master23roks Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 hey all! new here, i have a prob. the NPCs in the cities no longer appear much in the cities themselves i.e market district in IC, in the district i no longer see many of the npcs which previously were up and walking from morning to evening. now the market district just has guards and some civilian npcs (about 2-3) whereas before there were up to 10 npcs.. also with regards to this, in Leyawiin im missing "eitar", in the shop "dividing line" where before he was always there during daytime, this is also true in terms of the npcs which are supposed to be present in the leyawiin streets but now are gone. so if anyone knows about this problem and might be of help, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodreaper Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Unless you provide some kind of list of the mods you're using we can't really help you, as the problem sounds almost 100% mod related. I would check out any major overhaul mods, or stuff that changes npc routines as well as idle animations and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master23roks Posted October 31, 2010 Author Share Posted October 31, 2010 ok here's my modlist, if you see any probs with this, need help thanks! Oblivion.esmCobl Main.esmOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esmTamrielTravellers.esmQarls_Harvest.esmCM Partners.esmbookplacing.esmMD_Saddle_Master.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espOblivion Citadel Door Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espKnights.espDLCFrostcrag.espDLCOrrery.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCVileLair.espDLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCThievesDen.espDLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espDLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.espDLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.espDLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.espDLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.espDLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.espDLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.espDLCFrostcrag_MysticEmporiumPatch.espDLCHorseArmor.espCompatibility Patch - DLCHorseArmor.espVanityCameraSmoother.espgardening.esproad+bridges.espNRB4 Standard Road Record.espQTdof.espImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Arboretum.espImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Waterfront.espImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Temple.espImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Arena.espImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Prison.espImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Talos Plaza.espImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Market.espImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Green Emperor Way.espImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Elven Gardens.espImpeREAL City Unique Districts - The Arcane University.espCobl Glue.espCobl Si.espOOO 1.32-Cobl.espCobl Tweaks.espSalmo the Baker, Cobl.espQarls_Harvest.espLiving Economy.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espactors_in_charge.espActorsInMadness.espLoadingScreens.espLoadingScreens-OOO.espCutthroat Merchants.espLiving Economy - Items.espTamrielTravellers.espShiveringIsleTravellers.espShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.espTamrielTravellersFactionAll.espTamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esphilarity_121.espDecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.espSamVimes's Feint Death.espRenGuardOverhaul.espThieves Arsenal.espLTDVampireOverhaul.espStealthOverhaul.espza_bankmod.espOOO-Level_Stock.espOOO-Map_Markers_Stock.espOOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.espOOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.espOOO-No_Guild_Ownership.espOOO-Water_Weeds.espEnchantmentRestore.espEnchantmentRestore_Wells.espScriptIcon_Replacer.espWCGL - Wilderness Creatures 1.1.espP1DanywhereSittable.espMore_Arrows_Recovered-2169.espEVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.espEVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.espEVE_KhajiitFix.espEVE_KnightsoftheNine.espAbriael_Human.espPackhorses v1.esp300_Combat Sounds.espMaleBodyReplacerV4.espHarvest [Flora].espHarvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.espExterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 CT.espDungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 CT.esp'Eagle Eye' Realistic Archery v1.0 Fixed.espRealisticForceMedium.espRealisticMagicForceMedium.espbtgBloodFix.espBlood Potions for Vampires.espCheydinhal Petshop.espVaultsofCyrodiil.espApachii_Goddess_Store.espAdult_BookStore.espWHOOSH.espGrabLiveNPC_OBSE.esp77_Umpa_RadioFx.esp77_Umpa_Animation.espTelekinetic Mastery.espLegendary Abilities-Fortify Health MOJ.espSetBody.espJQ-Fighters_Guild_United.espRealSwords - Redguard LO-NPC.espBob's Armory Oblivion.espShaiyaOutfit.espAdonnays Classical Weaponry.espAdonnays Elven Weaponry.espEthereal - Armor Imperial Legion Edition.espHelmetFOV.espDude Wheres My Horse.espLockpickMold.espDays&Months.espChaseCameraMod.espShort Grass V3.espCrowded Roads.espNatural_Water_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Weather_HDR_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.espNatural_Vegetation_200%_by_Max_Tael.espoc_darker_nights.espCities Alive At Night.espmoDem's City Life.esp_Ren_BeautyPack_full.espBetter Looking Redguards.espBetter Looking Wood Elves Vanilla.espBeautiful_Women_NiceOnly.espHandsome_Gents_SI.espBeautiful_Women_SI.espBeautiful_Women_DB_Addon.espHandsome_Gents_Bonus.espBeautiful_Women_NotSoNice_Bonus.espHandsome_Gents_Vampires_50.espBeautiful_Women_Vampires_50.espKT_CustomRaceFix.espP1DseeYouSleep.espP1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.espIlluminationWithin.espLet There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.espLet There Be Darkness - Knights.espLet There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.espMD Saddlebags v3.0.espCM Partners.espCM Partners Extra NPCs.espCM Partners More NPCs NE.espCM Partners NPC NE.espCM Partners NPC.espDAJackSparrow.espFineWeapons for OOO.espRustyItems for OOO.espVanilla_Oblivion_Skill_Rates-6548.espStreamline 3.1.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodreaper Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Hmm..Try to mess arround with the Crowded Roads and moDem's City Life. First, use your OBMM and set them to load LAST on the list...if not disable them and see if you notice and diference. It would be a good ideea to download BOSS and use it to optimize the mod load order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonElf Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 ImpeREAL City Unique Districts - Market.esp This could be bugged, try turn this off and then launch or there is the harder way of turning off all, then one by one testing them to see if they do the problem you have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
master23roks Posted November 1, 2010 Author Share Posted November 1, 2010 it seems to be working now thanks all! although im not sure about this but in the "Dividing Line" weapons and armor shop in Leyawiin the guy seems to be selling no armor at all. instead, he sells weapons and misc items such as dwemer scrap metal, guar hide, and netch leather - are these items supposed to be in oblivion or not? because im pretty much annoyed at not seeing him selling armor and only these misc stuff. btw if ever these items (guar hides, dwemer scrap metal) are a part of the game, what are they supposed to be for? thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackerrR Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Just a tip! ImpeReal City and mods that add more NPCs can 'overwhelm' RAM making NPCs just standing around or missing. Oblivion's system engine seems to have a limit concerning NPCs, but I don't know what kind of limit. They have AI-s which they use ALL THE TIME, even if they're too far away from you, and engine just breaks. I think you should know that :happy: sorry for bad English... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodreaper Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 it seems to be working now thanks all! although im not sure about this but in the "Dividing Line" weapons and armor shop in Leyawiin the guy seems to be selling no armor at all. instead, he sells weapons and misc items such as dwemer scrap metal, guar hide, and netch leather - are these items supposed to be in oblivion or not? because im pretty much annoyed at not seeing him selling armor and only these misc stuff. btw if ever these items (guar hides, dwemer scrap metal) are a part of the game, what are they supposed to be for? thanks! Dwemer scrap metal? I dont think that's part of the original game. However im pretty sure there was a alchemical ingredients mod adding those in game....I cant tell by the names in your list, but if you have something similar, which adds additional ingredients try to disable the mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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