NPC's missing

[gmg2dave]

I recently had to do a complete re-install of my game due to a serious error that was causing near continuous crashes. Uninstalled the game, deleted all of my mods, re-installed and patched up from scratch. Re-installed all of the mods I decided to keep and started a new game from scratch. Everything was going fine, no crashes, and no problems, finished the Redcliffe castle quest chain, did the mage tower quest, and enlisted the mages to help free Conner.

 

Upon returning to Redcliffe village, I ran into a bug. No Templar by the windmill for the mages collective quest, no chantry board or chanter Farrah by the temple, and no mage collective npc down by the dock. All gone. Hmmm… Tried reloading a previous save, before I completed the Mage Tower quest, traveled to Redcliffe from the castle, and they are still gone.

 

Anyone have any idea at all of what could be causing this? The only mod I can think of that does anything with the NPC’s is dragon age re-designed, (using the latest version 7-3-686) and I have never had a problem of this sort when using it before. While it is certainly not a game breaking bug currently, I am afraid as I continue that more of the npc’s might end up missing, and I would really rather not have to deal with this every time I play through the game.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[RustyBlade]

It isn't DA redesigned causing that, it isn't possible for that mod to do that. You could try using the console script runscript zz_arl_debug and see if you can reset the plot to where you are.

[naomis8329]

If you use advanced tactics or advanced quickbar these cause problems here. Save, uncheck these, reload your save, enter the Chantry and upon leaving the relevant people should be available. Upon leaving Redcliffe, save again, recheck the mods and reload save. All should be well. However to reach the templar in Redcliffe you will need to uncheck the Advanced mods again to talk to him. Don't know why this happens but it's a pest I know. Hope this assists you.

 

Naomi

[AsmodeusUltima]

Hello,

 

I am having the exact same problem. This is my fifth time through the game, and the first time encountering this bug. It was a fresh install, patched to 1.04, with all available DLC (Ultimate Edition). I played through Lothering without problems, then went straight to Redcliffe. I helped in the fight, but noticed that, while the oil barrels were present, there was no fire. Also, the zombies initially did not come at me until I went uphill far enough to lure them down. Then the assault on the other part of town started before I had finished with the hill, in the middle of the fight. I seem to remember in previous playthroughs finishing off all the hilltop zombies before the second assault began. Anyhow, I won the battle with no villagers dying, got the correct sequence and reward, but afterward there was no Farrah or chanter's board, no Blackstone Irregular or box, and no Mage or bag at the docks. Please help!

 

gmg2dave, please take a look at the list of mods I am using; the ones we have in common might be the cause of this rather annoying bug!

 

Mods (all latest version unless specified otherwise):

Armor Rune Drop Fix http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=954

Awakening Blackblade Armor Dragon Drop Fix (Dragon Thralls version) http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1112

Morrigan Restoration Patch Dialog Fixpack (w/Loghain Dark Ritual Fix) http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1120

Awakening Silverite Mines Bugfix http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1762

Unobtainable item BUGFIX http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1262

Zevran Dialog Fix Complete (w/ Eamon Epilogue Fix and Slideshow Fix) http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=928

Dragon Age Rules Fixpack http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1601 *NOTE* This one caused bugs in Darkspawn Chronicles. It made it so that the ogre's Hurl ability could not destroy barricades, and neither the firebombs nor Fireball would destroy things in the Alienage. I had to temporarily remove this mod in order to finish the DLC.

