Crashing when I get near The Thorn and Westside

[arachnos653]

Like the title says I crash whenever I get near the Thorn and Westside, literally within site of the Thorn sign. Now before I go and reinstall every mod I am running I thought that I would post my load order here and maybe someone can spot something that may be causing the problem and/or has had this problem before. Several of my mods are deactivated because I am using convergence and I was told to deactivate them in the installation instructions. So if anyone can spot something in here that I could adjust or has a patch that may fix my crashing problem that would be super. If not I will just reinstall the mods and hope that fixes it. I have run it through FNVEdit and it kicks back nothing, at least nothing I can understand and my load order is sorted with BOSS.

 

GameMode=FalloutNV

FalloutNV.esm=1
DeadMoney.esm=1
HonestHearts.esm=1
OldWorldBlues.esm=1
LonesomeRoad.esm=1
GunRunnersArsenal.esm=1
ClassicPack.esm=1
MercenaryPack.esm=1
TribalPack.esm=1
CaravanPack.esm=1
YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm=1
IWS-Core.esm=1
Caliber.esm=1
CaliberXhonesthearts.esm=1
CaliberXgunrunners.esm=1
CFWNV.esm=1
CompanionInfAmmo.esm=1
drgNV - Melissa Companion.esm=1
FOOK - New Vegas.esm=1
FOOK - New Vegas DLCs.esm=1
Lucky38Suite_Reloaded.esm=1
AWorldOfPain(Preview).esm=1
More Perks.esm=1
More Perks for Companions.esm=1
More Perks for Dead Money.esm=1
More Perks for Honest Hearts.esm=1
More Perks for Old World Blues.esm=1
More Traits.esm=1
NVInteriors_Core.esm=1
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Core.esm=1
Interior Lighting Overhaul - L38PS.esm=1
Project Nevada - Core.esm=1
Project Nevada - Equipment.esm=1
Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm=1
rePopulated Wasteland.esm=1
SCAV.esm=1
SomeguySeries.esm=1
WARZONES - Misanthropy Pure.esm=1
Weapon Mod Expansion.esm=1
WME - GRA.esm=1
WME - DLCs.esm=1
WMVM.esm=1
wsex.esm=1
ELECTRO-CITY - CompletedWorkorders.esm=1
ELECTRO-CITY - Highways and Byways.esm=1
oHUD.esm=1
Lings.esm=1
FCOMaster.esm=1
Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp=1
Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp=1
AWOP v5dot3dot1 Hot Fix.esm=1
enclavebunker.esm=1
MoonQuest.esm=1
factions reloaded raiders v2.esp=1
HumanTrafficking.esm=1
VanessaFollowerNV.esm=1
YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp=1
DarNifiedUINV.esp=1
Readius_NV.esp=1
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp=1
The Weapon Mod Menu.esp=1
Alternative Start.esp=1
Better Burned Man.esp=1
KillableKids.esp=1
populatedcasino.esp=1
Project13 - Populated Wasteland.esp=1
IncreasedLegion1_1.esp=1
Portable Tent.esp=1
FOOK - New Vegas.esp=1
FOOK - New Vegas DLCs.esp=1
Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp=1
Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp=1
Project Nevada - All DLC.esp=1
avangraffscorned.esp=1
awilderwasteland.esp=1
betsybrahmin.esp=1
kochandbohr.esp=1
NewVegasBounties.esp=1
NewVegasBountiesII.esp=1
NewVegasBountiesFSOPatch.esp=0
outsidebets.esp=1
Pacersgambit.esp=1
rotfacetoriches.esp=1
wsexInnuendoAnims.esp=1
wsexInnuendoNPCs.esp=1
More Perks Update.esp=1
More Perks for Companions Update.esp=1
More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp=1
More Perks for Honest Hearts Update.esp=1
More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp=1
More Traits Update.esp=1
Wild Wasteland Integration.esp=1
