mellophonist Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I have a very peculiar problem as of late. Whenever I loot gold from corpses or any chests of any kind my game ctd's I use the Skyrim coin replacer redux mod that adds the dwemer and ancient nord coins to the game. On top of that I use PerMa and I have a patch between the two mods. I'm not sure what is causing these random crashes as I play the game fine in every other aspect. I run the game between 40 (in only the heaviest areas like cities and Falkreath forest) and 60 fps everywhere else. I don't get any other crashes of any kind, its only whenever I loot anything and from what I've tested its only coins. Here is my load order Skyrim.esmCRC: C665FD56Update.esmCRC: 6C9DEE4C.Location, Delev, Invent, RelevUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espCRC: 94947FF0Version: 2.1.0C.Acoustic, C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.ImageSpace, C.Light, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, StatsDawnguard.esmCRC: 31F95958C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, SoundUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espCRC: 40D36D86Version: 2.1.0C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, StatsHearthFires.esmCRC: 33181BF4C.Location, Graphics, InventUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espCRC: CB70CD07Version: 2.1.0C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, C.Water, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, StatsDragonborn.esmCRC: 1AEEF06C.Location, Graphics, Invent, NamesUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espCRC: EE99B7F1Version: 2.1.0C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, StatsRSkyrimChildren.esmCRC: 8405286FRaceCompatibility.esmCRC: D0528810ETaC - RESOURCES.esmCRC: FA823B6FNock2Tip.esmCRC: B6C1D632ClimatesOfTamriel.esmCRC: 918881A7Version: 3.1ApachiiHair.esmCRC: 783F7167Version: 1.4The Ningheim.espCRC: 68AD1182HighResTexturePack01.espCRC: D596F02AHighResTexturePack02.espCRC: D596F02AHighResTexturePack03.espCRC: D596F02AUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espCRC: 7EBC542Version: 1.1.9[KijikoHair_MalePack].espCRC: 8DED6E10When Vampires Attack.espCRC: 8C43D3E8Version: 2.0.3RSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.espCRC: A2F2BE2CVersion: 1.1.0female mannequins.espCRC: ED4C86E2WATER.espCRC: 49A15B26Version: 1.87WetandCold.espCRC: E034A81FVersion: 1.321StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.espCRC: FBFBE09CSkyUI.espCRC: 9330CAF7Version: 4.1LessIntrusiveHUD.espCRC: C87F1297Version: 1.1Dual Sheath Redux.espCRC: 49778E0AchieveThat.espCRC: 9E2FF613Version: 3.2.1dragonpriestmasks.espCRC: 8BAB506ESHARPE Housecarls.espCRC: 14F1C6C1Sexier Housecarls.espCRC: F6DC42DSoul Trap Redone.espCRC: C01C319AVersion: 2.0.1RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.espCRC: 4A751DD1RaceMenu.espCRC: 2765B7D0Lock Overhaul.espCRC: 3FB2EDFAquieter_spiders.espCRC: 4035906AVersion: 1.0The Coenaculi.espCRC: 128C38D9Animated Dragon Wings.espCRC: 785C2901No Magic Ninja Dodge.espCRC: 73574275Reweighed Potions.espCRC: 1DC7D39DdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espCRC: 910FBBFmancika_templarset.espCRC: 337CDA4EiHUD.espCRC: 6098B756Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espCRC: 9229A0B4ProperWeaponScale.espCRC: 51FC22F6Headtracking.espCRC: 2856EB9FNorthgirl.espCRC: 548C3F53VioLens.espCRC: 9E2A3248Version: 1.21StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.espCRC: FA28D596AHZmoreHUD.espCRC: D340E330Version: 2.1.3EbonyValkyrie.espCRC: C68167FFDr_BandolierDG.espCRC: E6116C26Differently Ebony.espCRC: 4DEB61E7CrimsonTwilightArmor.espCRC: DFBF16B6CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.espCRC: C70F65ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.espCRC: 9FFF2A85Version: 3.1WetandCold - Ashes.espCRC: 8C003085Version: 1.06ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.espCRC: 6DEDE258Version: 3.1ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.espCRC: 75A1B6EAVersion: 3.1ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound-Dawnguard-Patch.espCRC: