joemodda Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 My save is nearing 10mb. It's not caused by bloating but I have about 100 mods on the save file. I think the large save file is causing the crashes when I save. Man, I hate corrupt saves >:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth613 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Are you certain it's not bloat? What evidence to you have to say it's not bloat? How did you come to that conclusion? I ask these questions because I have double the amount of mods you have, nearly 300 hours gameplay, nearing my 1200th save, and only have a 6.3MB save file with my current character. I never have had a save file near 10MB in the time I've played Oblivion, with many different mod load outs and characters. Have you checked your OBSE.log to see if there is any mention of bloat? Many times OBSE will report when there are an excessive amount of strings being saved. You can also get save statistics, and OBSE statistics, from Wrye Bash. You should review those as well. Also a corrupt save can be corrupt for whatever reason. It may have nothing to do with size of the file, but instead the content within the file. So if the file is corrupt you should just ditch it, it's the only safe thing to do. This is why I keep so many different saves. If one does become corrupt I have something to fall back on. Worst case scenario is I lose about 30min of game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joemodda Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 To be honest, the only way I know of detecting a bloat is by right-clicking my save file on Wrye Bash and choosing "Remove Bloat."And you mention something about "OBSE Log?" Do you think you can brief me in on what that does? As for backing up my save files, I use the streamline save feature to save my games. I can revert to an earlier save (and I did), but after a few minutes of gameplay, the save file just goes corrupto again. If it helps, should I post a list of my mods and the load order? (I use BOSS as well) And thanks for your helping me out :teehee: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooth613 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Wrye Bash is fine for removing Bloat, it does fair enough. If you notice in the right click menu you can also get statistics. About the OBSE.log. If, I'm assuming you do, have OBSE installed it creates a log in the Oblivion folder. It's a simple .txt file. Open that up and see if it mentions anything about excessive strings. You will see the following if you have possible bloat Loading strings WARNING: substantial numbers of string variables exist for the following files (may indicate savegame bloat): All Natural Base.esm (872 strings) Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp (320 strings) EnchantmentMastery.esp (118 strings) You can disable those mods, clean save, then re-enable them again to "start fresh" so to speak. Posting your Load Order would be beneficial, yes. Someone might be able to spot a mod that's notorious for bloat. If all of your saves eventually become corrupt after a certain point then I have to assume something is triggering that. Finding exactly what that trigger is might be tricky. Deactivating suspected mods is a good start. Sometimes you might just simply have to start over. It's happened to all of us at least once where you just can't rescue your information and have to abandon it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hickory Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Do you, or any of your mods, use the 'placeatme', (a notorious bloat cause) command? Or on the same tack, the 'DuplicateAllItems' or 'RemoveAllItems" on companions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joemodda Posted November 12, 2010 Author Share Posted November 12, 2010 Here's the load order: Oblivion.esmYou Are Here.esmAll Natural Base.esmFrancesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esmFrancesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esmCobl Main.esmOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmTamrielTravellers.esmFCOM_Convergence.esmKvatch Rebuilt.esmBetter Cities Resources.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmUnnecessaryViolence.esmUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espBetter Cities .espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Leveled Guards.espFCOM_Francescos.espFCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.espFCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.espFran Armor Add-on.espFran_Lv30Item_Maltz.espAll Natural - Real Lights.espAll Natural.espAll Natural - SI.espImmersive Interiors.espImmersive Interiors - Lights Addon.espAmbientTownSounds.espMIS.espMIS New Sounds Optional Part.espPCSoundBorrodin.espWindowLightingSystem.espAmbientDungeons.espItem interchange - Extraction.espCrowded Cities 15.espCrowded Roads 23.espFF_Real_Thirst.espEnhanced Hotkeys.espDLCHorseArmor.espDLCOrrery.espDLCVileLair.espDLCMehrunesRazor.espDLCSpellTomes.espDLCThievesDen.espExnemRuneskulls.espFCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.espCobl Glue.espCobl Si.espFF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.espBob's Armory Oblivion.espFCOM_BobsArmory.espOblivion WarCry EV.espFCOM_WarCry.espOscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.espOOO 