New distribution permissions options for all files

[MrFlesh]

I'm not causing trouble in any sense. I have no intention of using anyones mods against their wishes, but I'm certainly not going to back up a stance that they are entitled to anything outside the good graces of others.

 

What I'm doing is offering an articulated counter point which not one person in this comment string has been able to refute. If I seem mildly irate it is because people are piling on me while side stepping the valid points I bring up. People seem upset with me because I am telling them something they don't want to hear, no matter how true it is.

 

I'm not surprised you won't give me an example......why start bringing something to the table now.

 

As for the Dark One, I think he is making a grave mistake policing any type of usage. I think he should leave it up to the modders to police each other and let the community handle the thief.

 

One of the reasons he can get out of liability on the real IP infringement on this site is because he doesn't monitor what is uploaded and downloaded. Once he starts monitoring one thing he then becomes liable for all things. This is how ISPs get out of getting in trouble for people downloading movie torrents. He should be totally hands off. It only takes one email to the right people that there is a site out there that lets you simulate sex between jessica alba and a predator.

 

It would be disingenuous of him to police the "piracy" of mods without checking the mods themselves to see if they were created with pirated software or used licensed animations, textures, sounds, music, etc.

 

I'm currently working on my first oblivion mod and I'm doing so with it completely free for everyone to use as they wish. If I didn't want it to be ripped off I wouldn't release it to the public. I'm certainly not going to post it on a site that will host and advertise it for free and then *censored* to them how they didn't protect what I voluntarily put in a public space.

 

@surenas: What you call maneuvering I call explaining myself in a different way in the hopes of it sinking in with someone.

 

@zaldir: There is no difference between commercial and noncommercial use. I couldn't distribute my version of the mustang for free either. As for a noncommercial use, if it has no registered copywrite or patent it has virtually no protections. I think you are thinking of fair use, but that mostly applies to education and only a single instance of a copy.

[Zaldir]

Okay, you are going to release something that is free for anyone to use, well that is the way I do it as well, but that is not the problem here at all.

 

The problem has never been about people using content that actually is stated to be free of use, but about people using content where the author has stated that no one can use it in their own (released) mods.

 

When people make something, and clearly state that no one can reuse it, then people should respect their wishes, and steer clear of using that content.

 

I stand in the middle of this discussion,

Being a modder myself, I am pro Modder's Rights, But when a modder doesn't give any guidelines to permissions, and disappears for a set amount of time, I am pro being able to use their resources. Not copying everything, but perhaps borrowing one model from the mod - Given the original author gets credit for it.

 

I did this with the mod "Delivery Job" - Manargo, the author of the mod had been away for 2 years, so I picked up his work, and completed his mod. (Of course, I listed him as author, so it may be a little different from some other cases.)

Edited November 14, 2010 by Zaldiir

[bben46]

@mrflesh:

I find it ironic that someone who has NO mods posted on any Nexus site feels they must tell those who do what the rules should be. And tells the staff how they should be interpreting those rules. Then calling their demands 'opinion'. When you insist something is wrong and should be fixed it is a demand and not an opinion.

 

For some reason you seem to be the only one who holds this particular 'opinion' (herein defined as your interpretation of 'our' rules). Normally when one finds oneself in a minority of one in a forum that is read by hundreds of members, it's time to reconsider that 'opinion'.

 

Here are the facts:

We have not changed our rules.

We have not changed our policy (how we interpret and enforce those rules)

 

What Dark0ne did was expand his explanation because of the sheer number of copy/paste so called mods (ports) from FO3 to FONV that were being done by people who did not understand the difference between making a mod and copying someone elses work. (AKA plagiarism)

 

Now, as a non mod author, How are you hurt by this non change?

 

You are welcome to your opinion. Just don't demand that it should be our policy and that we should change our policy because you don't like it as that could be interpreted as trolling.

 

This horse is long dead. Continuing to beat on it just reinforces other people's opinion that you are arguing just for the sake of arguing.