CTD upon loading. Quite a lot of script files, but only 4 running at the time. Help please.

[Frostelis]

Hello, I'm having a problem again (no surprise here).

 

I've installed quite a few script mods and other stuff. The game is - laggy in some places as expected, but I was never one to be bothered by some stutter as long as it goes away.

 

But the problems are a few as of now:

 

When I start a new game, my save file is already at 10mb size. After around an hour playing, it's 12mb size.

I was just wandering aimlessly in a bunch of houses, stealing s#*! with my 4 followers and BAM. CTD.

Ok, no biggie - I think to myself, I'll just reload a save I made at the tavern.

 

I load it, and upon completion of the loading process...BAM. CTD.

 

Ok this is ridiculous I think to myself. What could be the problem so early in game? Save already corrupted ?

I start up save game cleaner found on nexus: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/?

 

I check my save which is a bit over 12mb(wtf) and it says I have around 8000 script files(bsa's included), yet only four scripts are running at that time.

 

Is this enough to make a save unload-able ?

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

If you require my mod list or the like, please inform me. I am at work now, so I obviously can't copy paste it at the moment, but when I get home I can do that.

 

 

I used:

Tes5edit to clean mods

Tes5edit to merge armor/weapon esp's(works flawlesly)

Wrye bash to create a bashed patch (had to add some relev tags to some esp's)

LOOT to sort all of that crap out

No errors in loot, couple of warnings/messages about one mod requiring something and such

Wrye bash has some "orange" esp', but that's just cause they are telling me that dragonborn plugin must be BEFORE dawngard. If I replace their positions, then other esp's would become orange, so I just ignore this.

I also use Dual sheath redux/Fnis

I also use Wintermyst

Use ENBoost

SKSE 1,0,7 something alpha

Highalgoboost

Gamebooster

Ramcleaner

 

hmm Not sure if I missed something else apart from the mod list. None of my used mods are as old and not updated as 2012 except for maybe one or two weapon mods. Most of the mods are 2013-2015 updated.

 

I turned off papyrus logging to reduce script lag.

 

Most notable script mods that I use is

 

iNeed

Wet and Cold

Frostfall

Vilja

a couple of other follower mods

Warzones 2015

 

I guess my questions are:

1. can a save game be corrupted THIS early ?

2. Is 10 mb save game files size at the start of a new game considered something awful ? (I imagine if I were lucky enough to continue on with my saves it would reach epic size proportions)

3. Are 4 scripts running on load game enough to make it CTD ?

4. What should I do ?

 

I am very hesitant to remove Wet and Col and Frostfall. I could do without iNeed if push comes to shove, since even setting lowest hunger/fatigue/thirst settings my characters seems to be a food devouring blob and the followers empty their inventories of drink and foot each 10 minutes, despite me giving them 10 bottles of ale/20 foodstuff items etc. So that mod seems a bit broken, but I used it over Realistic Needs and Diseases since it's lighter and updated.

 

Any suggestions? Thanks in advance and sorry for the wall of text.

 

Kind regards.

[Frostelis]

Aw cmon' people. Anyone ?

 

At least tell me if it's normal that the save file size is that big upon game start ? And if there's anyway to lower it? What are the repercusions once it becoems much much bigger ?

[KalEl04]

im currently having the exact same problem. been dealing with it for a while now. ive went through the same troubleshooting as you and more, with the same results. my save is about the same size at start up, and ive gotten it up to 100 hours, with the load problem the whole time. 26 megs before i started a new game. dont think save size is the issue. seems more likely to crash on load in interiors. 2nd try usually loads. can always load most current save from an older one. seems to go on streaks where it will load just fine a bunch of times, then crash a bunch of times. i swear ive read every thread available on the internet about it too. no dice so far. if anyone knows the magic word to make this go away, please help us out!

[Frostelis]

Yeap, I started a new game again. Played for around 40 minutes. I hope I'll be able to laod that save when I get back home. Seeing that you managed to play up to 100 hours gives me hope, but the amoutn of saves made would be normous I suppose and skyrim is known to corrupt saves after some kind of save number reached. At least it constantly happened to me in my previous playthroughs. After I saved around 250-270 times my latest save got corrupted, so that's another issue.

 

If I get a ctd, i'll try your solution of laoding an earlier save and then loading the latest one(at least that's what it is as I understood it). As you said, the laoding times are ridiculously long(that doesn't bother me much tho). And I crashed in interior upon loading in the tavern.

[masterpoe]

i sub divided my terabyte hard drive into two volumes and copied everything skyrim related to J

then i reloaded skyrim back on C fresh and clean.

 

when i ctd [xxxxx] - the first thing i check is of course for fatal errors using tesedit . If none found,

i open my documents savegame folder copy.paste the last two 1 ess 1 skse into a seperate folder

for dragging them back ...then select all and delete the savegame folder (contents) and drag back

those same two from my temp folder taking note: of their number and that usually solves the problem for me.

you can always go into your trashcan and "restore" a save game or two.

[Frostelis]

i sub divided my terabyte hard drive into two volumes and copied everything skyrim related to J

then i reloaded skyrim back on C fresh and clean.

 

when i ctd [xxxxx] - the first thing i check is of course for fatal errors using tesedit . If none found,

i open my documents savegame folder copy.paste the last two 1 ess 1 skse into a seperate folder

for dragging them back ...then select all and delete the savegame folder (contents) and drag back

those same two from my temp folder taking note: of their number and that usually solves the problem for me.

you can always go into your trashcan and "restore" a save game or two.

 

 

Tis a solution for corrupted saves ??? I'll keep that in mind. Thanks

Edited March 27, 2015 by Frostelis

[KalEl04]

hmm i dont really believe that our saves are corrupted... only because i can load any problem save by loading a different save, then the problem one. works fine, but is annoying. also like i say, i made it 100 hours with no other problems in my game. after all of this, im wondering if we did a bad install of a mod somewhere maybe? my load order was very close to being stable, and then out of seemingly nowhere it started crashing on load. even from a new game.

[Frostelis]

I'll have to check my new game out this weekend. So far so good. I'm just hoping it was a one time quirck. I've remoded and reinstalled skyrim over 15 times in these past years. All the time modding it, cleaning, ensurign everything usually took me about 4-6 days. But seems no matter how careful, something always comes up to fook up the game. I'll report back if my skyrim will give me a hard time again. (Would actually like to finish the game at least once lel)