1.32-Cobl.espFCOM_Cobl.espFCOM_Convergence.espFCOM_RealSwords.espTamrielTravellers4OOO.espTamrielTravellersItemsnpc.espTamrielTravellersItemsCobl.espShiveringIsleTravellers.espShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.espFCOM_TamrielTravelers.espOOO-WaterFish.espMMM-Cobl.espKvatch Rebuilt.espKvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.espKvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.espScribe Supplies.espVaultsofCyrodiilBC.espDLCBattlehornCastle.espDLCfrostcrag.espFrostcragRebornCobl.espElsweyrAnequina.espxuldarkforest.espxulStendarrValley.espxulTheHeath.espXulEntiusGorge.espxulFallenleafEverglade.espAnequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.espxulColovianHighlands_EV.espxulChorrolHinterland.espxulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.espxulBravilBarrowfields.espxulLushWoodlands.espxulAncientYews.espxulAncientRedwoods.espxulCloudtopMountains.espxulArriusCreek.espxulPatch_AY_AC.espxulRollingHills_EV.espxulPantherRiver.espxulRiverEthe.espxulBrenaRiverRavine.espxulImperialIsle.espxulBlackwoodForest.espxulCheydinhalFalls.espxulAspenWood.espxulSkingradOutskirts.espxulSnowdale.espFrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.espOOO-Snowdale Patch.espFCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.espP1DkeyChain.espSalmo the Baker, Cobl.espToggleable Quantity Prompt.espRealisticFatigue.espRealisticHealth.espRealSleepExtended.espSupremeMagicka.espSM_ShiveringIsles.espSM_DLCSpellTome.espSM_OOO.espSM_MMM.espSM_COBL.espSM_Scrolls.espSM_SigilStone.espMidasSpells.espMidas OscuroGems.espMidas Betterholy.espMidas Reduced Costs Half.espMart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.espFrostcragMidasLab.espMidas PowDur3x.espDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espSM_DeadlyReflex.espItem interchange - Placement for FCOM.espItem interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.espBetter Cities Full.espBetter Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.espBetter Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.espBetter Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.espBetter Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.espBetter Cities - VWD of the IC.espBetter Imperial City.espBetter Imperial City FPS Patch.espBetter Cities Full FPS Patch.espDuke Patricks - Magic you can believe in.espUnnecessaryViolence.espReal Hunger, Cobl.espCobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.espAll Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.espBashed Patch, 0.espOblivion Graphics Extender Support.espStreamline 3.1.esp Also here's the Wrye Bash Statistic Abomb Counter Integer: 0x480D531C Float: 144716.44 Fbomb Counter Next in-game object: FF0236EC Array Sizes 487 Created Items 132851 Records 34227 Fids Created Items 160 29 kb ALCH 19 4 kb ARMO 2 0 kb BOOK 105 16 kb CLOT 4 0 kb ENCH 5 0 kb KEYM 3 0 kb MISC 59 43 kb NPC_ 70 12 kb SLGM 47 4 kb SPEL 13 1 kb WEAP Fids Refed Changed MI Mod Name 290 Lost Refs (Fid == 0) 19410 61197 0 Oblivion.esm 3 3 1 You Are Here.esm 132 4 2 All Natural Base.esm 212 504 3 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 638 1505 4 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm 721 91 5 Cobl Main.esm 2493 3909 6 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm 936 1109 7 Mart's Monster Mod.esm 65 186 8 TamrielTravellers.esm 14 5 9 FCOM_Convergence.esm 203 1253 10 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 2074 4541 11 Better Cities Resources.esm 3 0 12 HorseCombatMaster.esm 0 1 13 UnnecessaryViolence.esm 14 168 14 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 1 0 15 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 3 22 16 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp 1 0 17 Better Cities .esp 5 54 18 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp 0 98 19 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp 0 16 21 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp 6 115 22 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp 37 0 23 Fran Armor Add-on.esp 1 80 25 All Natural.esp 6 17170 27 Immersive Interiors.esp 0 362 28 Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp 1 5 30 MIS.esp 4 1 31 MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp 4 29 32 PCSoundBorrodin.esp 1 1 33 WindowLightingSystem.esp 0 1 34 AmbientDungeons.esp 359 688 35 Crowded Cities 15.esp 120 750 36 Crowded Roads 23.esp 1 1 37 Enhanced Hotkeys.esp 9 15 38 DLCHorseArmor.esp 27 16 39 DLCOrrery.esp 77 541 40 DLCVileLair.esp 112 278 41 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 401 2 42 DLCSpellTomes.esp 146 548 43 DLCThievesDen.esp 13 0 44 ExnemRuneskulls.esp 63 294 45 Cobl Glue.esp 1 0 46 Cobl Si.esp 80 3 47 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp 2 0 48 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp 295 83 49 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp 9 5 50 FCOM_WarCry.esp 12 2 52 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp 9 37 53 FCOM_Convergence.esp 124 0 54 FCOM_RealSwords.esp 706 228 55 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp 66 20 57 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp 1 121 58 OOO-WaterFish.esp 1 0 59 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp 1 0 60 Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp 