Driving me crazy

[Sunjah]

I hope someone can help me here. I just reinstalled TES IV after about 2 years of not playing. I love all the mods I have, everything appears to be working, EXCEPT: the messages in the upper left corner of the HUD, the "autosaving", "you have discovered..." , "you are hungry", time announcements, all of that information stuff that I want is simply gone. I hear the clock tick, but get no time display. I hear the drinking, but no "you are not thirsty" or "you are stuffed" messages.

 

I like those messages and feel shorthanded without them. I have between 50-100 mods and no idea which one has set it this way.

 

Is it possible to make a mod that simply "TURNS ON" all messages in the upper-left, or is there someone to identify what controls it (eg, hud_mainmenu_config.xml)?

 

I am going crazy missing all that information!

 

Thanks in advance,

Jason

[majikmonkee]

"You are hungry"? I'm guessing that's part of a mod, I don't get that one. That's kind of odd, though, it does sound like some sort of a mod conflict there. I didn't see any existing mods dealing with fixing this.

[Deleted1662706User]

Can you list your Mod load order? That way, we might be able to identify what the problem is.

[Sunjah]

Can you list your Mod load order? That way, we might be able to identify what the problem is.

 

Sure, here it is (a quick count gave me 107):

(also, does anyone know what directly controls that particular item, such as "setting" in menu folder can allow you to change the color of on-screen text...I would love to know what commands the "Notifications" because if I had to I could go mod by mod and check for that command to activate it)

 

 

Oblivion.esm

 

AWS-Core.esm

 

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

 

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

 

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm

 

Better Cities Resources.esm

 

Open Cities Resources.esm

 

HorseCombatMaster.esm

 

Cobl Main.esm

 

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

 

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

 

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

 

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

 

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

 

Shivering Isles - Activation Popup.esp

 

Better Cities .esp

 

LoadingScreens.esp

 

LoadingScreensAddOn.esp

 

AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp

 

AWS-Shorter Nights.esp

 

Natural_Weather_with_darker_Nights_by_Max_Tael.esp

 

Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

 

Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

 

WindowLightingSystem.esp

 

Brighter_Torches.esp

 

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

 

ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp

 

Days&Months.esp

 

Quick Wardrobe.esp

 

Living Economy.esp

 

Living Economy - Items.esp

 

Cutthroat Merchants.esp

 

FF_Real_Thirst.esp

 

Map Marker Overhaul.esp

 

Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp

 

DLCHorseArmor.esp

 

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

DLCOrrery.esp

 

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

DLCVileLair.esp

 

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

 

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

DLCSpellTomes.esp

 

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

console codes.esp

 

RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp

 

FF_Horse_Whistle.esp

 

DLCThievesDen.esp

 

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

 

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

 

OOO-Water_Weeds.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creature Skins.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Foxes.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp

 

Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO+FCOM.esp

 

LoadingScreens-OOO.esp

 

301_Compass.esp

 

Scribe Supplies.esp

 

VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

 

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

 

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

DLCFrostcrag.esp

 

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

Knights.esp

 

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

 

xuldarkforest.esp

 

xulStendarrValley.esp

 

xulTheHeath.esp

 

XulEntiusGorge.esp

 

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

 

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

 

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

 

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

 

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

 

xulLushWoodlands.esp

 

xulAncientYews.esp

 

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

 

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

 

xulArriusCreek.esp

 

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

 

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

 

xulPantherRiver.esp

 

xulRiverEthe.esp

 

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

 

xulImperialIsle.esp

 

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

 

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

 

xulAspenWood.esp

 

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

 

Open Cities New Sheoth.esp

 

Open Cities Outer Districts.esp

 

Open Cities Full.esp

 

Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

 

Harvest [Flora].esp

 

Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp

 

Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp

 

Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp

 

P1DkeyChain.esp

 

RH 1.5.5 - Original Alchemy Edition.esp

 

RH 1.5.5 Original Alchemy Edition MMM Patch.esp

 

SM Encumbrance and Fatigue.esp

 

StumbleRunningBackwards.esp

 

RealSleep.esp

 

