Bending Over Backwards?

[DeathJester11]

Hi. I've recently returned to FO3, from FONV, to take advantage of the many mods that have already established themselves firmly (as opposed to the FONV mods which are still in early development).

The problem is, I installed a load of mods, and now I am finding that one of them is causing my character to bend over backwards at the waist when firing in VATS. Each time the gun is fired he flexes backwards like the recoil has broken his spine!

 

Here is a list of the mods I have running:

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

EVE.esm

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

Vault 101 Revisited.esm

Apocalypse Armory.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Mothership Crew.esm

FOOK2 - Main.ESM

FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.ESM

RTS NW.esm

Apocalypse Armory - CALIBR.esp

Apocalypse Armory - DLC Enhancements.esp

EVE Operation Anchorage.esp

Apocalypse Armory + EVE.esp

EVE - FWE Master Release.esp

EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp

EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp

EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

EVE.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

UndergroundHideout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

FOOK2 - Mothership Zeta.esp

FOOK2 - [EVE] Energy Visuals Enhanced.esp

CALIBRxMerchant.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp

FOOK2 Main [Hotfix].esp

FOOK2 DIK [Hotfix].esp

FOOK2 - Main.esp

FOOK2 - [DIK] DLC Improvement Kit.esp

UPP - Pack 1.esp

UPP - Experience Perks.esp

UPP - Pack 2.esp

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

FPS Grenade Hotkey.esp

FPS Grenade Hotkey - Zeta addon.esp

RTS NW - Volume 1st.esp

RTS NW - Volume 2nd.esp

RTS NW - Volume 3rd.esp

RTS NW - Volume 4 Stone.esp

WMK-RH IronSights.esp

RH_FWE_Patch.esp

 

Total active plugins: 82

Total plugins: 90

[Nadimos]

lmao. i want to see that!

 

anyway. the conflict is probably with fook. from what i have heard, it really does not go well with fo3 wanderers. fo3 wanderes tho on the other hand goes very well together with marts, eve and weapon modkits, aswell as project beauty. there is a detailed video tutorial on how to install it. so go to the video tab, and if you have this tackled, then you may go ahead and carefully add mods, but dont forget to ever read what you install. otherwise it gets a mess. even in fo3 with so called "established" mods. cheers and enjoy!

Edited January 8, 2011 by Nadimos

[DeathJester11]

I thought this might happen while I was downloading all these mods :(

It happened before - I download a load of mods to make the game more interesting, but they end up breaking it and I cannot be bothered to go through trying to fix the problems and uninstall them all.

[blove]

Running FOOK2 1.1 and FWE x.x together is not advised. As for FOOK2, you did not install FOOK2 1.1 correctly because you have some outdated FOOK2 1.0 RC plugins in there. EVE is integrated in FOOK2 1.1. The MMM/FOOK2 patch you are using is for MMM 5.x and you are running 6.x. You are not using the compatibility patch for WMK/FOOK2 and you do not have a merged patch which is required for WMK to work if you are using the WMK DLC plugins. FPS Grenade Key is integrated in FOOK2 1.1. I am not up on FWE but just glancing at your load order it seems there are a couple of issues there as well.

 

As for which overhaul is more compatibile it is a toss up since all of the mods Nadimos lists as "very well together" with FWE are either integrated or have well established compatibility patches with FOOK2. FWE is definately better marketed when it comes to hearts and minds.

[DeathJester11]

Ok, so it sounds like the easiest way to sort this out is to drop FOOK all together. I have also fiddled with the load order a bit. Can you please tell me if I need to change anything else?

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

EVE.esm

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

Vault 101 Revisited.esm

Apocalypse Armory.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

RH_IRONSIGHTS.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

Mothership Crew.esm

EVE.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

Apocalypse Armory - Optional Historical Names.esp

Apocalypse Armory - CALIBR.esp

Apocalypse Armory - DLC Enhancements.esp

EVE Operation Anchorage.esp

Apocalypse Armory - xCALIBR.esp

Apocalypse Armory + EVE.esp

EVE - FWE Master Release.esp

EVE Anchorage - FWE DLC Anchorage.esp

EVE - FWE Master Release (Follower Enhanced).esp

EVE - FWE with WeaponModKits.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FOOK2 - DIK.esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

UndergroundHideout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

CALIBRxMerchant.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_VanillaPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_AnchoragePlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_PittPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_BrokenSteelPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_PointLookoutPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_Basic_ZetaPlugin.esp

RH_IronSights_RemoveReticule.esp

UPP - Pack 1.esp

UPP - Experience Perks.esp

UPP - Pack 2.esp

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

WMK-RH IronSights.esp

RH_FWE_Patch.esp

 

Total active plugins: 68

Total plugins: 89

[blove]

You should check out the FWE load order template. They might also have some suggestions on the forums there. Off hand you should drop the MMM/FOOK2 CPs in that last list, double check that those WMK plugins are not WMK/FOOK2 plugins, and you will still need a merged patch for WMK to work right.

[spankenmonkey]

rh aim down sights is causing this for me