20 49 61 Scribe Supplies.esp 150 477 62 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp 213 1533 63 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 446 2106 64 DLCfrostcrag.esp 15 23 65 FrostcragRebornCobl.esp 936 2516 66 ElsweyrAnequina.esp 20 263 67 xuldarkforest.esp 9 21 68 xulStendarrValley.esp 18 65 69 xulTheHeath.esp 3 11 70 XulEntiusGorge.esp 2 65 71 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp 1 0 72 Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp 22 106 73 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp 205 3002 74 xulChorrolHinterland.esp 16 187 75 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp 87 2018 76 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp 4 0 77 xulLushWoodlands.esp 7 414 78 xulAncientYews.esp 17 59 79 xulAncientRedwoods.esp 3 86 80 xulCloudtopMountains.esp 52 143 81 xulArriusCreek.esp 2 1 82 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp 213 665 83 xulRollingHills_EV.esp 3 15 84 xulPantherRiver.esp 3 333 85 xulRiverEthe.esp 36 158 86 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp 72 231 87 xulImperialIsle.esp 11 126 88 xulBlackwoodForest.esp 10 189 89 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp 95 78 90 xulAspenWood.esp 147 587 91 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp 3 143 92 xulSnowdale.esp 12 15 95 P1DkeyChain.esp 90 35 96 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp 0 3 97 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp 1 7 98 RealisticFatigue.esp 0 1 99 RealisticHealth.esp 5 1 100 RealSleepExtended.esp 275 25 101 SupremeMagicka.esp 504 2402 103 MidasSpells.esp 19 21 105 FrostcragMidasLab.esp 360 10552 106 Better Cities Full.esp 0 315 108 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp 98 4540 109 Better Imperial City.esp 1 1 110 Duke Patricks - Magic you can believe in.esp 82 76 111 UnnecessaryViolence.esp 13 1 112 Real Hunger, Cobl.esp 4 2 114 Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp 9 15 115 Streamline 3.1.esp 0 3106 255 testing.ess 6 Faction 23 Oblivion.esm 23 Total 19 Apparatus 20 Oblivion.esm 20 Total 20 Armor 561 Oblivion.esm 42 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 530 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm 1 UnnecessaryViolence.esp 19 testing.ess 1153 Total 21 Book 228 Oblivion.esm 1 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm 1 Better Cities Resources.esm 8 DLCVileLair.esp 8 Scribe Supplies.esp 10 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 6 DLCfrostcrag.esp 3 FrostcragMidasLab.esp 1 UnnecessaryViolence.esp 2 testing.ess 268 Total 22 Clothing 493 Oblivion.esm 105 testing.ess 598 Total 25 Ingredient 1 Oblivion.esm 1 Total 27 Misc. Item 197 Oblivion.esm 1 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm 3 testing.ess 201 Total 33 Weapon 848 Oblivion.esm 94 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 684 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm 2 UnnecessaryViolence.esp 13 testing.ess 1641 Total 34 Unknown 57 Oblivion.esm 57 Total 35 NPC 2029 Oblivion.esm 342 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 1073 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm 795 Mart's Monster Mod.esm 87 TamrielTravellers.esm 3 FCOM_Convergence.esm 41 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 295 Better Cities Resources.esm 54 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp 98 Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp 15 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp 115 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp 287 Crowded Cities 15.esp 108 Crowded Roads 23.esp 5 DLCOrrery.esp 3 DLCVileLair.esp 52 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 1 DLCSpellTomes.esp 9 DLCThievesDen.esp 36 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp 36 FCOM_Convergence.esp 1 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp 31 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp 17 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 25 DLCfrostcrag.esp 222 ElsweyrAnequina.esp 15 xulChorrolHinterland.esp 1 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp 5 xulRollingHills_EV.esp 35 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp 4 xulImperialIsle.esp 6 xulAspenWood.esp 12 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp 3 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp 41 MidasSpells.esp 1 UnnecessaryViolence.esp 59 testing.ess 5962 Total 36 Creature 210 Oblivion.esm 238 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm 314 Mart's Monster Mod.esm 29 TamrielTravellers.esm 1 FCOM_Convergence.esm 20 Better Cities Resources.esm 2 DLCHorseArmor.esp 3 DLCThievesDen.esp 46 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp 5 FCOM_WarCry.esp 1 FCOM_Convergence.esp 2 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 10 DLCfrostcrag.esp 3 xuldarkforest.esp 1 xulTheHeath.esp 4 xulChorrolHinterland.esp 2 xulAncientRedwoods.esp 5 xulArriusCreek.esp 16 xulRollingHills_EV.esp 3 xulImperialIsle.esp 1 xulBlackwoodForest.esp 4 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp 8 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp 1 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp 46 MidasSpells.esp 2 Better Imperial City.esp 977 Total 38 Unknown 24 Oblivion.esm 70 testing.ess 94 