Crashing while in the waterfront

[MajorKiller]

something weird has been happening, I notice that I can go lots of places and play oblivion for a long time without crashing but when i go to the imperial city waterfront I crash for some reason. I get fairly low FPS before it happens so I'm not sure if it is an FPS related crash. anyone know what could be the problem? here's my load order.

 

I haven't built a lot of my mods into a bashed patch as well, except for FCOM and some other mods of course but better cities and a lot of my other mods have not been built into the patch

 

Oblivion.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

FCOM_Convergence.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp

TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp

TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Better Cities .esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

FCOM_Francescos.esp

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

LoadingScreens.esp

Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

FCOM_BobsArmory.esp

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

FCOM_WarCry.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

FCOM_Cobl.esp

FCOM_Convergence.esp

FCOM_RealSwords.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

OOO-WaterFish.esp

MMM-Cobl.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

RealisticForceMedium.esp

RealisticMagicForceLow.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities - COBL.esp

Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

ElaborateEyes.esp

[chaospearl]

I don't use FCOM so I'm not sure on that. I can tell you to get rid of this: HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp. It's buggy as hell and even if it's not causing your Waterfront crash issue, it will cause other issues eventually. Good luck, hopefully somebody will come along who knows more about FCOM setups than I do.

[RaineAndrews]

something weird has been happening, I notice that I can go lots of places and play oblivion for a long time without crashing but when i go to the imperial city waterfront I crash for some reason. I get fairly low FPS before it happens so I'm not sure if it is an FPS related crash. anyone know what could be the problem? here's my load order.

 

I haven't built a lot of my mods into a bashed patch as well, except for FCOM and some other mods of course but better cities and a lot of my other mods have not been built into the patch

 

Oblivion.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm

Mart's Monster Mod.esm

FCOM_Convergence.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

HrmnsOblivionScriptOptimizationv1.0.esp

TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp

TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Better Cities .esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp

FCOM_Francescos.esp

FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp

FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp

LoadingScreens.esp

Oblivion Graphics Extender Support.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

FCOM_BobsArmory.esp

Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

FCOM_WarCry.esp

Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp

OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp

FCOM_Cobl.esp

FCOM_Convergence.esp

FCOM_RealSwords.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp

Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp

OOO-WaterFish.esp

MMM-Cobl.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

RealisticForceMedium.esp

RealisticMagicForceLow.esp

MidasSpells.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

Better Cities - COBL.esp

Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

ElaborateEyes.esp

 

I'm no expert, but your computer might be needing more RAM than it is able to get while you are in the waterfront. There is a lot of water and open space to process. Have you tried installing Streamline? If I remember right, it will adjust your graphics to keep you inside an FPS range. Also, since your game is heavily modded, you may want to look through this.

[MajorKiller]

well something I forgot to mention was that it was working fine (I could spend tons of time in the waterfront without issue) until I installed the weather all natural mod. the mod caused lots of problems and I would see black textures in the sky, probably because I was using OBGE with it. at least that is my guess, but anyways it started messing up right after I installed so I uninstalled it, removed the bashed patch settings and reverted to an older one that was working. after uninstalling when I went to the waterfront I would either crash while trying to open the door to the waterfront, or crash while exiting to the waterfront tunnels. I also saw black LOD textures before I crashed, and again all this wasn't happening until I installed the weather all natural so I assume that is the problem somehow.

[MajorKiller]

 

I'm no expert, but your computer might be needing more RAM than it is able to get while you are in the waterfront. There is a lot of water and open space to process. Have you tried installing Streamline? If I remember right, it will adjust your graphics to keep you inside an FPS range. Also, since your game is heavily modded, you may want to look through this.

wow dude that completely fixed the problem, I'm getting a ton more FPS too and It doesn't crash anymore

 

thx a lot

[UndeadDomain]

I know what it is!!! Ok not exactly but I was having this issue and it was driving me MAD! So I was using a Fcom install and a bunch of other mods and always got the crash by the waterfront. So I systematically removed EVERTHING until I was left with the Fcom Install. It's the core Fcom files. When they are active there is a small town across from the waterfront, just south of it (beyond the wall and across the river) THAT town is causing the crash. (I tested it by running through the waterfront as I removed mods. Slowly I got farther and farther until I got to the town and crashed, I then removed FCOM and fran's the town was gone and no crashes, so far) Hope it at least pinpoints the issue. I won't be troubleshooting anymore, as I finally wanna play the game but if any solves it, I'd be happy to put FCOM and Frans back.