JK's city modification.

 

And I doubt that one of the mods I have f*cked up the game, because of the random factor.

 

So thank you for the advice, but i'm still lost. :sad:

[camaro_69_327]

Download SPM (Skyrim Performance Monitor) Run till the textures go Black, Post the Graph.

 

Black textures is a sign you are loading more textures then you have VRAM. when the game loads more textures then available VRAM it randomly decides what texture not to load, and that is what you see, Black textures.

 

Pink,blue,Violet (depending on how your monitor is displaying the color) are missing textures.

 

What is the amount of VRAM your GPU has?...i dont even run HD 2 K , only Bethesda HR DLC's and am constantly loaded to 2.8 GB VRAM.

[WizardlyWerks]

Well in that case have you edited any .ini files? If you recently re-installed Skyrim you might be missing some code snippets that are required by the mods you use, this could cause rendering issues and the whatnot.

 

Is this an old savefile?? U might be having problems due to removed mods, check and see if you have pink/black textures across multiple saves. If it only happens to one save a papyrus clean could restore the integrity, if it DOES happen across multiple saves then you ned to start checking the mods you uses off until you find the cause of your error. (My guess is maybe your ENB, ELFx or Climates of Tamriel is messes with the rendering but thats a stab in the dark.

 

If none of that works then it might be an issue with your specs... might!! I highly doubt this as missing textures isnt a sideffect to bad hardware, plus you have a pretty sweet setup!

[BarthyChomp]

Soooo !

 

WizardlyWerks --> First I have a 99% finished save from the nexus for testing, but I have tried with a fresh new character and experienced the same issues.

I have also try many things with the .ini : fresh new, modified with gopher or some nexus guys advices, etc. The only thing working is the line who set my texture setting to "medium", not quite what I want when installing Hd textures =/

 

So I begin to think that camaro_69_357 might be right with the Vram problem.

 

Here's a screenshot of the graph from SPM : http://postimg.org/image/xe2rhajn1/ (Sorry I try to post the images, but doesn't want to work -__-' I'm not used with forum post =/)

 

I have 4Gb of Vram and 16Go of Ram and it seems that the Vram shortly burst to 100% and that's why the textures go nuts.

But since I don't have 3 billions of texture mod and avoid 4k or parallax, I don't understand why my system don't handle this =/

Maybe the combination of lush tree and bigger tree is to heavy with all the rest, 'im gonna do some testing, but it surprise me that my brand new 970gtx start crying so early.

Especially since my system is freshly formated, nearly nothing appart skyrim is installed and I don't touch uGrids or other stuff like that.

 

Don't understand ^^

 

Anyways, thanks for your answer, I continue testing :)

[WizardlyWerks]

OK I'm spit-balling at this point, but i have a couple more questions that can help narrow your search, do you have problems with other games or is this problem exclusive to Skyrim. If you have problems with other games you might have a corrupted graphics card. If this problem only exists within Skyrim then it might be the ENB you use.I recently updated my Version of RealVision and I had to run the RV_Installer to define my VRam space

 

The mod page for your ENB might direct you to run something else.

I took a look at the ENB you use and it directed Nvidia users to download http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33227/?

 

IF that doesn't work then I would try another ENB, by the looks of it there are plenty of people who have experienced problems with that mod. If you try another ENB and find the problem goes away I'd contact the mod author and hopefully u can get a fix.

 

Other than that all I can say is its not a problem with lush trees and grasses. You have a much nicer setup then I'm working and I've never had a problem with VRam space.

 

P.S sorry for slow replies, I don't have a lot of time during the week :/

Edited January 16, 2015 by WizardlyWerks

[KimberJ]

You got too many mods or a bunch of deactivated mods in the load order. If you got mods you don't use, the .esp or .esm in the load order that are not activated because you don't wana use em, then delete those. If you got too many mods, then use wyre bash to merge the mods that don't matter into a bashed patch. (namely small mods without MCM or are required by other mods)

 

This or you screwed up the install, which happens all the time. It's why we make backups after mods are downloaded, so we don't have to download it again ever. Then in many cases because of the complexity, you have to make more than one attempt from scratch making the build of modded beth games, because we make mistakes. It's got nothing to do with the 970, lulz.