Total 39 Key 25 Oblivion.esm 1 DLCVileLair.esp 1 DLCfrostcrag.esp 1 P1DkeyChain.esp 5 testing.ess 33 Total 48 Cell 4367 Oblivion.esm 25 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 93 Better Cities Resources.esm 4 DLCVileLair.esp 2 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp 5 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 9 DLCfrostcrag.esp 45 ElsweyrAnequina.esp 3 xulChorrolHinterland.esp 3 xulArriusCreek.esp 2 xulRollingHills_EV.esp 1 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp 1 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp 129 MidasSpells.esp 1 FrostcragMidasLab.esp 470 testing.ess 5160 Total 49 Object Ref 44694 Oblivion.esm 2 You Are Here.esm 31 Cobl Main.esm 1972 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm 70 TamrielTravellers.esm 1076 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 3690 Better Cities Resources.esm 51 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 80 All Natural.esp 17170 Immersive Interiors.esp 362 Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp 5 MIS.esp 1 PCSoundBorrodin.esp 401 Crowded Cities 15.esp 642 Crowded Roads 23.esp 6 DLCHorseArmor.esp 2 DLCOrrery.esp 511 DLCVileLair.esp 169 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 515 DLCThievesDen.esp 293 Cobl Glue.esp 3 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp 1 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp 105 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp 7 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp 120 OOO-WaterFish.esp 41 Scribe Supplies.esp 405 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp 1466 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 1907 DLCfrostcrag.esp 22 FrostcragRebornCobl.esp 1731 ElsweyrAnequina.esp 236 xuldarkforest.esp 11 xulStendarrValley.esp 49 xulTheHeath.esp 57 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp 82 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp 2945 xulChorrolHinterland.esp 179 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp 1961 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp 412 xulAncientYews.esp 31 xulAncientRedwoods.esp 86 xulCloudtopMountains.esp 132 xulArriusCreek.esp 1 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp 583 xulRollingHills_EV.esp 12 xulPantherRiver.esp 328 xulRiverEthe.esp 95 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp 198 xulImperialIsle.esp 124 xulBlackwoodForest.esp 183 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp 44 xulAspenWood.esp 537 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp 127 xulSnowdale.esp 5 P1DkeyChain.esp 27 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp 13 SupremeMagicka.esp 1796 MidasSpells.esp 17 FrostcragMidasLab.esp 10317 Better Cities Full.esp 315 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp 4499 Better Imperial City.esp 45 UnnecessaryViolence.esp 1 Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp 1 Streamline 3.1.esp 396 testing.ess 103396 Total 50 NPC Ref 2016 Oblivion.esm 227 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm 88 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 331 Better Cities Resources.esm 5 DLCOrrery.esp 3 DLCVileLair.esp 50 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 1 DLCSpellTomes.esp 10 DLCThievesDen.esp 80 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp 8 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp 33 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp 20 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 29 DLCfrostcrag.esp 365 ElsweyrAnequina.esp 1 xulStendarrValley.esp 4 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp 17 xulChorrolHinterland.esp 6 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp 4 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp 1 xulAncientRedwoods.esp 5 xulRollingHills_EV.esp 9 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp 9 xulImperialIsle.esp 13 xulAspenWood.esp 17 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp 3 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp 46 MidasSpells.esp 180 Better Cities Full.esp 5 Better Imperial City.esp 1 UnnecessaryViolence.esp 521 testing.ess 4108 Total 51 Creature Ref 737 Oblivion.esm 382 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm 9 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 14 Better Cities Resources.esm 9 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 2 DLCHorseArmor.esp 4 DLCVileLair.esp 6 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 10 DLCThievesDen.esp 42 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp 4 ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp 6 VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp 3 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 105 DLCfrostcrag.esp 140 ElsweyrAnequina.esp 23 xuldarkforest.esp 9 xulStendarrValley.esp 14 xulTheHeath.esp 11 XulEntiusGorge.esp 8 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp 20 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp 18 xulChorrolHinterland.esp 1 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp 53 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp 2 xulAncientYews.esp 24 xulAncientRedwoods.esp 3 xulArriusCreek.esp 54 xulRollingHills_EV.esp 3 xulPantherRiver.esp 5 xulRiverEthe.esp 17 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp 