Fallout 3 CTD Windows 7 x64 Problem

[Ainene]

Final Update on Problem Solving

 

The Game works perfectly on 1.07 with all DLC's and FOSE! the problem was Mods. I'm able to play more than 30minutes and actually exit the game without crashes or the game being stuck in background (window mode does this)

 

Hello!

 

I just wanted to ask you guys if you can solve my problem. also I will be adding all advices to a list so that further people looking for problems on Windows 7 x64 can try them out (Incase there isn't one such list!)

 

Problem:

Crash to Desktop every 2-6minutes

Random Freezes when saving & loading in small timeframe (you do know what I mean)

Game wont refuse to quit when I either "qqq" or exit game manually but this isn't much of a problem for me. probly a addon causes this. I don't have a problem force killing fallout.

 

Tried Solutions:

• FFDshow Fix (Adding Fallout3.exe)
  What did it do? It actually did nothing from what I felt, DID NOTHING, It was already included in list but I added it again to be 'sure' well I did add fose as well. do note that I uninstalled CCCP abit later with the option not to save config
  
• Add iNumHWThreads=2
  Yes It actually helped with my freezes. I'm using a tripple core. Using threads=3 didn't help. maybe did it worse.
  
• Compability XP (SP3)
  I don't know for sure if it did much but it seems it DID help. aint sure.
  
• Disabling AA
  Only thing it did was lower my memory usage by 20-50% also increased FPS as well
  
• Disabling HDR
  Well It DID help abit not much thou
  
• Running Window Mode
  This HELPED MOST! I can actually play more than 20minutes. making this game PLAYABLE but for the matter worse I hate window mode. (NEVER did like it. it's a neat function but not a good feeling for me)
  
• Fixing .Net 3
  I believe Windows 7 Ultimate x64 already has the fixed version. if not do say so and I will try to use the version you provided link for
  
• Disable UAC
  Running with Disabled UAC also note that I installed in another partition so that solves that as well, also note I never had problems with UAC
  
• Vsync On/Off
  Doesnt help with CTD or such. only visual (stuttering)
  
• Updated Drivers
  Running quite new drivers! (all but ATI are latest. ATI @ 10.9)
  
• Visual Theme Disabled
  Yeah, Tread it, didnt help
  
• Administration option is always on for me.
  I also tried it forcing to admin even thou I'm a admin but didnt help rather didnt do anything
  
• Disabled G4WL
  Yeah, I did manually disable it on FOMM but If I remember correctly FOSE does disable it as well
  
• Incase you DIDN'T notice but I'm running the PCB (Purge Cell Buffer) Mod.
  

 

 

 

System Specifictions

AMD Phenom 8650 2.1ghz (3 Cores)

AMD HD4850 512MB (ASUS EAH4850 512mb - Oldest version, problems with bad fans on this card! but hasnt broken in 2 years...)

4096MB (4GB) DDR2 800mhz RAM (Abit troublesome ram but works fine)

A Simple 7200rpm HDD

OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64

 

Fallout 3 information:

G.O.T.Y 1.07 version running with along FOSE 1.02b & FOMM 0.12.6

All DLC from GOTY Disc

 

MODS (I barely think this is the reason but I will give my list anyway)

 

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Lings.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] Zeta.esm

[X] LingsDLC.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather.esm

[X] StreetLights.esm

[X] FNNCQ.esm

[ ] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

[ ] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Operation Anchorage.esp

[ ] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - The Pitt.esp

[ ] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Broken Steel.esp

[ ] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Point Lookout.esp

[ ] Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch - Mothership Zeta.esp

[X] DarNifiedUIF3.esp

[X] StreetLights - Wasteland.esp

[X] PCB.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

[X] Tailor Maid.esp

[X] Tailor Maid Anchorage.esp

[X] Tailor Maid PITT.esp

[X] Tailor Maid Brokensteel.esp

[X] Tailor Maid ZETA.esp

[X] Tailor Maid Black Retex.esp

[X] WeaponModKits.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

[X] WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

[X] FrenchMaid.esp

[X] AdvancedReconGear.esp

[X] SchoolUniforms.esp

[X] blackrock_shooter.esp

[X] EVE.esp

[X] EVE Operation Anchorage.esp

[X] EVE - FWE Master Release.esp

[X] EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp

[X] EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp

[X] 1PipboyPDA.esp

[X] Realistic Interior Lighting.esp

[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - BS.esp

[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - OA.esp

[X] Realistic Interior Lighting - PL.esp

[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Main.esp

[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Anchorage.esp

[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - The Pitt.esp

[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Broken Steel.esp

[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Point Lookout.esp

[X] Xepha's Dynamic Weather - Experimental Green Tint Remover.esp

[X] EVE.esm

[ ] lotusarmorv1.esp

[ ] Merge Patch.esp

[X] Nerged Abt.esp

 

Note: Nerged Abt is Merged Patch. Just didnt bother retyping it.