DA95740EHearthfireMultiKid.espCRC: 534F45A6HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.espCRC: 4BA30BB0RaceMenuPlugin.espCRC: 8A8A009RealisticHuskySounds.espCRC: EC224E75DeadlyMonsters.espCRC: 1FCAC1D0Auto Unequip Ammo.espCRC: 4B399546EK_RingLimiter.espCRC: 4E44A8B5FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espCRC: EBD99340BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.espCRC: 3531878EThe Coenaculi_Makeup.espCRC: EBC15D22EnhancedLightsandFX.espCRC: 2F17264ETaC - Complete.espCRC: 75919E9FPiratelords Loot Adjustments.espCRC: AD58FA6CDelev, RelevAMB Glass Variants Lore.espCRC: A6C0975CDelev, RelevELFX - Exteriors.espCRC: C4817E64proudspiremanortnf.espCRC: 31D3A78BELFX - Dawnguard.espCRC: 8692787AETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.espCRC: 426756B6ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.espCRC: 61C50D1Skyrim Immersive Creatures.espCRC: F68C9890Version: v6.5.2aDelev, RelevBetter Vampires.espCRC: 925A607TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.espCRC: AAEE23BFGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espCRC: AFACD2EWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espCRC: F7B2BC5Version: 5.0Delev, Names, Relev, StatsTERAArmors_CBBE.espCRC: A6BE21AClothing & Clutter Fixes.espCRC: 175581E1Version: 1.3Delev, Names, Relev, StatsRSChildren - Complete.espCRC: 23B038FERSChildren_PatchUSKP.espCRC: 509B3972BlackSacramentDBReplacer.espCRC: 8146FE50Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espCRC: A4E43BB4Version: 1.5Delev, Names, Relev, Statshjerimtnf.espCRC: 5B490F4APerkusMaximus_Master.espCRC: 2E9CDD29NamesPerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.espCRC: AAF6D71CPre PaMa WAFR CCOR Patch.espCRC: 52DCC8EDDelev, Names, StatsPerkusMaximus_Mage.espCRC: 2160D362NamesBetterQuestObjectives.espCRC: C71C862DAmazingFollowerTweaks.espCRC: D6C72A3CImmersive Weapons.espCRC: 9EF26819Delev, RelevWeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.espCRC: 79C7AB7CUnique Uniques.espCRC: 51024687Version: 1.8GraphicsN2T IW.espCRC: CF0B7A37TimingIsEverything.espCRC: 41044161Run For Your Lives.espCRC: 1931B1F5Version: 1.2.3BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.espCRC: 39EA9697BetterQuestObjectives-AFTPatch.espCRC: 2F3183ACBetterQuestObjectives-TimingIsEverythingPatch.espCRC: C30A66A4BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.espCRC: EB7D5B73DeadlyDragons.espCRC: E8F826EADelev, RelevETaC - Complete RS Patch.espCRC: DCFAF969ELFX - Dragonborn.espCRC: DB9BE7F9BVFE_Serana.espCRC: 32C2B7DFPumpingIron.espCRC: 3B6D5DADBetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.espCRC: 66E9EC89Book Covers Skyrim.espCRC: AA9BA3CDELFX and Exteriors - ETaC Hotfix.espCRC: 9D99CED8ELFX - ETaC Hotfix.espCRC: E30D381BWATER DG.espCRC: 98E09DC8Version: 1.87VHTNF.espCRC: BA173289DawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.espCRC: 3E85DB1AELFXEnhancer.espCRC: 31D9D865zz_GDRAHoods.espCRC: 971F00B5RevampedExteriorFog.espCRC: C2B2BCF1Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.espCRC: C4B20241BHTNF_Eli.espCRC: 3B130E77Dr_Bandolier.espCRC: E3FB152BHoneysideTNF.espCRC: 974DCDFCSkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.espCRC: 3A657592DelevPerkusMaximus_Thief.espCRC: AFB15337Names, StatsSkyFalls Plus SkyMills - All DLC.espCRC: 4040AFD0PerkusMaximus_Warrior.espCRC: 2C84E7CBNamesNock2Tip.espCRC: 4E37FAD7Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.espCRC: 7DF9A1ECThunderchild - Epic Shout Package.espCRC: 586B2F7Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espCRC: 37A6F2FAVersion: v6.5.2aDelev, RelevMoonAndStar_MAS.espCRC: E19B3101Immersive Whiterun.espCRC: B3BB7D3AImmersive Solstheim.espCRC: B202DDFFMorskom.espCRC: 43A5D8FSky Haven Temple Restored.espCRC: 2C04DE1AMord Sith Cara.espCRC: 5AA58D5AMorskomPatchETAC - Complete.espCRC: CD3D9F02Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espCRC: 8CA9DC50Version: 7.1Delev, Relev1nivWICCloaks.espCRC: E587A533Version: 2.3RelevOmegared99-GalleryOfArmor.espCRC: B84FED2BCivil War Repairs.espCRC: 28840D9WATER DB