MidasSpells.esp

 

Midas OscuroGems.esp

 

MidasSpellTomes.esp

 

Midas Betterholy.esp

 

Midas Eldrich Power 2x.esp

 

Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp

 

Midas BeastFortify Fix OBSE.esp

 

sr_spell_deletion.esp

 

Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

 

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

 

Better Cities Full.esp

 

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

 

Better Imperial City.esp

 

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

 

Better Cities - COBL.esp

 

Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

 

OOO-Respawn_Two_Week.esp

 

Real Hunger, Cobl.esp

 

Streamline 3.1.esp

 

xulSnowdale.esp

 

Mana.esp

 

Think to Yourself.esp

 

AIOSOsDandD_Portable_Hole26.esp

 

Enhanced Hotkeys.esp

 

Torch Hotkey.esp

 

RBRS with Initial Burst.esp

 

Quest Log Manager.esp

 

ToggleNightEye.esp

 

AWS-Water.esp

 

AWS-Main.esp

 

AWS-Tweaks.esp

 

Cobl Glue.esp

 

Cobl Si.esp

 

Cobl Tweaks.esp

 

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

 

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

 

MMM-Cobl.esp

 

ImmersiveHealthIndication.esp

 

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Here is a list of active OMOD's:

 

Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul COMPLETE 1.33.omod

Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul COMPLETE 1.33

BOSS 1.5.omod BOSS 1.5

Cobl 1.72.omod Cobl 1.72 Cobl Team

Roberts_Female_Body_v12_Nude_OMOD-34382.omod

Un Oblivion v3.2.0.omod UnofficialOblivionPatchv3.2.0 3.2.0

Un Official DLC v.1.5.omod UnofficialOfficialModsPatchv15.omod 15

Un Shiv_Isles v1.4.omod UnofficialShiveringIslesPatchv1.4.0 1.4.0 Q

UnofficialPatchSupplementals.omod 332.omod

Map Marker Overhaul 3.8.omod Map Marker Overhaul 3.8

Male body Nude OMOD 1.0.omod Male body Nude OMOD 1.0

Full_Landscape_LOD_Textures_Replacement_v1.0_OMOD.omod

Qarl_TP3_Full_v1.3_OMOD.omod Qarl_TP3_Full_v1.3_OMOD 1.3

Better Cities 4.8.0.omod Better Cities 4.8.0

Better Cities Resources 4.8.0.omod Better Cities Resources 4.8.0

Better Cities Permanent Resources 4.7.0.omod

Animated Window Lighting System - Meshes 5.3.5.omod

Keychain 5.0.omod Keychain

Tweaked AWS 2.5.omod Tweaked AWS 2.5

Atmospheric Weather System 2.10.omod

Atmospheric Weather System 2.1.omod

DarNified UI 1.3.2.omod DarNified UI 1.3.2

Enhanced Hotkeys 1.4.omod

Torch Hotkey 1.1.omod

Immersive Health Indication 1.2.1.omod

LoadingScreens-OOO 1.1.omod LoadingScreens-OOO 1.1

Quest Log Manager 1.3.2.omod

Unique Landscapes Compilation 1.6.0.omod

Modular_Midas_OMOD-32952.omod

 

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New mod 1.0.omod new mod 1.0

(I assembled the above mod, it is MMM, and I didn't realize I would have to name it)

*****************************************************

 

NightEyeToggle(1.0).omod

Nighteye shader Replacement 1.1.omod

END

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THANKS FOR THE HELP, I HOPE I CAN GET THIS SOLVED QUICKLY!!!

Jason

Edited November 27, 2010 by Sunjah

[Sunjah]

hudsubtitlemenu_config.xml

 

 

When I removed literally everything, I found that this menu was the one controlling those messages in the upper left. Then I reinstalled all the menus the way I want, then this one, and there were NO messages in the upper left.

 

Mostly, I have real thirst, hunger and sleep, and I never know WHEN I am TIRED, HUNGRY or THIRSTY! I am starting to get so pissed with this. Somewhere, somehow, in some way, some (beep) altered this without saying how or why, and now they are blocked.