Note #2. Lotus Armor does seem to create texture problems with the addons so I'm not using it

Note #3: Unofficial Patch does seem to create more problems than it solves for me

 

Addition Information:

I have been browsing the web for more information but havn't found.

I just hope this isnt a oblivion problem where the installation of Patch/DLC is cause. In that case I will hate Bethesda Software for creating yet another worthless copy of all DLC

 

I'm quite good with computers so you can go all expert untill I ask what you meant! (this doesn't apply incase you werent clear enough!)

 

 

Update It seems that I fixed my light texture problems. but created another one as well.

That is when I loaded the save without streetlights (both versions) It seems to fix the texture problems I had when it came to lights, (was more than my pipboy light not showing correctly but also textures)

but I create another problem and that problem causes game to Freeze after a few seconds upon entering a house. I will try out tomorrow if I can fix it by reinstalling the entire FO3 with backup copy of directory with DLC only installed. and checking if its possible to play

then if it's playable I will do a manual (the most boring thing to do!) check of every mod that I want to install. but this is just incase I don't have problems with the 1.07 + DLC installation. if I still have problems I shall return!

[LadyMilla]

Just an idea:

 

Somebody on the forums complained about frequent crashes/inability to enter certain areas. His problems stopped when he removed Streetlights. You might want to give it a try and disable that single mod.

 

Also, as far as I remember, for Lings.esm it is preferable to place it at the end of your .esm list, along with LingsDLC.esm.

[bben46]

There is NO problem with running FO3 on Win7x64. I use it and many others do also with none of the problems you describe. Your most likely problem is a mod.

 

First. remove ALL mods - not just disable as that does not remove them, they are still loaded, just not activated.

 

Here is a simple way to revert to vanilla

make a new folder outside of the Fallout folder.

MOVE the data folder from your fallout folder into that folder - rename it oldata help keep track of it.

Make a new data folder in the fallout folder (fallout 3\data)

COPY the following list of files FROM the oldata folder into the new folder

Here is the list of the files in a vanilla data folder.

 

Music (folder)

Shaders (folder)

Video (folder)

Credits.txt - probably not needed

Fallout-MenuVoices.bsa

Fallout-Meshes.bsa

Fallout-Misc.bsa

Fallout-sound.bsa

Fallout-Textures.bsa

Fallout-Voices.bsa

Fallout3.esm

 

Then test with no mods. After you get the vanilla game working right add your mods one at a time to see which one is causing your problem.

 

BTW, I hope you didn't type out that mod list by hand - use FOMM and copy paste the mod list

[Ainene]

Just an idea:

 

Somebody on the forums complained about frequent crashes/inability to enter certain areas. His problems stopped when he removed Streetlights. You might want to give it a try and disable that single mod.

 

Also, as far as I remember, for Lings.esm it is preferable to place it at the end of your .esm list, along with LingsDLC.esm.

 

Okay! I will do that. Also I will try out disabling Streetlights also place Lings down

 

 

 

There is NO problem with running FO3 on Win7x64. I use it and many others do also with none of the problems you describe. Your most likely problem is a mod.

 

First. remove ALL mods - not just disable as that does not remove them, they are still loaded, just not activated.

 

Here is a simple way to revert to vanilla

make a new folder outside of the Fallout folder.

MOVE the data folder from your fallout folder into that folder - rename it oldata help keep track of it.

Make a new data folder in the fallout folder (fallout 3\data)

COPY the following list of files FROM the oldata folder into the new folder

Here is the list of the files in a vanilla data folder.

 

Music (folder)

Shaders (folder)

Video (folder)

Credits.txt - probably not needed

Fallout-MenuVoices.bsa

Fallout-Meshes.bsa

Fallout-Misc.bsa

Fallout-sound.bsa

Fallout-Textures.bsa

Fallout-Voices.bsa

Fallout3.esm

 

Then test with no mods. After you get the vanilla game working right add your mods one at a time to see which one is causing your problem.

