MrHildebrand Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 So I understand it is the process that one takes to achieve CHIM. However I'm a bit lost in what the Psijic Endeavor actually entails. Can it be summed up to something like a pilgrimage or a form of meditation? The only thing I've ever found on it, is that it is some sort of process one must take to achieve CHIM but without giving any context as to what that process is. Anyone have any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Ok... Phew... Asking the hard questions... The Psijic Endeavor is a means of attaining CHIM. In essence, it is an introspective journey of the self, and a means of realising Love; IE a recognition and absolute acceptance of who you are alongside the realisation that everyone is one. While it is said to have been laid out by Veloth, who was guided by Mephala, Boethia, Azura, Trinimac and Lorkhan, it has no set steps, but is an entirely individual journey. However, it is a lesson on HOW you should go about with that self exploration... Namely in that you should know yourself before you try to k.ow others. This is because, if you learn the nature of the Tower before you know Love (again not love, but Love, which is basically an expression of self identity and will) you almost always Zero Sum. In fact, everyone who has walked the Psijic Path backwards has Zero Summed... That probably didn't help any, did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHildebrand Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 It was alot more help than what I've been digging up. So let me see if I can nutshell what you said. The journey itself is basically coming to accept who you are, and how you travel that path. You need to learn to accept yourself before you can begin to understand others. Learning the nature of the Tower before this journey is complete however leads to zero summing out of existence.Did I get that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Pretty much. As i understand it anyway. The end goal is CHIM. The Endeavor is just the safest way of going about it. It has no set steps, like say, How to build a Bird House, but instead gives you an order in which certain goals should be completed. Edited February 16, 2015 by Lachdonin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHildebrand Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 Interesting, but one last tough question yet remains. "How one travels that path". It seems rather vague. I really don't even know how to begin approaching a way to ask that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 There IS a reason only one person has ever completed the Endeavor. How one travels it is entirely individual, and it is a personal journey exploring the self, the world, and the nature of the divine. Vivec tried to drop hints in his Sermons, to make others think, but it's not something you can teach. Everyone is, inherently, 'on the path', and this was Lorkhan's plan all along, but realising that and figuring out which way to go are near impossible, particularly when you have mundane concerns to worry about. Vkvec only found his way AFTER becomming Vehk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHildebrand Posted February 16, 2015 Author Share Posted February 16, 2015 (edited) Very interesting. Ironically it tends to make all those threads about morality within the game rather pointless. No one it right, no one is wrong, no one is good and no one is evil. All is one and one is all.Thanks for your insight, it's defiantly given me some food for thought. Edited February 16, 2015 by MrHildebrand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Not a problem. And yeah, morality in TES is grey, at best. There is no right or wrong, good or evil. Even Molag Bal isn't a 'bad guy', he's just a manifestation of a not too pleasant concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomriis Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Ha ha Lachdonin youre a wanderin Tes Lexicon. If who wants to be a millionaire was only about Tes lore you would certainly win :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lachdonin Posted February 16, 2015 Share Posted February 16, 2015 Ha ha Lachdonin youre a wanderin Tes Lexicon. If who wants to be a millionaire was only about Tes lore you would certainly win :laugh:Hah, you should speak to MaleyoRan (probably spellbound my that wrong) Mr.Flippers and FireIceWarden.They put me to shame. In fact, Warden figured out the Amaranth and how the dream-cycle works... That takes skill. Or madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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