TheUnknownX Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) I visited statesman hotel before but forgot to get something for Sydney. Now, entering the statesman hotel or other buildings near the area, or trying to save near the area causes the game to crash. I had similiar problems in some other areas before that disappeared later. I'm trying to mess with the loads to figure this out but... Any help is appreciated. Edit: Now it seems to only crash when I enter the statesman hotel. Removing Updated Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch or FWE seems to help. So they conflict somehow and the compatibility patch doesn't seem to help. Fallout3.esm=1Anchorage.esm=1ThePitt.esm=1BrokenSteel.esm=1PointLookout.esm=1Zeta.esm=1Lings.esm=1LingsDLC.esm=1Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm=1DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm=1Vault 101 Revisited.esm=1TheInstitute.esm=1CRAFT.esm=1CALIBR.esm=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm=1Mart's Mutant Mod.esm=1Alton, IL.esm=1WastelandGuards01.esm=1Sydney Follower.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp=1FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp=1WeaponModKits.esp=1WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp=1WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp=1WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp=1WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp=1WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp=1WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp=1UUF3P - FWE Patch.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp=1Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp=1CRAFT - Activation Perk.esp=1Stealthboy Recon Armor - CRAFT.esp=1AltonAddon.esp=1CALIBRxMerchant.esp=101AtM - Firefly Ranch.esp=1FO3_WRP.esp=1dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1UPP - Quest Perks.esp=1UPP - Experience Perks.esp=1UPP - Pack 1.esp=1UPP - Pack 2.esp=1JHBSydneyUpdate.esp=1test.esp=1 (edits one armor stats)Sydney Follower - Load Order Fix.esp=1MERGEDPATCH.esp=1 Edited February 17, 2015 by TheUnknownX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Check your FWE Alternate Travel, I believe it has a heading of .esm but a file extension of .esp. I don't use MMM, but logic would dictate that you only need the MMM-FWE+DLCs patch, not both of the FWE patches. I use FWE and about 100 more mods and never had a problem at the Statesman Hotel, so I doubt it is FWE alone that is causing the problem. Are you using the newest Updated Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUnknownX Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) Everything should be the newest versions, I installed the game like a week or two ago. The problem existed before any MMM.FWE patches. Also, FWE+DLC patch is about 15kb while the non dlc is 205kb. I temporarily removed the patch to enter the hotel but I'm afraid the problems will randomly continue elsewhere. Edit: The whole area around Statesman hotel used to cause crashes. The hospital, friendship heights etc. If I travel there, then enter ANY building or try to save, crash. After a while, only going inside the hotel caused a crash. I don't know if it was because I messed with the load order or because time was spent and something changed. Earlier, I had an issue between bigtown and arefu, near a land bridge with raiders. There was this ruined building with raiders. Aproaching it caused a crash. Much later, it didn't crash. The same happened with Meresti trainyard. I'm wondering if it could have something to do with a random encounter, an object worn/held by someone. When I originally installed the mods, I mostly followed some mod list that recommended using nexus mod manager for most mods. However, it failed to install some files so I had to manually install them. Random note: As I disabled some mods, suddenly sydney follower was completely naked. No underwear. What the? I didn't disable anything that should touch her or her items. Also, where did the naked body come from? I didn't have custom sydney makeover at that time (and thus, no Lings). I'm quite sure I didn't download any nudity mods. I also lost Reservists rifle much earlier, it just disappeared and never came back even though I didn't save at all and I returned load order to what it was before. Edited February 17, 2015 by TheUnknownX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M48A5 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 The name of the mod is "Updated Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch", http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/19122/? Have you tried to enter the problem areas without any mods? If you do not have a problem in a known problem area with mods, make a save and exit the game. Add your mod groups one at a time (all FWE, all MMM, etc) until the problem happens again. This will let you know which group of mods is causing the problem and then you can work on eliminating the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUnknownX Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 The problem areas are GONE, other than the statesman hotel. Actually, it might be gone too, haven't tried for a while. Also, as I said, unless something went wrong with the forum post edit, disabling EITHER the unofficial patch OR FWE fixes the problem. Disabling MMM does not help. This leads me to believe that they are somehow conflicting. I believe I already said this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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