Oblivion Crashes on Fast Travel Exterior Load

[AH1]

Hello, thanks for taking a few moments to consider my problem.

 

Oblivion is crashing for me when I try to fast travel away from my current location. It seems as long as I don't try to leave the cell that I'm in that I can do just about anything I want, but the moment I go anywhere else, it crashes. The crash is odd. It loads perfectly fine, but then I can literally count down from three and have the game crash. In those three seconds or so before the crash, the game behaves normally. If there is an enemy there, it will attack me no problem. There are no graphical oddities, no sound oddities, no script oddities. Nothing you'd expect to precede a crash or indicate something like a corrupted file or script.

 

I have about 40 hours in here, and I don't want to have to reinstall everything. The crash is happening in both the autosave and the quicksave, including the restored backups.

 

My computer is far past the recommended specs.

Intel Wolfdale 3.2ghz Core 2 Duo

4.00GB RAM

ATI HD4850 516MB Graphics

 

Here is my mod load order, I've run this through BOSS, updated my bashed patch, and all that good stuff, and still no dice. In fact, I've even tried disabling mods and it still won't work. The last mod I installed before this nonsense started was the Stylish Jump mod and the Pretty Woman animation mod. My gut is telling me those are causing it, but they run fine before the crash, and the crash occurs even when they are disabled.:

Oblivion.esm

All Natural Base.esm

MD_Saddle_Master.esm

Harvest[Containers].esm

Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esm

Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esm

Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

EyeCandy - Content.esm

Independent High Elf Body (Replace)(v1.1).esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

All Natural - Real Lights.esp

All Natural.esp

All Natural - SI.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp

Underwater.esp

Storms & Sound.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp

Oblivion Cats v0.22b.esp

P1DseeYouSleep.esp

Harvest[Containers] - SI - Ore Respawn.esp

Harvest[Containers] - Vanilla - Ore Respawn.esp

Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esp

Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp

Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

EyeCandy Compilation.esp

HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp

Cryos Ordinator Lite.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp

KDCirclets.esp

KDClothCirclets.esp

R18PN - Lingeries.esp

Slof's Horses HA Essential.esp

MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp

Legion's Horses Armored With Slof's Horse Bases.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

24HrArenaAliveV2.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

AutoBookPlacer.esp

NPC Static Level.esp

Sexy Dark Seducer & Golden Saint Armour.esp

VisiblyUnlimited.esp

Unlimited Amulets and Rings - Shivering Isles.esp

MidasSpells.esp

No psychic guards v1.2.esp

77_Umpa_Sexy_walk.esp

EyelashesVannilaRaces.esp

MergedMouth.esp

ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackFull.esp

Beautiful People.esp

Get Wet - just droplets.esp

Get Wet Dark.esp

Real Lava 1.3.esp

Shining Creatures.esp

Shining Creatures_DLCFrostcrag.esp

Helmet Toggle.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

show_amulets.esp

RealBanditsAndHighwaymen.esp

Playable Legion Palace Armor.exe.esp

Unequip Broken Armor.esp

xulSnowdale.esp

Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp

Immersive Interiors.esp

Independent High Elf Body (Replace)(v1.1).esp

BBBRoseoftheGuard.esp

rwr mannequins.esp

Female Legion and Guard Armors.esp

Specialanims.esp

 

 

EDIT:

 

Okay, it is definitely something with the quicksave and autosave. When I go back to an older save game from 20 hours ago, even with all the same mods loaded, there doesn't seem to be a problem. The obvious problem being, of course, that it is 20 hours ago and that is a lot of time and redoing of quests that I'd rather not have to be subjected to.

 

Any idea how to fix a save game?

[Smooth613]

Disable autosave and don't use quicksave. Both are known to become corrupt due to the way those saves work. They keep saving over top of the old information each time, never creating a new file. I suggest you manually save from the menu each time. This creates a new save file every time. You can also use the Streamsave feature of Streamline.

[David Brasher]

I have more than a dozen characters and multiple saves for each, but one of them has a problem sort of like yours. The game will CTD 100% of the time if I give the command to fast travel. This character can walk wherever he wants to all over the whole land, and complete quests, but no fast traveling. None of my other characters have this problem, so I think all the save-games for that character are damaged. You might start a new character or test one of your other characters to see if the problem is unique to that one particular character. If you have an old savegame for that character that is days or weeks old, you might try that too. Losing some days of play time might be better than losing the entire character.