 

BTW, I hope you didn't type out that mod list by hand - use FOMM and copy paste the mod list

 

I used FOMM to make that list yeah.

 

I do have the same problems (well, they seem pretty same to me since they pretty much happen at the same time n same way

also, are you sure it doesn't matter how the patch is installed? I mean it's currently being installed from Vanilla to 1.07 and not from Vanilla -> Patch -> 1.07 (Oblivion had such problems with some stuff.)

Well I will try out some mods that doesn't affect the gameplay but rather the visuals but I have tested quite a lot of mods (DIFFERENT from my entire. as this is my 8th if not more reinstallation. and I tried 5 different mod builds. (Different types of Mods)

Most produced the same effects but some had more problems (caused by mods)

 

well I will try out disabling the Visual-Editing Mods then Try out the Game Mechanism Mods etc etc well, rather wouldn't be better if I just load up my Fallout 3 1.07 with DLC folder that I set aside as backup? or much it be Non-DLC-NonPatched?

 

Update: Without Streetlights the game became 2 unbalanced.

[LadyMilla]

Update: Without Streetlights the game became 2 unbalanced.

 

Unbalanced? What does that mean: more difficult or more crash prone?

[bben46]

Just reinstalling the game using the built in uninstaller does not remove the mods or save games - or any of the problems associated with them. Deactivating a mod by removing the check mark does not remove the mod. it, as well as any problems are still loaded, just no longer used in game. So, just deactivating a mod may or may not work depending on what the problem is.

 

My revert to vanilla DOES remove the mods entirely - But not the saves which are in a different location. After removing all mods and getting the vanilla game back, you can move the original set of mods back if you feel there is nothing wrong with them, or reinstall the mods if you do. And it's much quicker than another reinstall.

[Ainene]

Update: Without Streetlights the game became 2 unbalanced.

 

Unbalanced? What does that mean: more difficult or more crash prone?

I meant that the game freezes more

 

Just reinstalling the game using the built in uninstaller does not remove the mods or save games - or any of the problems associated with them. Deactivating a mod by removing the check mark does not remove the mod. it, as well as any problems are still loaded, just no longer used in game. So, just deactivating a mod may or may not work depending on what the problem is.

 

My revert to vanilla DOES remove the mods entirely - But not the saves which are in a different location. After removing all mods and getting the vanilla game back, you can move the original set of mods back if you feel there is nothing wrong with them, or reinstall the mods if you do. And it's much quicker than another reinstall.

 

Well mate, the reason why I asked here was because I didnt find the clue what the problem is. and not because i'm new to computers nor windows. I'm quite experinced with computers n know how a clean uninstall is. that is entire wipe of Main Directory, Register & Additional Supporting Directories such as Profiles, AppData, Plugin & Uninstall information.

 

What I meant was that I was gonna save my load order list. then just delete my "Fallout 3" Folder, Rename "Fallout 3 - Backup" to "Fallout 3" then try to play that and see if problems exists

if there exists I do a clean uninstall and delete "Profile (Thou Saving Save Games in rar), AppData (If there is such, don't believe it thou) and Main Folder"

[Ainene]

Freeze after 6.59minutes. in 10th birthday.

 

Version Information:

G.O.T.Y 1.07

ALL DLC

FOSE 1.02b running

 

Mod List:

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

 

Total active plugins: 6

Total plugins: 6

 

Problem:

Yet another Freeze! I'm guessing it's either DLC or HWThreads. note that I didnt use ANY kind of tweak. I will be trying out the HWThreads tweak!

 

Update

 

After playing 31minutes with Fallout 1.07 All DLC with the iHWThreads Fix I didn't encounter any single PROBLEMS!

This does indicate the problems lie in mod configuration and blablablabla

but I was able to find my problems. Thanks you for helping me isolating the problem. now I need to find a way to install a good overhaul. (FWE, WMK & EVE and others)

I will backup my ini's and this fallout catogory and do a hand by hand installation unless you got some intresseting mod configurations or link to installations!

 

*Kudos awarded for staying with me all the time*

[The1Doc]

i was going to say something that i remember hearing or reading somewhere & what it could be possibly related to, but that might get myself unintentionally banned.