SkaSwag Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 (edited) PROBLEMMy game crashes whenever I leave Lakeview Manor. The game manages to squeeze in an autosave right before it crashes, which is the save I use to test where it crashes. I have also used a manual save to test the location of the crash. I've researched several things, from save bloat to mods spawning something that is missing a file. I couldn't find any solutions and decided to contact the kind souls of the community. PC SPECS-desktop-card: zotac GTX 970, 4GB VRAM-processor: Intel Core i5-3570 CPU @ 3.40GHz-RAM: 16GB-Hard drive free space: 1.19 TB free of 1.81 TB ADDITIONAL INFORMATION-game located in c:\games\steam\steamapps\common\skyrim-Skyrim V1.9.32.0.8, all official DLCs-SKSE (Skyrim Script Extender) V1.7.1-NMM (Nexus Mod Manager) V0.53.4-Using LOOT (Load Order Optimization Tool) V0.6.1 (see load order below)-TES5edit (The Elder Scrolls 5 Edit) V3.0.32, I have cleaned the DLCs, and I am missing no master files *I'd like to thank bben46 for the very helpful "How to ask for help" guide, as well as the guide on posting a LOOT log. I will be grateful for any help, and will answer all questions to the best of my knowledge. LOOT LOAD ORDER REPORT Skyrim.esmCRC: C665FD56Update.esmCRC: 1FDAB215C.Location, Delev, Invent, RelevUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espCRC: 4A395AFAVersion: 2.0.5aC.Acoustic, C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.ImageSpace, C.Light, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, StatsDawnguard.esmCRC: 7A481404C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, SoundUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espCRC: A3FDFD8DVersion: 2.0.5C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, StatsHearthFires.esmCRC: F4DDC851C.Location, Graphics, InventUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espCRC: DF1E97DVersion: 2.0.5C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, Graphics, Invent, Names, SoundDragonborn.esmCRC: A46CA360C.Location, Graphics, Invent, NamesUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espCRC: FB2715ACVersion: 2.0.5C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, StatsClimatesOfTamriel.esmCRC: 918881A7Version: 3.1ApachiiHair.esmCRC: 783F7167Version: 1.4ApachiiHairMales.esmCRC: 60EC6077Version: 1.2DynamicLoot.esmCRC: 6744F3B7ApachiiHairFemales.esmCRC: 49FFE3B5Version: 1.4LeftHandRings.espCRC: D4E274C6Version: 1.4Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espCRC: 9229A0B4ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.espCRC: 9FFF2A85Version: 3.1AncientTonguesGreatSword.espCRC: FD7EE317Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.espCRC: 6D04DABCVersion: 1.8ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.espCRC: 6DEDE258Version: 3.1SmithingTree.espCRC: E132DE25DelevEyes of Aber.espCRC: ABB6C195draugrEnglish.espCRC: C32483DFMapseller Dawnguard.espCRC: 85F2D0E2HarvestOverhaulCreatures.espCRC: E867E51CVersion: 2.8.2AncientTonguesSword.espCRC: 79573950NoxWCC.espCRC: 691AFBB5dD - Enhanced Blood Main.espCRC: 674C05BCFasterArrows75.espCRC: FF93F7A4FloraRespawnFix.espCRC: A9C51344Improved Destruction Perks.espCRC: 37BFC46EImproved Master Spells.espCRC: 1AB0BEFFImproved Master Spells Except Firestorm.espCRC: C85E2366Brows.espCRC: AC68717AVersion: 30411proudspiremanortnf.espCRC: 31D3A78BBetterStaffofMagnus.espCRC: 9302F126LordOfWar_TW2.espCRC: 2F8D142AMB Glass Variants Lore.espCRC: A6C0975CDelev, RelevClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.espCRC: BDC66F4CVersion: 3.1-DynamicLoot_DG.espCRC: C38B385DCraftable Ebony Mail and Blade.espCRC: 20A4B4CACultistArmorCloth.espCRC: AF6A8A92Chesko_WearableLantern.espCRC: 1537EE33Improved Cloaks.espCRC: FC0CAFD6DA2 Bethany Robes.espCRC: 29A1A1C4HelmetToggle2.02b.espCRC: 2ED2B609Weightless Ingredients.espCRC: 4489E039VHTNF.espCRC: BA173289Frostmourne.espCRC: 5599D528towConversation.espCRC: 27711704FemaleWerewolf.espCRC: 78872373dD-No Spinning Death Animation.espCRC: BD9E96A1DeadlyDragons.espCRC: 295EE682Delev, RelevDifferently Ebony.espCRC: 4DEB61E7Basvanbeu MuscleTextureChanger with Navetsea set.espCRC: D7C0B922dD-Larger