[AH1]

I have more than a dozen characters and multiple saves for each, but one of them has a problem sort of like yours. The game will CTD 100% of the time if I give the command to fast travel. This character can walk wherever he wants to all over the whole land, and complete quests, but no fast traveling. None of my other characters have this problem, so I think all the save-games for that character are damaged. You might start a new character or test one of your other characters to see if the problem is unique to that one particular character. If you have an old savegame for that character that is days or weeks old, you might try that too. Losing some days of play time might be better than losing the entire character.

 

Yeah, that's a good suggestion, but sadly it isn't the case. Whenever I leave the cell the game loaded from (in this case, the Imperial City), it crashes. Doesn't matter if I'm on foot, or fast traveling.

 

So, I loaded my other saved game that wasn't crashing, and so far, no problems. I managed to make up the lost time by using the console to "movetoqt" instead of hoofing it to get to all those quests again. 20 hours of play time was reduced to about 2 doing that. No big deal.

 

I think I know what happened. I noticed that ALL (and I mean every last one) of my .esp and .esm files had their dates changed to last modified on "1/1/2000". I had forgotten this, until just now, but WyreBash crashed in the middle of rebuilding a bashed patch. I'm willing to bet that it corrupted a mod or two, and my save when this happened. I noticed a few of my mods disappeared entirely, too. Once I reinstalled them, fixed the missing textures, etc, everything worked fine again.

 

Talk about an odd problem. It is like my Oblivion game got hit by Y2K ten years later. WyreBash is usually a champ when it comes to running stable too. Oh well, flukes happen. Maybe someone else can benefit from this problem I had in the future.

[RaoulBogers]

one hint - if you finished the mainquest of oblivion - theres an error with the Bruma-statue - which is known to cause this CTD while changing the worldspace - there are diverse fixes for this problem at the nexus...

 

- to the year 2000-date, AFAIK Wrye Bash is using this to solve issues with the load order or to fix some load-trouble, its not a bug, its a feature, leave it as it is

 

- i dont use Wrye bash anymore, while IMHO it causes my game to be unplayable, dont know what this program has done, but im losing the whole setup, maybe some errors with python-scripts had done something wrong :(

[Smooth613]

Indeed the dates are not a problem. It's how Wrye Bash and BOSS handle your Load Order. If you'll notice each file in your LO will be exactly 1 minute difference after you run BOSS. LO is determined by the oldest date/time being the first file loaded, then as you increase time/date you progress down your LO.

[AH1]

Well after about four hours of playtime, it seems the bug is starting to creep up again. This time I'm not sure why. I haven't installed any mods at all. I haven't modified a single file. Literally, I've done nothing to the game but play it. I even checked for save game bloat, and that is not a problem.

 

The good news is, I've been creating new save files every five to ten minutes now, so I'm able to go back if necessary to hopefully work around it.

 

I'm starting to think this may just be a bug within Oblivion and not something I'm causing.

 

Thoughts?

[AH1]

Sorry for the double post, but since it's been a day, an edit would be pointless.

 

I'm still having this problem. Once again it is to the point where I can't do anything because it crashes every few seconds (literally seconds). I disabled autosave, and haven't been quick saving, so I have a plethora of saves now, but most of them end up with this same problem. This is quite frustrating. I've even tried disabling, reinstalling, and just not using various mods. I also tried downgrading my OBSE since the problem started after I installed the newest version, thinking maybe that was the problem, but alas it continues.

 

I ran ABomb on WyreBash, and double checked to see if there was game bloat (there isn't). Those have failed. I even disabled Unique Landscapes, because I've been doing research and it seems some people have problems there, but the game simply failed to load at all when I did that.

 

One idea I'm considering is that perhaps I just have too many mods loaded. But seeing as disabling them didn't fix anything, I doubt that is the issue. Nevertheless, I'm toying with the idea of trying to merge the mergable ones into one bashed patch, but I don't want to bother if it won't do anything.

 

I could really use some advice on this one from someone who knows what they are talking about, because I clearly have no idea what to do.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

EDIT:

 

I'm updating this post so others who might have a similar problem can possible work through it also.

 

First I updated my bashed patch to cut down on the amount of .ESPs the game had to load when I fast traveled.

 

Next I looked at the specific areas that were causing me to crash, and investigated any mods that were active in those areas. This was more or less trial and error.