Waves.espCRC: 1DC28BDCVersion: 1.87BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.espCRC: 61BCAC04TheChoiceIsYours.espCRC: 5E9DC415Version: 1.4BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.espCRC: A0DE34CCNightingale Hall.espCRC: 3CF50EB2ScopedBows.espCRC: 281238B4Version: 1.6_LEGENDARYHalamshiral.espCRC: 9B7609FFImmersive Orc Strongholds.espCRC: D3DD4ABEMeekoVigilanceAreHuskies.espCRC: F5610DB7Marriable Serana.espCRC: 3570F88CVersion: 1.6.2Ekkii Spouse Life.espCRC: 5024E699ELFX - NoBreezehome.espCRC: 32C287F7BooksOfSkyrim.espCRC: DA19878AMarriable Serana HF.espCRC: 9610632BVersion: 1.6.2aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espCRC: 4B3CBB77Unique Uniques WAFR Patch.espCRC: 1DC7FB2BVersion: 1.8RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.espCRC: D5E6C5E4WeaponsArmorFixes_ambSkyforge_Patch.espCRC: F85CBEFAWeapons & Armor_DragonPriestMasks.espCRC: 768246E2BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.espCRC: A9808D92StaticMeshImprovementMod.espCRC: 7985AB43Pre PaMa SiC Patch.espCRC: 5C75723DNamesDisparity.espCRC: BFE1B25CVersion: 1.3More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.espCRC: FA55F8A3More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.espCRC: 630CB736Thunderchild - PerMa Compatibility Patch.espCRC: 9BA74921SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux_PermaPatch.espCRC: 73D6ED54DelevBook Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.espCRC: 8F56DE23Version: 1.7DragonFastTravelRedone.espCRC: B41F5DD7ETaC - Whiterun Ext ELFX Patch.espCRC: 7A1BFCE6WATER Plants.espCRC: E45D9321Version: 1.87The Paarthurnax Dilemma.espCRC: 9BA892A1Version: 1.2.8DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.espCRC: EB03F506Brevi_MoonlightTales.espCRC: 1FFEAB36iNeed.espCRC: E70954CFVersion: 1.51R18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.espCRC: B8727D9BBlackSacramentArmor.espCRC: D43D432BvMYC_MeetYourCharacters.espCRC: 9238F104Apocalypse - The Spell Package.espCRC: 29342A6FTheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.espCRC: 8BD6B852Black Overlord Armor Set.espCRC: 76B3F5C5Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.espCRC: 81C29F23Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.espCRC: 103D40E3Apocalypse - More Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.espCRC: CE740BE2iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.espCRC: B50EE1B1BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightPatch.espCRC: C7EF0649BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.espCRC: 80F21D2DMoonAndStar_WATERPlants_compat.espCRC: FC63CA7DMorskomPatchCOT.espCRC: 2F399A8ALustmordVampireArmor.espCRC: FC9B212ABCSLL-SKYREorPERMA Patch.espCRC: 28E2E9E5Alternate Start - Live Another Life.espCRC: D0F8ABECVersion: 2.3.4C.LocationBetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.espCRC: 40EF5329Pre PaMa CCF Patch.espCRC: 7394F6F6Names, StatsBashed Patch, 0.espCRC: 98F4C471Version: 232Automatic Variants.espCRC: 3F090A1BPatchusMaximus.espCRC: 9EC94B57Dual Sheath Redux Patch.espCRC: 8C9AE61CPCEA - 0 - DG and DB DLC - All Races.espCRC: AFF418CA Version Information LOOT Version 0.6.1 Masterlist Updating Enabled Masterlist Revision 772d8e564 Masterlist Date 2015-03-20 Plugin & Message Counts Active Plugins 207 Dirty Plugins 1 Total Plugins 207 Warnings 1 Errors 0 Total Messages 12 Note: Latest LOOT thread.Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.Note: A dynamically created plugin is installed. Please refer to the authors notes for more information on determining the best load order.Note: It appears you have Fores New Idles in Skyrim installed. Remember to run GenerateFNISforUsers.exe every time you have installed or de-installed FNIS, or a FNIS based mod. Heres the esps in all the patches Bashed Patch:Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDragonborn.esmNock2Tip.esmPiratelords Loot Adjustments.espAMB Glass Variants Lore.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espBlack Sacrament DB Replacer.