Splatter Size.espCRC: 6C2D97C4Immolate Flash Freeze Discharge.espCRC: 6162B061Dread Knight Weapon Set.espCRC: DEA1B5BFDynamicLoot_DB.espCRC: CC224619Convenient Horses.espCRC: A2C92D5CVersion: 14950Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.Beards.espCRC: 85B4CEFAVersion: 28363DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.espCRC: 6747C29ANote: Make sure you have not switched DoF off in your ini file. If you don't see any effect, open you Skyrimprefs.ini and look for "bDoDepthOfField". Make sure it is set to 1.Enchanting Freedom.espCRC: C1ED186FWarning: Contains 2 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.HearthFire Display Case Fix.espCRC: 2F134175dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espCRC: FB51E4FCMiraakEquimentBuff.espCRC: 89C11A6FFISS.espCRC: 589A93FBFS_UltimateAssortment.espCRC: DDBEC894Angelic_Demonic.espCRC: CE864C39TH3WICK3D1-HawkeMageArmor.espCRC: 675ED64EdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espCRC: 910FBBF3Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.hjerimtnf.espCRC: 5B490F4ASkyrim Immersive Creatures.espCRC: F68C9890Version: v6.5.2aDelev, RelevBetter Vampires.espCRC: C34D6885Note: Contains dirty edits: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.espCRC: AAEE23BFVLW_Hybrid.espCRC: A49BA65WestWindAssault.espCRC: 2745D735HarvestOverhaul.espCRC: 8FBB155EVersion: 2.8.2Immersive Weapons.espCRC: E41D31DDelev, RelevHSTNF.espCRC: 974DCDFCReanimate FX.espCRC: 4FA9556HoodlessDragonpriestMasksPlus1_0.espCRC: 62AA2BDCiActivate.espCRC: 768FEF21ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.espCRC: B61E85AEVersion: 3.1-Improved Runes.espCRC: 535D6CAAiHUD.espCRC: 6098B756SmithingTreeDG.espCRC: D7452A78DelevWarning: Use either SmithingTree.esp or SmithingTreeDG.esp, not both.Steel Bolts For All.espCRC: 10006381Improved Casting.espCRC: A23EFC02ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.espCRC: 18F68EDCVersion: 3.1Improved Expert Spells.espCRC: CD9C8FD1Katarina Armor.espCRC: DC63A5FCDaggerCraft.espCRC: 34CDF86BKKFur.espCRC: 53BB909EKKSDrBWeightFix.espCRC: 41F414C5NordicSkaalHeavyFalmerWeightFix.espCRC: 136078FDNote: Requires: CBBEKKSDGWeightSliderFix.espCRC: 78B44BC8LeftHandRings - Dawnguard.espCRC: A1D76ED0Version: 1.4LFox Alchemists Have Ingredients Ultra.espCRC: FE3BE2BBRelevLFox Blacksmiths Have Metals.espCRC: A31B79B8Delev, RelevLost Art of the Blacksmith.espCRC: 1720F631SkyUI.espCRC: 9330CAF7Version: 4.1Customizable Camera.espCRC: 42519969AchieveThat.espCRC: 9E2FF613Version: 3.2.1Dual Sheath Redux.espCRC: 49778E0BNote: Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+LFox Improved Night Eye No Blur.espCRC: 2DC71888Lich King's Armor.espCRC: 5C5EB4D7Warning: Contains unexpected (or out of order) records. A compatibility patch fixed and cleaned with TES5Edit can be obtained here. Compatibility PatchMapseller Dragonborn.espCRC: DDFA7586RaceMenuPlugin.espCRC: 8A8A009FNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.Proper Aiming.espCRC: 4800E883RaceMenu.espCRC: 2765B7D0RichMerchants.espCRC: E9C519B5RelevSkein of Magnus.espCRC: 62EAFAD6Hoodless Archmage - OE.espCRC: A6BD4F0FSkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.espCRC: 3A2624E4Version: 3.0.espBHTNF.espCRC: B82FE367NoxUE2.00.espCRC: D62F798BSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espCRC: 37A6F2FAVersion: v6.5.2aDelev, RelevHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espCRC: 2A9F7DEDVersion: 7.1Delev, RelevaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espCRC: 4B3CBB77skyforgedWeapons.espCRC: B3E7318Ancient Dragon Knight Armor.espCRC: 412AC385LocalizedGuildJobs.espCRC: 71FE325DWarning: Contains 15 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.Civil War Repairs.espCRC: 28840D9KhalSpellmakingMod.espCRC: 1BE817CDSmithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.espCRC: 80AAE7FFSmithingTreeDB.espCRC: DF89536DTDNEquipableHorns.espCRC: 4FC81A73Teleport.espCRC: 64D408DAnimated Enchantments.espCRC: B76A1D3ASofiaFollower.espCRC: 7CAB163Ancient Spells 2.espCRC: 5A84979BBF.espCRC: B0C1D34AIllusionSpells.espCRC: A0A39E68Blacksmith Chests.espCRC: 645979FCExtended Encounters.espCRC: 8D3EB734DragonFastTravelRedone.espCRC: B41F5DD7Enchanters Merchant v1_1.espCRC: 45D74EA2ThievesGuildTrapDoor.espCRC: 2D542D39R18pn - Shanoa Armors.espCRC: 1D0B11ABMapseller.espCRC: 17EA833CGhosu - Project Flintlock.espCRC: 3D18C33FVersion: 1.3Warning: Contains 7 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.UniqueBows.espCRC: BE7EE561Version: 1.1Warning: Contains 1 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.DragonboneBarbarianArmor.espCRC: 7571DF07My Home Is Your Home.espCRC: DDC76932Version: 1.21Warning: Contains 3 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.Field Alchemy.espCRC: 99C3C399Version: 2.2.3Cuteunitized Twohanded Dawnbreaker.espCRC: 17C61FE7UnblockActivateNoWereNoMap.espCRC: DF374537UnechantedItems.espCRC: D6A0E576Unique Uniques.espCRC: 286918DBVersion: 1.7GraphicsEliteKnightArmor.espCRC: 9CCFAAD5VioLens.espCRC: 9B65C85Version: 1.01zzArmormashups.espCRC: D733EC03Dual Sheath Redux Patch.espCRC: 23BDCC95EzEWorldMap.espCRC: F8E6D1F6EzEMapSolstheim.espCRC: 3A36C5F1Version Information LOOT Version 0.6.1 Masterlist Updating Enabled Masterlist Revision 4e4fc8afc Masterlist Date 2015-02-15Plugin & Message Counts Active Plugins 156 Dirty Plugins 5 Total Plugins 156 Warnings 7 Errors 0 Total Messages 16General MessagesNote: Latest LOOT thread.Note: It appears you have Fores New Idles in Skyrim installed. Remember to run GenerateFNISforUsers.exe every time you have installed or de-installed FNIS, or a FNIS based mod. Edited February 25, 2015 by SkaSwag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaka Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 you should turn off all auto saving features of skyrim and only save manually. Have you run your load order through ts5edit?Check to see if your mods need compatibility patches to work with Lakeview manor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkaSwag Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 Thanks for the reply vlaka! =D1. Disabling auto-save ASAP.2. I have run my load order through TES V edit. I'm not sure what to make of the information, but it is able to finish the loading process. I can relate the log info, if necessary.3. I've checked for compatibility patches, and from what I've found, I believe I have what I need. (I even got the patch for Lich King Armor) I was curious if this could be a memory issue. I've used Skyrim Performance Monitor to observe my memory usage in game. In the Lakeview area, it was initially around 2GB with 2k texture mods installed. I uninstalled the 2k texture mods, using the official high resolution DLC texture packs and it's now around 1.5GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nozzer66 Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Are you running SKSE and the memory fix that it encloses within? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaka Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I'd have a look and disable any mods which would alter the terrain or anything to do with Herthfire.Have you cleaned your esms? Try turning off your home is my home and see if it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkaSwag Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 I apologize for the late response, school and what not. I think, knock on wood, that disabling auto-saves may have done the job. I was able to enter and leave Lakeview Manor, and I didn't get any CTDs after playing for an hour and a half.Enabling autosaves=noob mistake, I reckon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlaka Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Eh it's not something everyone thinks would be the cause of their problems. Easy to overlook ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkaSwag Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) I think it's funny that the actual fix itself, disabling autosave in the game menu, took less work than posting for help. Not that I'm ungrateful! :pinch: This is the first time I've turned directly to the community for help. 10/10, would do again. :laugh: Edited February 26, 2015 by SkaSwag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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