 

I disabled those mods, once again, trial and error.

 

Then, I fast traveled away from the site of the crash AS SOON AS the game loaded the save. Then I walked around for a few minutes to ensure that the crash wasn't occurring. When it did not occur, I fast traveled back to the location of the crash to test it. It did not crash.

 

I made a new save, exited the game, and repeated the process. Still no crash.

 

This is an ongoing process. I have eliminated the 3-second crash, but the game is still crashing intermittently. More so than it should. As I continue to try to figure out what is going on here, I will update this again. I hope my trial and error can help someone else in the future.

 

For the record, the mod that I disabled was the Dark Forest aspect of Unique Landscapes. I've done some digging online, and while there are many suggestions, one thing I kept seeing was that Unique Landscapes, and especially Dark Forest, were causing people problems. Hopefully, I'll continue to figure this out and update this if I learn anything else.

Edited November 6, 2010 by AH1

[Hickory]

Can you post a revised mod list, via Wrye Bash please? Please include the ["spoiler"]["code"]["/spoiler"]["/code"] parts without the quotes.

[AH1]

Can you post a revised mod list, via Wrye Bash please? Please include the ["spoiler"]["code"]["/spoiler"]["/code"] parts without the quotes.

 

Certainly.

 

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]
02  MD_Saddle_Master.esm
03  Harvest[Containers].esm
04  Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esm
05  Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esm
06  Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esm
07  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
08  EyeCandy - Content.esm
09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.2]
0A  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]
0B  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0C  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0D  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
0E  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]
0F  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]
10  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]
11  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
++  Underwater.esp
12  Storms & Sound.esp
13  WindowLightingSystem.esp
14  AliveWaters.esp
15  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
16  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
17  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
18  Luchaire's Neck Seam Concealer.esp
19  Oblivion Cats v0.22b.esp
1A  P1DseeYouSleep.esp
++  Harvest[Containers] - SI - Ore Respawn.esp
++  Harvest[Containers] - Vanilla - Ore Respawn.esp
++  Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esp
++  Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp
++  Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esp
1B  DLCHorseArmor.esp
1C  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
1D  DLCOrrery.esp
1E  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
1F  DLCVileLair.esp
20  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
21  P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp
22  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
23  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
24  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
25  EyeCandy Compilation.esp
++  HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp
26  Cryos Ordinator Lite.esp
27  CapesandCloaks.esp
28  KDCirclets.esp
29  KDClothCirclets.esp
2A  R18PN - Lingeries.esp
2B  Slof's Horses Base.esp
2C  Slof's Horses HA Essential.esp
2D  MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp
++  Legion's Horses Armored With Slof's Horse Bases.esp
2E  DLCThievesDen.esp
2F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
30  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
31  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
32  24HrArenaAliveV2.esp
33  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
34  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
35  DLCFrostcrag.esp
36  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
37  Knights.esp
38  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
39  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
3A  xulTheHeath.esp
3B  XulEntiusGorge.esp
3C  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
3D  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
3E  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
3F  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
40  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
41  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
42  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]
43  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
44  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
45  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
46  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
47  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
48  xulPantherRiver.esp
49  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
4A  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]
4B  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]
4C  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
4D  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
4E  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
4F  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
50  AutoBookPlacer.esp  [Version 3.02]
++  NPC Static Level.esp
++  Sexy Dark Seducer & Golden Saint Armour.esp
51  VisiblyUnlimited.esp
++  Unlimited Amulets and Rings - Shivering Isles.esp
52  MidasSpells.esp
53  No psychic guards v1.2.esp
++  77_Umpa_Sexy_walk.esp
++  EyelashesVannilaRaces.esp
++  MergedMouth.esp
54  ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackFull.esp
55  Beautiful People.esp
56  Get Wet - just droplets.esp
57  Get Wet Dark.esp
++  Real Lava 1.3.esp
58  Shining Creatures.esp  [Version 1.2]
++  Shining Creatures_DLCFrostcrag.esp
59  Helmet Toggle.esp
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.0]
5A  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
5B  show_amulets.esp
5C  RealBanditsAndHighwaymen.esp
5D  Playable Legion Palace Armor.exe.esp
5E  Unequip Broken Armor.esp
5F  BBBRoseoftheGuard.esp
60  rwr mannequins.esp
61  Specialanims.esp
62  Female Legion and Guard Armors.esp
63  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]
64  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]
65  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]