Concerning Basic Items In Oblivion

[bryman1970]

Concerning stolen items and merchants who shouldn't know they're stolen, I just found this comment from Delte's List thread:

 

FINDERS KEEPERS! Another thing that bothers me in the game is that, after you successfully steal something, it always remains marked as stolen. You can't sell it, unless you're in the Thieves Guild (or have a mod that tweaks the game), and it will be confiscated if you are apprehended by the Legion. Well, the console command you need to solve this problem is: SetOwnership. Let's say you have a pair of gauntlets you stole. If you want to make them yours, take them out of your inventory by dropping them on the ground, open your console, select them, then type the command and hit enter. Viola, you own the gauntlets. BE WARNED, THOUGH! HAVE SOME RESTRAINT. Like most of the console commands, they can be abused and used as cheats. There's nothing stopping you from stealing until your heart is content, then marking everything as yours, then selling it for the coin without having to join the theives guild and using a fence. Personally, I wouldn't play that way. But, if I, say, stole the gauntlets above, and were intent on using them, I just may use the command. Or, you can not use it and risk the item being identified the next time the Legion catches you up to no good. The reason I list it here, though, is that it's immersive to have something for a long time and then sell it later. Whomever you sold it to won't know those old gauntlets are stolen. Not unless they are unique in some way. So, use your best roleplaying judgement when using this command--and use the command sparingly. Otherwise, you're just cheating yourself.

 

I've heard that using the console commands can mess up a save or something like that, so I don't know if this will cause problems down the line. It seems like a great option though. If I were to steal something from the Imperial City, I could change it's ownership to my own and sell it to a merchant in Bruma for instance. Of course, to keep the immersion of it all, i'd have to keep it real, so to speak, and not just change it and sell it back to someone in the same town. Would this console command cause any harm to saved games?

 

For those of you who don't know what Delte's List is and/or can't find it, here's a link to Thread 24:

 

http://forums.bethsoft.com/?showtopic=1046815&st=0

 

In my opinion, it's the best immersion-related topic i've found as of yet, and was a big help in my selection of mods and keeping my game as real as can be.

[Holyjoely]

Concerning stolen items and merchants who shouldn't know they're stolen, I just found this comment from Delte's List thread:

 

FINDERS KEEPERS! Another thing that bothers me in the game is that, after you successfully steal something, it always remains marked as stolen. You can't sell it, unless you're in the Thieves Guild (or have a mod that tweaks the game), and it will be confiscated if you are apprehended by the Legion. Well, the console command you need to solve this problem is: SetOwnership. Let's say you have a pair of gauntlets you stole. If you want to make them yours, take them out of your inventory by dropping them on the ground, open your console, select them, then type the command and hit enter. Viola, you own the gauntlets. BE WARNED, THOUGH! HAVE SOME RESTRAINT. Like most of the console commands, they can be abused and used as cheats. There's nothing stopping you from stealing until your heart is content, then marking everything as yours, then selling it for the coin without having to join the theives guild and using a fence. Personally, I wouldn't play that way. But, if I, say, stole the gauntlets above, and were intent on using them, I just may use the command. Or, you can not use it and risk the item being identified the next time the Legion catches you up to no good. The reason I list it here, though, is that it's immersive to have something for a long time and then sell it later. Whomever you sold it to won't know those old gauntlets are stolen. Not unless they are unique in some way. So, use your best roleplaying judgement when using this command--and use the command sparingly. Otherwise, you're just cheating yourself.

 

I've heard that using the console commands can mess up a save or something like that, so I don't know if this will cause problems down the line. It seems like a great option though. If I were to steal something from the Imperial City, I could change it's ownership to my own and sell it to a merchant in Bruma for instance. Of course, to keep the immersion of it all, i'd have to keep it real, so to speak, and not just change it and sell it back to someone in the same town. Would this console command cause any harm to saved games?

 

For those of you who don't know what Delte's List is and/or can't find it, here's a link to Thread 24:

 

http://forums.bethsoft.com/?showtopic=1046815&st=0

 

In my opinion, it's the best immersion-related topic i've found as of yet, and was a big help in my selection of mods and keeping my game as real as can be.

 

I can't see any reason why it would mess up your save, thanks for the link though, that's a great thread.

[majikmonkee]

Only certain console commands cause save game issues. Usually its the ones that duplicate actors or items that cause save game bloat or corruption. Simple commands like changing ownership are okay.