17 xulImperialIsle.esp 1 xulBlackwoodForest.esp 2 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp 15 xulAspenWood.esp 12 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp 16 xulSnowdale.esp 1 Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp 316 MidasSpells.esp 34 Better Cities Full.esp 23 Better Imperial City.esp 1 UnnecessaryViolence.esp 1443 testing.ess 3619 Total 58 Dialog Entry 4386 Oblivion.esm 4 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm 47 Better Cities Resources.esm 3 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 24 PCSoundBorrodin.esp 4 DLCHorseArmor.esp 3 DLCOrrery.esp 6 DLCVileLair.esp 9 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 4 RealisticFatigue.esp 20 MidasSpells.esp 4510 Total 59 Quest 278 Oblivion.esm 1 You Are Here.esm 4 All Natural Base.esm 26 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm 287 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm 60 Cobl Main.esm 15 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm 1 FCOM_Convergence.esm 14 Kvatch Rebuilt.esm 50 Better Cities Resources.esm 1 UnnecessaryViolence.esm 105 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp 22 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp 1 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp 1 MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp 4 PCSoundBorrodin.esp 1 WindowLightingSystem.esp 1 AmbientDungeons.esp 1 Enhanced Hotkeys.esp 1 DLCHorseArmor.esp 1 DLCOrrery.esp 1 DLCVileLair.esp 1 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 1 DLCThievesDen.esp 1 Cobl Glue.esp 2 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp 1 TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp 1 OOO-WaterFish.esp 1 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 14 DLCfrostcrag.esp 1 FrostcragRebornCobl.esp 13 ElsweyrAnequina.esp 1 xuldarkforest.esp 1 xulTheHeath.esp 1 xulAncientRedwoods.esp 1 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp 9 P1DkeyChain.esp 3 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp 3 RealisticFatigue.esp 1 RealisticHealth.esp 1 RealSleepExtended.esp 12 SupremeMagicka.esp 8 MidasSpells.esp 21 Better Cities Full.esp 11 Better Imperial City.esp 1 Duke Patricks - Magic you can believe in.esp 24 UnnecessaryViolence.esp 1 Real Hunger, Cobl.esp 1 Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp 14 Streamline 3.1.esp 1026 Total 61 AI Package 3 Oblivion.esm 3 Total I ckecked the OBSE log; there isn't any mention of bloating, but underneath "Loading Array Variables," there are a bunch of lines that read "plugin didn't finish reading chunk"And one line "plugin did not read all of its data (at 000000000001204A expected 000000000001204B)"I don't use companion mods and I don't seem to recall having a mod that utilizes "placeatme" commands or stuff similar to that. But you can look through my load order to help me spot mods that wou;d cause bloating 70+ hours into the game and I'm barely half-way through with the game. I don't want to start over AGAIN! This problem happened to all 4 of my playthroughs. I hate having to start over and I really hate having to gather all my uber equipment just to lose it all.Oyyeah, does dropping items in your house count towards bloating? I usually like to display some of my finer loot around my house, sort of like a museum. I didn't drop as much stuff in this save, but I did it in previous playthroughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smooth613 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 If your save file is actually corrupt there is not really anything that can be done. You simply have to revert to a previous save or start over. That's all the choices you have. I think you're experiencing problems that's specific to your setup if you're continually getting corrupt saves. The trick is finding exactly which mod is causing it. Unfortunately I can't help you with that other than advising against mods that use the previously mentioned commands Hickory listed. A fresh install and rework of your Load Order might be due. Since this is the best way to "clean" everything out and start over. Check out the sticky thread at the top of this page for Corrupted Saves. Maybe something there can be of some help. I have nothing more to offer other than cutting down on some mods until you get a perfectly stable game. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brasher Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Some experts say that the definition of a bloated save file is one that reaches 10 MB. At that point problems become more frequent and it may be best to abandon that character and start a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joemodda Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 I just realized something. Now this might sound unusual, but I like to hoarde a lot of stuff. I've got a LOT of magic weapons/armor in my chests. I don't know why, but I have a strange magic item fetish and I can't stop collecting them. When I find some I usually dump my item load into the designated chests. Do you guys think this have to with the unusual bloat? The items in the chest don't reset/disappear and so they just sit there collecting dust... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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