Dialogue Tweaks http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=336

Second Drain life bug fix http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1172

Make CONSOLE commands visible http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1110

Improved Warden Oath http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1619

Blood Templar Armor http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=563

Armor of the Devout http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1018

Helmets without wings and retints (Honnleath Devout retinted) http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1064

Bombs - Range Extension http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=124

Armor of the Sten http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1185

Volcanic Blightblood http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1249

DLC in Awakening and Awakening Fixes (All in One) http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=874

Lelianas Song Items (w/ HCS Update) http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1929

Awakening Runes Fixes (DWE HAL to armor - CIR SIL to weapon) http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1020

Runecrafting supplies for bodahn (w/ Tracings of Thedas and Tower Version) http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1036

Runes For Everything Mod http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=209

Two Specializations Sten http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=486

Far Song for Owen http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=843

Awakening in the OC http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=920

Better Two-Handed Talents http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=841

Better Spellcasting and Sustained or Activated Talent Use http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=412

Full Combatant Dog http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=835

Item Leveler http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=593

Respecification (all versions) http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1927

Unlock Specializations http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=316

Dragon Age Redesigned http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=686

Dalls_DarkSpawn http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1230

Dalls_Lady_of_Forest http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1114

Dalls_Dead and Undead http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1299

Pride Demon Origins to Awakening Retex http://dragonagenexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=951

 

I have tried disabling as many mods as I could and reloading, both after the battle and before, then redoing it. I have tried leaving Redcliffe and returning, entering and exiting the Chantry and/or tavern, even reinstalling the game. All to no avail. I am willing to restart the game if I absolutely have to, but not without some reassurance that I won't just run into the exact same bug the second time around as well!

 

My thanks to anyone who can help.

[Sync182]

I recently had a problem with an NPC not appearing - but I was missing Slim Coldry from Denerim. I had no issues with the NPC's in Redcliffe. I deleted my save (wasn't happy with the playthrough amyway) and cleaned up my override folder before seeing this thread, though, so couldn't tell you what I have/had. :-/

[chad878262]

Hey man, just so you know, I found out that if I properly uninstalled Nude Variety (had to manually delete a couple files even after removing with mod manager), advanced tactics and advanced quickbar the issue was resolved. I loaded my 'broken' save with no quest givers after deleting those mods, went to camp, then traveled back to redcliffe and all quest giver npc's are where they should be. I haven't tested before the battle bugs (no movie, no oil fire or mist, have to go get the corpse's to come fight, etc..), but I am guessing that is also fixed. Hopefully if you have these mods this will work for you as well.

[taitai907]

Hey man, just so you know, I found out that if I properly uninstalled Nude Variety (had to manually delete a couple files even after removing with mod manager), advanced tactics and advanced quickbar the issue was resolved. I loaded my 'broken' save with no quest givers after deleting those mods, went to camp, then traveled back to redcliffe and all quest giver npc's are where they should be. I haven't tested before the battle bugs (no movie, no oil fire or mist, have to go get the corpse's to come fight, etc..), but I am guessing that is also fixed. Hopefully if you have these mods this will work for you as well.

 

I have Nude Variety but when I try to uninstall it, I crash. I don't use those other mods. Can someone please help me?

[Thandal]

I have Nude Variety but when I try to uninstall it, I crash. I don't use those other mods. Can someone please help me?

Read the full instructions for NV4. From what you said, you'll have to re-install it, then do the "Change me back to the way I was before" for every one of the characters you modified, THEN follow the detailed uninstall procedures.

 

Been there. Done that. Facepalmed. :rolleyes:

 

NV4 is one of the very few DA mods that actually does install parts of itself as a Windows application, so it takes more than just "delete the folder" to extract it from the game. :whistling:

[taitai907]

I have Nude Variety but when I try to uninstall it, I crash. I don't use those other mods. Can someone please help me?

Read the full instructions for NV4. From what you said, you'll have to re-install it, then do the "Change me back to the way I was before" for every one of the characters you modified, THEN follow the detailed uninstall procedures.

 

Been there. Done that. Facepalmed. :rolleyes:

 

NV4 is one of the very few DA mods that actually does install parts of itself as a Windows application, so it takes more than just "delete the folder" to extract it from the game. :whistling:

 

I was still crashing after that. As it turns out, I needed to remove my companions. That solved the problem.

[Thandal]

Glsd you got it sorted, but what do you mean by "remove" your companions?