Random crash when loading new areas

[pizzapicante27]

Hello, first time posting so I dont know if Im doing it right or if someone can help me, but Ive been having these random crashes ("Oblivion has stopped working" message) either when an area is loading (interior or exterior) or when saving (Im using streamliner 3.1 and thats the weird thing it sometimes crashes while doinf the Streamsave). I havent figured which mod might cause it if at all.

The crashes are seemingly at random with no set number of areas that might load, no set time and no specific areas in which it is more likely to occur, though except for one time, always occuring when loading an area (interior or exterior)

Also of note, when I tried to delete the Oblivion.ini I couldnt as the game would crash when loading the game ("Oblivion has stopped working" message) with the new one, it would be fine with the old one.

Im using OBSE up to date, a few pluggins for it (elly's, Blockhead, streamline), Oblivion Reloaded (http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/45749/?), no ENB and honeslty have no idea, so...help?


Active Mod Files:

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
02  TESA Clutter.esm  [Version 5]
03  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]
04  RealisticLeveling.esm
05  Knights - Revelation.esm
06  Jog_X_Mod.esm
07  Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm  [Version 3.0b]
08  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
09  CM Partners.esm
0A  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]
0B  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.5.3]
0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.2]
++  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
0D  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0E  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.6]
0F  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
10  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]
11  DLCThievesDen.esp
12  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.13]
13  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.13]
14  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
15  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
16  DLCVileLair.esp
17  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]
18  DLCHorseArmor.esp
19  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
1A  DLCOrrery.esp
1B  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
1C  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
1D  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp  [Version 3.0]
++  Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp
1E  DLCFrostcrag.esp
1F  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
20  DLCFrostcragReborn.esp  [Version 1.4.7]
21  Knights.esp
22  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.6]
23  OblivionReloaded.esp
24  TESA Clutter Test Cell.esp  [Version 5]
25  TamrielTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]
26  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]
27  ScriptEffectSubduer.esp
28  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]
29  Better Cities .esp
2A  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]
2B  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 6.3]
2C  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.5.3]
2D  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
2E  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
2F  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
30  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
31  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
32  Better Dungeons.esp
33  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
34  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
35  ReclaimSancreTor.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
36  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
37  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
38  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
39  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]
3A  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
3B  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
3C  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
3D  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
3E  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
3F  HoarfrostCastle.esp
40  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
41  MTCExpandedVillages.esp
42  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
43  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.5.6]
44  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
45  Hemingweys Capes Improved.esp  [Version 3.0b]
46  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
47  Rathunas01.esp
48  The Lost Spires.esp
49  xulTheHeath.esp
++  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 5.5.0]
4A  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
4B  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.35]
4C  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.35]
4D  road+bridges.esp  [Version 3.0]
++  Hemingweys Capes for NRB.esp  [Version 3.0b]
4E  bartholm.esp
4F  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
50  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
51  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
52  FrostcragRebornCobl.esp
53  Creature Diversity.esp
54  Streamline 3.1.esp
55  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
56  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.35]
57  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
58  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
59  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]
5A  AliveWaters.esp
5B  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
5C  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
5D  Sutch Village.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
5E  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
5F  Knights - Revelation.esp
60  xulPantherRiver.esp
61  Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 5.5.2]
62  BHC_Expanded.esp  [Version 1.2]
63  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]
64  ICEXPAND.esp  [Version 5.5.0]
++  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3]
65  VaultsofCyrodiil.esp  [Version 5.5.0]
66  Malevolent.esp
67  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 1.4]
68  CurseOfHircine.esp
69  Extended Imperial City Version 1.0.esp
6A  TOTF.esp
6B  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp  [Version 5.5.0]
++  LostCoast + SutchVillage Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
6C  Alternative Beginnings.esp  [Version 1.4.3]
6D  Frostcrag Village.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
++  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp  [Version 2.0]
6E  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.35]
6F  HoarfrostCastle-LushWoodlands patch.esp
70  EC Chambers 1.1.esp  [Version 1.0]
71  thievery.esp
72  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]
73  Immersive Interiors - Landscape Addon.esp
74  AutoBookPlacer.esp  [Version 3.02]
75  Reznod_Mannequin.esp
76  LTDVampireOverhaul.esp
77  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
++  Grass Overhaul.esp
78  Crowded Cities 15.esp
++  Better Cities - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp  [Version 5.5.0]
79  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 5.5.0]
7A  CM Partners.esp
7B  Curse of Hircine - Werewolf Hunters.esp
7C  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 5.5.0]
7D  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 3.1]
7E  CM Partners More NPCs.esp
7F  Populated Prisons.esp  [Version 1.2]
80  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
81  TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
++  DLCFrostcrag Reborn - Frostcrag Village Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.7]
++  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 5.3.0]
82  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp  [Version 5.5.0]
83  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 1.3]
84  BrumaMGRestored.esp
++  Better Cities - All Natural.esp  [Version 5.5.0]
++  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 5.3.0]
++  MTCVillages-LostSpiresPatch.esp
85  Better Cities - Thievery.esp  [Version 5.5.0]
86  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
87  CurseofHircine-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
88  BrumaMGRestored-Frostcrag.esp
++  Kvatch Rebuilt + Frostcrag Reborn De-Isolated Teleport Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
++  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
++  Kvatch Rebuilt + Frostcrag Spire Teleport Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
++  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Panther River patch.esp  [Version 1.4]
89  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
++  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
8A  ImprovedSigns.esp
8B  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.5.3]
++  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 5.5.1a]
8C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
8D  Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp  [Version 4.4.1]

[ZZZ02]

I had a similar issue one of the reasons why I haven't played in months, for some reason installing "oblivion reloaded" fixed it almost completely you should try it just remember to edit the inis.

[pizzapicante27]

No as I said in the description I DO have Oblivion Reloaded installed so I dont think thats it.

[astrob0y]

Your list dosent look like what Boss wants it to be.

Maybe try to update BOSS masterlist (it has just recently been updated) and then run a trial run to see if there is something you should do.

What I can see is that OCO 2 is to high up. Maybe try to put all the better cities files as low as possible, also OR should be lower according to boss.

Crowded cities 15 toghter with Better cities makes my game ctd rather soon, but that is my game.

[pizzapicante27]

//astrob0y I use LOOT the successor of BOSS so I dont think order is it, Crowded cities might be, but Id need a mod to replace it otherwise cities like Anvil look like ghost towns, does anyone have any recommendation?

[Striker879]

I've seen plenty of reports of problems when using LOOT to sort load order that went away when switching to BOSS. I've seen zero reports of problems when using BOSS to sort load order that went away when switching to LOOT.

[pizzapicante27]

But isnt BOSS's MAsterList uotdated by this point?

[Striker879]

Nope, BOSS Masterlist for Oblivion ... mhahn123 is on the job.

[pizzapicante27]

Well its not the load order, already changed to BOSS and rebuilt my Bash Patch and Im still getting the crashes

[pizzapicante27]

*bump