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espSkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espPerkusMaximus_Master.espImmersive Weapons.espHothTropper44_ArmorCompilation.esp1nivWICCloaks.espBook Covers Skyrimm - Lost Library.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espAutomatic Variants Patch:Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawngaurd.esmHearthfire.esmDragonborn.esmThe Ningheim.espETaC - Complete.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.espBetter Vampires.espThunderchild - Epic Shout Package.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espMoonAndStar_MAS.espPerkusMaximus_Master.espDeadlyDragons.espImmersive Weapons.espBrevi_MoonlightTales.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espApocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.espBlack Overlord Armor Set.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espDual Sheath Redux Patch:Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawngaurd.esmHearthfire.esmDragonborn.esmETAC - Resources.esmDifferently Ebony.espPiratelords Loot Adjustments.espAMB Glass Variants Lore.espmancika_templarset.espDual Sheath Redux.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.espBetter Vampires.espThunderchild - Epic Shout Package.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espMoonAndStar_MAS.espPerkusMaximus_Master.espPerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.espImmersive Weapons.espHothTropper44_ArmorCompilation.espaMiddianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espNightingale Hall.espBlackSacramentArmor.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espApocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.espBlack Overlord Armor Set.espPatchus Maximus Patch:Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawngaurd.esmUnofficial Dawngaurd Patch.espHearthfire.esmDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espNock2Tip.esmETAC - Resources.esmRaceCompatability.esmRSkyrimChildren.esmThe Ningheim.espBVFE_Serana.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espDeadlyMonsters.espCrimsonTwilightArmor.espDifferently Ebony.espDR_BandolierDG.espEbonyValkyrie.espETaC - Complete.espViolens.espNorthgirl.espHeadtraking.espPiratelords Loot Adjustments.espAMB Glass Variants Lore.espETaC - Dragon Bridge South.espETaC - Complete RS Patch.espmancika_templarset.espReweighed Potions.espGaurd DIalouge Overhaul.espSHARPE Housecarls.espDragonpreistmasks.espWetandCold.espWetandCold - Ashes.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espTERAARmors_CBBE.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espBlackSacramentDBReplacer.espRSChildren - complete.espRSChildren_PatchUSKP.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espDawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.espBetter Vampires.espDR_Bandolier.espDwemer Goggles & Scouter.espThunderchild - Epic Shout Package.espMore Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.espDisparity.espRSChildren_NonPlayableOverride.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espPre PerMa SiC Patch.espMoonAndStar_MAS.espImmersive Whiterun.espImmersive Solstheim.espMorskom.espMord Sith Cara.espPerkusMaximus_Master.espDeadlyDragons.espPre PerMa WAFR CCOR Patch.espPerkusMaximus_theif.espPerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.espPerkusMaximus_Mage.espN2T IW.espNock2Tip.espWeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.espHothTropper44_ArmorCompilation.espaMiddianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espNightingale Hall.espBellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp1nivWICCloaks.espOmegared99-GalleryofArmor.espTheChoiceIsYours.espHalamshiral.espMeekoVigilanceAreHuskies.espImmmersive Orc Strongholds.espBooksOfSkyrim.espDragonFastTravelRedone.espThePaarthunaxDilemma.espDragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.espBrevi_MoonlightTales.espiNeed.espBlackSacramentArmor.espvMYC_MeetYourCharacters.espR18Pn - Eisen Platte Armor.