Outside areas not loading properly

[adman85]

I've notice that sometimes areas won't load properly (just north of goodsprings, novac) when I run to them as opposed to fast travel (well it hasnt happened on fast travel yet)

Is this a common problem, or something specific?

 

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[WastelandAssassin]

wow, i've never seen things like that (i have some problems of areas not rendering too well, but not like this)

 

does it happen in specific areas only??

also, has this always happened when going there, or is it random??

and last of all, do you have mods that change the area??

because i can tell you that i had some problems like this (like in Goodsprings, when doing the bounty for New Vegas Bounties, the ground just before the gas station had a hole in it, just like in one of your pics, but it never happened again, just when doing that bounty)

[secksegai]

Pretty sure it be the result of modding, though in my situations, instead of empty space I got huge holes in the world where one could fall endlessly. In those situations, it appeared to be the result of a "performance" mod removing certain elements from the world (which I think caused an issue with the collision geometry) and resulted in said problem. Something as simple as deleting rocks....

 

Might want to go through your list, uncheck any performance type mods and see if the problem persists.

[adman85]

Thanks for the advice guys, a performance mod you say.. I think I have one on there.

I also have New Vegas Bounties..

The problem is, that 90% of the time if I quit out and restart the game it will work fine anyway.. So narrowing it down might take a while.

 

And Assassin, it has happened mostly at novac, but once or twice on the road north of goodsprings (the one that leads to that nasty nest of cazadors)

Bounties is the only mod i have that adds things that i'm not sure where they are, and none of my other mods even go near novac..

Edited December 5, 2010 by adman85

[WastelandAssassin]

well, i can't say that i have had such problems there, but i rarely walk around (too much time wasted, and i probably won't find anything new in that area anyhow)

so i can't say that i know of anything that could do this

i also have a performance mod, and yet i don't have such problems, so it might not be this

 

one thing, and this is strictly a guess

is your computer not so strong, and you are running the game on high settings??

because i would assume that if the game needs to load several areas, and it would weigh heavily on your computer, it might cause such problems (again, this is strictly a guess. i have very limited knowledge on computers and on the game loading new cells and such, so take this as a shot in the dark, and nothing more)

[adman85]

Well i'm running it at the recommended level (and personally i can live with scaling back some things, like i've got shadows completely clipped and water aint so pretty, but losing high res is not gonna happen)

One thing I remembered, I have some things (perks mostly) that change movement speed (i think it maxes at about 1.6 normal speed, i'm at about 1.25 at the mo), maybe when you move too fast areas don't load right? Does that sound right? I would think it would just mean objects and actors would load late.

I'm testing without the performance one first, but like I said, I won't know until it happens again.

I guess after that i'll nerf my graphics for a while o_0 .. But lets hope it doesn't come to that.

Edited December 5, 2010 by adman85

[WastelandAssassin]

like i said, this was a shot in the dark, and it is probably just rubbish, but sometimes even rubbish is worth checking.........

 

but i really hope you will find a solution that doesn't involve lowering the graphics and such

[secksegai]

Speed could be a factor, as you might just be getting to the zone faster than it can load. Otherwise I'd check the notes/description/readme on that performance or any performance enhancing mod - the only one that has ever given me trouble removed some small rocks the author swore had no purpose in game other than decoration, yet when receiving several complaints about the game spawning major holes (again not quite what you're experiencing) he blamed it on the game creating them and not his mod. When you could resolve the problem simply by deactivating the mod.... Most performance enhancing mods don't do anything that would affect the game world scenery and collision geometry or anything like that, so unless you're using the same mod I was, it should be fine. I run two now because I have no idea what global was changed otherwise I'd just put them in one of my custom esps.

 

But what's your framerate when running around, do you have a utility that could display it in realtime in your drivers perhaps?

 

I'm doubtful that its simply a matter of getting there too quick, but its possible.

[JimmyFury]

heeey I just ran into the same thing!

I don't have a performance mod and the only mods I have, I believe, that edit Novac are Electro City and possibly Project 13 Populated Wasteland. (I can see you don't have Electro City so that's out.)

 

However, I did some poking around just now and it seems IIRW (intrusive invisible wall remover) might have had a conflict that was causing it. Someone else on it's thread mentioned the same thing and resolved it by moving IIRW to the top of his load order. Worked for him and it seems to have worked for me as well.

 

Then again, this was the first time I found it so if exiting and restarting the game also makes the hole go away then that could just be a coincidence... But if you have IIRW then maybe that's the source?

[Fonger]

just went on a legion massacre rampage

 

started in Novac

 

fast travel around the area to all known legion sites (2 towns, mine and several camps)

 

ended up walking back to Novac through the viper camp

 

Motel was there, but as I approached it vanished

(yes it was seen to disappear)

 

large hole in the ground like your images

 

fast travel to Novac - in the water

 

fast travel to nearby, then back to Novac -- In the water

 

fast travel to Goodsprings, , then back to Novac

 

standing next to the Motel

 

First time my mod order caused this in Novac

 

may be an engine bug rather than a mod cause

 

newest mod was --- wait a minute that mod wasn't even loaded

this is the stable order been using for some time

 

Yes I'm convinced this is an engine bug not mod related.