[Darkened666]

The biggest mistake what new mod installers make is that they install every single 4k texture pack and heavy script mods and then they wonder why their game isn't working.

 

I can give my advice how to get the best stable modded Skyrim you will ever have!

 

1. uninstall skyrim, remove the skyrim file from steam completely so nothing isn't left behind, remove skyrim,ini and skyrimprefs.ini. Now install Skyrim again and after it is installed start Skyrim let it configurate settings, then open graphics settings and turn AF and AA off and if you have FXAA on turn it off too (do this only if you use ENB).

 

2. add SKSE files to Skyrim folder (not into the Data file!!!) and make a shortcut to your desktop. Now go to skyrim data folder and find the SKSE folder and make a new ini file called "SKSE.ini" and inside that file add these lines:

 

[Display]
iTintTextureResolution=2048

[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

 

 

3. Now to the master file cleaning. Here is a link:

Gopher explains the cleaning much better than I do.

 

4. Now to the most fun part mod installing. Okay first you should definitely install the unofficial patches for main game and all the dlcs you have and if you have hi-res dlc (it is free) installed too download hi-res unofficial patch too. Now after you have installed these patches install Skyrim Project Optimization. Alright now you have a bit more stable Skyrim.

Alright now to installing the REAL mods. This is where my only advice is that you install maybe15-20 well maybe even 30 mods first and before you install check that you have everything that the mods require and that they are compatible with each other.

 

5. Alright now you have installed lets say 20 mods and you want to make Skyrim even more stable, well there is 2 simple solutions, merge patch and batched patch. First lets make a merge patch. Go to tes5edit, select all plugins except if you are using Dual sheath redux, ASIS or you already have batched patch remove those from the list. Okay now the tes5edit loads these mods and shows "finished". Now scroll to the bottom and select the last mod and right mouse click, go to "others", select merge patch and just press yes if it says "it is not supported" bla bla, type the name you want for the file, then the tes5edit adds the mods to merge patch and then you are finished.

 

6.

heres a link for "how to make batched patch" and this one gives better details about bashed patch. I recommend to install it: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36189/?

 

7. Some good advices to keep Skyrim always stable. Okay first always install 2-3 mods when you want to add more mods to your game and make merge patch and bashed patch again, but don't do this if the mods are only texture mods. second testing if your Skyrim is stable, open console type tcl, tgm, player.forceav speedmult 900, player.forceav stamina 9999. Now run around the whole skyrim maybe kill few people on the way to see if your Skyrim is stable and doesn't crash. third sort your plugins always with LOOT. Everytime when you install new mod that adds plugins use LOOT. If you start to have crashes with your Skyrim uninstall the latest mods you installed. You should only clean mods if the mod author says in his/hers page to clean the files or that LOOT says that the plugin can be cleaned otherwise just let the mods be.

 

Okay I think that is all I can tell. I might have forgot somethings, but with this long post you should handle yourself quite nicely

 

CHEERS! :thumbsup:

[KimberJ]

Yah sure, but in this case the OP is having a problem with wonky lost texture maps while in game. It's at a point where it's dead now. Where in the post does it say how to fix Black/Pink texture glitches. One problem at a time yo. The OP doesn't speak English natively. But if She/he un-installs that post might help. Gota stay on topic though, read the stuff being said, an then post, what you did is a homemade install guide. Yah I see good work you did, but how long have you been modding beth games? Cause you got a real once sided view about the whole thing. You know speaking from the perspective I have of 6 years creating content for beth games, an very little learning the new SDK for Skyrim. You know use the post, but prolly see if it's needed first, otherwise it's just spam as it's seen here. You know a tool for every problem, but you at least gota acknowledge the problem an conversation before your post. I don't know if it will help u or not, but this post is prolly dead until the OP comes back. Cool pics :D