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espApocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch.espApocalypse - More Apocalypse.espApocalypse - More Apocalypse -PerMa Compatibility Patch.espBlack Overlord Armor Set.espLustmordVampireArmor.espUnique Uniques.espScopedBows.espUnique Uniques WAFR Patch.espWeaponsArmorFixes_ambSkyforge_Patch.espWeapons & Armor_DragonPreistMasks.espzz_GDRAHoods.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espBashed Patch, 0.espAutomatic Variants.esp(phew that took forever to type! :P) Hope that's all the information you need! Thanks for any help on the issue, its a very particular problem but maybe its something really small I'm over looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHutch003 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Try reinstalling any mods that change the coins themselves or the sound of coins being taken from the inventory. It seems like there's a missing file somewhere that's causing your game to crash when you attempt to remove the coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellophonist Posted March 22, 2015 Author Share Posted March 22, 2015 Ill definitely give that a shot but it seems to be random, for example Ill be playing for about 5 minutes and I loot coins no problem but then at random when I loot coins it'll crash. Thanks for the suggestion though! I'll let you know if it does work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowpattydaddy Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Update Disparity to latest version 1.4. That fixed my problem with inventory CTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellophonist Posted March 23, 2015 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 Ah I just got back from a trip so I might have to try that as well. That Author is awesome about patching bugs really quickly I had another bug related to that mod and it was fixed before I realized I was even having the problem! >_< Thanks for yall's help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellophonist Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Unfortunately updating disparity did not solve the issue. Also I've been doing some more testing and its now not only coins that are causing crashes, but other items as well. For example the most recent crash I picked up a staff with a wintermyst enchantment on it and that crashed the game. I'm beginning to suspect that PerMa may be the culprit. My crashes have all been items affected by PerMa, all the vanilla items I've picked up like arrows and armor have all been fine. Yet the strangest thing of all is that its completely at random. In one scenario I picked up a dwemer coin (one of the coins that causes crashes) and it didnt crash so I thought I may have solved my problem but not even minutes later I picked up the same coin and my game crashed. I'm at a complete loss as of what to do besides maybe just going back to SkyRe, but I would rather not as that would mean re-downloading all the patches I need for SkyRe and having to restart my game for the third time in less then a couple of weeks. I'm gonna hold of on doing that for a couple of days and play some inquisition, but hopefully someone might have a solution or PerMa might have a new version out that solves the problem. Anyway thanks in advance for any help and thanks to the people that have already given me some help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlequinnine Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Had a very similar experience myself but even arrows were crashing me occasionally. I did figure a work around (sort of) ,, if you are opening up a corpse for loot , press R and loot all then dump what you dont want. Its picky and annoying but it saved me about 75% of crashes until i auto crashedwhen distance travelling (even by cart) so decided to reload everything in Perma from scratch. If i get a stable ill let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellophonist Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Thanks Ill give that a shot, its way better then crashing every time I open a menu :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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