Help! Crash on level-up!

[enso]

Hello to everybody!

First, excuse me for my bad english and any possible mistakes of the forum rules! I throw a fast look at them and the topics and think that here was the proper place. I thank you in advance for the understanding and the help!

 

So - about my problem!

I play Fallout 3 (1.7.) with few mods and everything goes pretty well, to the moment when i level-up. Then - black screen and throws me out of the game! :/ This hapen every time that i level up. I first start to play with just one mod pack - Fallout Wanderer. After that i add some mods for body/face textures and few for equipment. So, after this mods start the problems.

 

I save frequently so is not so huge lose, but sometimes i forget and to replay 1 hour is not nice... not nice at all. I try some possible ways to fix it (i have some experience from the time of my first installing) - like deactivating moduls and changing the order but nothing helps. The problem still stay and is bugging me very much!

And one time i just forget to invalidate the moduls (via FOMM)... and everything was fine! Well, not fine for the game (nasty textures, lost pics and maybe few more serious things), but i can level up freely! So, i really don't know did the problem is in Archive Invalidation or just in some modul that not instal well and change some "options" when the Invalidation is applyed.

 

I use Fallout 3 patch 1.7., Fose 1.1.beta9, FOMM 0.12.6. And here is the list of the moduls and order:

 

[X] Fallout3.esm

[ ] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] Project Beauty.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

[ ] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

[X] Advanced Recon Helmet.esp

[X] Advanced Recon Armor.esp

[X] 1alexscorpionsnipergear.esp

[X] backpack.esp

[X] blanket.esp

[X] t3belts_boots.esp

[X] Vanity Camera Mod.esp

 

Hm, i guess the main problem is in some modul that i instal... Some suggestions?

[LadyMilla]

Do you have Mart's Mutant Mod RC 6.1? RC 6.1 fixed the level up CTD.

[enso]

Well... i not have M.Mutant's mode! Is needed to fix this crash?

 

I really don't mind to have it, because is very nice and will add more good feeling to my game, but did will fix the problem?

E, no matter, i will try!

Thanks!

[enso]

...well... i try. And nothing obvious happen (rather that the mods pros, that are huge!). :(

I still can't level-up normally. Need to go out from the game, set Archive Invalidation to "Remove" and enter again to do so.

 

Hm... but sadly, this is not the only problem. Now i'm in Vault 112 and can't continue. The game crash exactly the same way, when i enter in the "dreaming couch"!

 

Please, help!

[LadyMilla]

...well... i try. And nothing obvious happen (rather that the mods pros, that are huge!). :(

I still can't level-up normally. Need to go out from the game, set Archive Invalidation to "Remove" and enter again to do so.

 

Hm... but sadly, this is not the only problem. Now i'm in Vault 112 and can't continue. The game crash exactly the same way, when i enter in the "dreaming couch"!

 

Please, help!

 

Do you have the latest FWE 6.03a hotfix?

 

Also, I see you are using Project Beauty - there is a compatibility patch for FWE and Project Beauty: here -> FWE_FOIP - Project Beatuy Comp Patch

 

The Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp confused me (morale: don't try to be smart when you have a headache), sorry about that. You don't need Mart's Mutant Mod RC 61 (if you like it, you can leave it installed or you can remove it - although if you leave it installed you will also need FOIP - Marts Mutant Mod and FWE. (This also included a Project Beauty compatibiilty plugin). Make sure you are using the right versions of the mods for compatibility).

 

After that, you will need to create a merged patch with FO3edit, and do a master update. This manual explains how to do it: FO3edit Training Manual (Look up merged patch and master update in the PDF file).

 

I really hope this helps, sometimes these crashes are quite difficult to fix.

 

 

 

 

 

[enso]

:) Thanks a lot!

I think i do every step as you say. Here is my new mod list:

 

[X] Fallout3.esm

[X] Anchorage.esm

[X] ThePitt.esm

[X] PointLookout.esm

[X] BrokenSteel.esm

[X] CRAFT.esm

[X] CALIBR.esm

[X] Project Beauty.esm

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

[X] Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

[X] Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

[X] backpack.esp

[X] blanket.esp

[X] t3belts_boots.esp

[X] Vanity Camera Mod.esp

[X] 1alexscorpionsnipergear.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

[X] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Halftime.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp

[ ] FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

[ ] Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

[X] Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

[X] Merged Patch.esp

 

...

 

I find a solution for the problem in Vault 112.Just deselect the Mart's Mutant Mod and enter in the dream world. After passing this quest i start them again, and there was no problem.

 

Sadly, my main problem stay unresolved. My game still crash on level-up. Guess, total reinstal will help?

I don't want to be tedious, because the problem is not big (to this moment i not find other bugs), but still it's irritate me.

 

Yep, thanks for the help and understanding!

[LadyMilla]

 

I find a solution for the problem in Vault 112.Just deselect the Mart's Mutant Mod and enter in the dream world. After passing this quest i start them again, and there was no problem.

 

Sadly, my main problem stay unresolved. My game still crash on level-up. Guess, total reinstal will help?

I don't want to be tedious, because the problem is not big (to this moment i not find other bugs), but still it's irritate me.

 

Yep, thanks for the help and understanding!

 

The Dream world is often a problem. One other thing I'd try to deactivate -- or rather -- remove is the Vanity Camera mod. Bben46 would probably agree with me, simply deactivating a mod - unless it is a single .esp file - will leave a lot of clutter behind (e.g. even if you deactivate a custom race mod, the textures that belong to that mod will stay in their subfolders in the /Data directory, and will still be loaded by the game if they override original meshes/textures).

 

Clean reinstall:

- Wipe it clean! Delete the entire Fallout 3 folder, and don't forget about the .ini files too! (Or you can make a backup for future reference, to see what changes you made before the total reinstall, that is, if you made any changes at all.).

 

I can fully understand how annoying it is - I have the same issues with EVE. After stumbling on a cool laser impact effect in a screenie I wanted to try it. Now, my game was completely stable with Book of Earache, two player house mods, three custom races, Mart's Mutant Mod, various environment changing and cosmetic mods, etc, but no matter how I tried to tweak the load list, I had crashes. So I simply gave up on EVE.

[Butsu1876]

I know this is an old post, but I was having this problem after I edited my fallout.ini file. It went away after I started a new game.

 

this is what i changed to make the problem start. this was changed to fix a different crash problem.

 

Search for "bUseThreadedAI=0" and change the value from 0 to 1.

Add another line under this and paste in "iNumHWThreads=2"

 

hope this helps someone...

Edited November 30, 2010 by Butsu1876