 

ALL I WANT IS THE BLOODY DAMNED MESSAGES THAT TELL YOU INFORMATION YOU NEED. I don't care if it bugged someone else, don't turn off VITAL information and not tell anyone.

Edited November 28, 2010 by Sunjah

[Smooth613]

I personally think it's more to do with the order you are installing mods that might alter that menu. Remember the last mod you install "wins". Something is most likely overwriting the changes that should be made by these mods, or you installed them incorrectly. I use Real Sleep Extended and it works just fine. I've also used other hunger and thirst mods that have worked fine with over 200 other mods installed, including UI mods like DarNified.

 

I'm fairly confident that "Somewhere, somehow, in some way, some (beep) altered this without saying how or why, and now they are blocked." is Sunjah screwing up the installation. I could be wrong but I highly doubt it since these mods haven't changed in ages.

 

• FF Real Thirst: Hasn't changed since 2007
  
• Real Hunger: Hasn't changed since 2006
  
• Real Sleep: Hasn't changed since 2006
  

So the only other possibility for why it's not working properly? User error. So next time before you childishly lash out at others you may want to put yourself in check first.

 

Also, you have Cobl installed so why not use the Cobl versions?

[Sunjah]

Hey, that's great. A really frustrated person, and you respond by insulting and blaming. Why did you answer the stupid thing if all you were going to do was be an ass?

 

I found a post by "Darn" (yes, THE DARN, on his own forum) that explained exactly what the problem was, in one of his *.xml file there was a spot where he said to turn shadows false.

 

Guess what, it worked! Everything is fine now, so I will take the 3 insults and 2 judgemental accustations and shove them in the toilet, which is where they belong.

 

I'll never understand why idiots like you feel it is okay to come to something they are VOLUNTEERING to do (no one asked you for your horrible response), and then act like a complete moron.

 

One thing, game fixed, everything is fine.

 

Second thing, you are and will always still be an ass!

[Smooth613]

I can overlook your insults, no big deal. I didn't insult or necessarily "blame" you. However I did state what I thought the problem was. That's what you came here for right? A solution?

 

I'm not going to bicker back and forth with you on each comment you just made. It's not worth it. I will only make a few statement regarding the issue.

 

It turned out I was correct in my first few statements.

I personally think it's more to do with the order you are installing mods that might alter that menu. Remember the last mod you install "wins". Something is most likely overwriting the changes that should be made by these mods, or you installed them incorrectly.

 

So it was your mistake by overwriting the menu(s) placed by the "Realism" mod(s) with DaN's. Or, as you found out, you need to tweak the settings if you use DarN's UI. So a "conflict" occurred. Tweaking settings is common practice to achieve compatibility with multiple UI altering mods. We've all screwed up an installation of a mod at least once, probably many more times, or made simple user errors.

 

Either way you solved the problem by correcting mistakes. It happens to all of us, move on.

[chakaru11]

Whoa.

 

Yes, the guys here (me included, I tend to help out too) are doing this voluntarily, that is right. But if anyone caused the shift in atmosphere from helpful to annoyed it was YOU with that childish tantrum in the post after your load order. Pointing fingers and ranting about "someone changing something without telling you" and venting your anger here like it is OUR fault does NOT make people want to help you!

I totally get that you were pissed off, Oblivion hacks itself to pieces on a weekly basis. But is it too much to ask to maybe vent your anger elsewhere BEFORE you post here? Nobody here really insulted you, everything that was posted was a reaction to your tantrum. Mods that have not been edited since 2006 don't suddenly change just to piss you off and Smooth613 was totally right to assume that it might be your load/installation order screwing something up. He never accused you of anything, YOU were pointing fingers. Which is kind of ironic, because after you found out that it way really YOU who overwrote the menus because of a mod conflict (which means that Smooth was RIGHT) you were still raging like a 10 year old, accusing him of insulting you.

 

Way to go. I'll never understand how

idiots like you

can act like that and still think they are right AND expect people to help them. Grow up!

[bben46]

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