Better Casinos.esp=1
CompanionInfAmmoOptional.esp=1
CompanionInfAmmoCheat.esp=1
IWS-Core-Patrols.esp=1
IWS-Core-Guards.esp=1
IWS-Core-Civilians.esp=1
IWS-DM.esp=1
IWS-HH.esp=1
IWS-OWB.esp=1
IWS-LR.esp=1
MTB.esp=1
SignatureWeapons.esp=1
Bountiful Harvest.esp=1
GRA-WRP-Patch-Two_Unofficial.esp=1
CFW-DLC.esp=1
1SBSteamOutfit.esp=1
bzArmour.esp=1
I Got Spurs.esp=1
LeatherBackpack - eng.esp=1
Leather backpack - rus.esp=0
NCR Rearmament v1.5 (Lore).esp=1
QS_Blackwolf_NV_Backpackmod.esp=1
Tailor Maid - NV.esp=1
Tailor Maid Black Retex - NV.esp=1
Type3 Leather Armors.esp=1
w44Satchels - Full.esp=1
w44Satchels - Lite.esp=1
WastelandCourier.esp=1
Voice dissonance fix.esp=0
AWOPDeadMoney.esp=1
AWOPCaliberXAmmoPatch.esp=1
UnlimitedCompanions.esp=1
Mojave Nights.esp=1
ShilohDS-Color Maps and Icons.esp=1
PipBoyLight.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main NV.esp=1
Reactive People - Ultimatum.esp=1
WeaponModsExpanded.esp=1
WMX-DLCMerged.esp=1
WMX-ArenovalisTextures.esp=0
Weapon Mod Expansion.esp=1
WME - FOOK.esp=0
Project Nevada - WME.esp=1
WME - GRA - Weapon Integration.esp=0
WME - GRA - Vendor Reform.esp=0
WME - GRA - Unique Integration.esp=0
WME - GRA - Just Guns.esp=0
WME - GRA - Complete.esp=0
WME - GRA - Arenovalis.esp=0
WME - GRA - All Weapons.esp=0
WME - DLCs.esp=0
WME - DLCs Arenovalis.esp=0
WME - FOOK DLCs.esp=0
EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp=0
Project Nevada - EVE All DLC.esp=0
Vurt's WFO.esp=1
Fellout.esp=1
Fellout-OWB.esp=1
friendofnightforfellout.esp=1
Interior Lighting Overhaul - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
ILO - GS Shack.esp=1
ILO - A World of Pain.esp=1
AWOPDeadMoneyVendorPatch.esp=1
OWB_CazaclawFacility.esp=1
enclavebunker.esp=1
enclavebunker Player Uniforms.esp=1
TheInheritance.esp=1
LightUpAndSmokeThoseCigarettes_edisleado.esp=1
lightupandsmokethosecigarettes_dm.esp=1
Better Sierra Madre Casino.esp=1
Ultimate Invisible Wall Remover.esp=1
Bioshock_Pistol.esp=1
BuzzAxe.esp=1
C1849.esp=1
Gyrojet.esp=1
MaresLeg.esp=1
Mateba.esp=1
SW38S.esp=1
RagingBull.esp=1
Type3MClothing.esp=1
RevolverRifle_0.esp=1
DeathwishMKI-MRP.esp=1
FreesideStudio.esp=1
factions reloaded followers.esp=1
FOOK-PN Convergence.esp=1
WMEVE - All DLCs.esp=0
WMEVE - No DLCs.esp=0
WMEVE - No GRA.esp=0
FOOK-PN-WME-WMX-EVE Convergence.esp=1
FCO - FOOK-PN Convergence.esp=1
FCO - Playable Races.esp=1
TribalWeaponsPackHH.esp=1
PlayableHHTribals.esp=1
HH - Removable Female Companion Outfits.esp=1
Gunslinger.esp=1
zzClothes.esp=1
1SBSteamOutfit2.esp=1
CasinoBankMoney.esp=1
CFW-PN.esp=1
CFW-PN-DLC.esp=1
FNV Realistic Wasteland Lighting - Full.esp=1
Neck-id Crucified Slaves.esp=1
Slave In Pose NV Edition.esp=1
HumanTraffickingSIP.esp=1
HumanTraffickingEX.esp=1
Benny's Lucky Lighter.esp=1
CNR_Beta.esp=1
More populated cities.esp=1
Factions Reloaded Legion.esp=1
Primm Legion.esp=1
TribalRacePack.esp=1
ArmoredDresses.esp=1
KatieNPC_eng.esp=1
FOOK-PN-AWOP Weapon Convergence.esp=1
ILO - New Vegas Bounties II.esp=1
ILO - New Vegas Bounties.esp=1

[arachnos653]

K nvm, it's crashing whenever I get any where near Fiend territory, reinstalling all. If anyone can still post anything that may be causing this great, don't want ot run into this again in the future. Only thing I can think of is a mod adding a fiend specific weapons is causing the crash, whenever the fiend tries to fire said weapon, what ever it may be, the game crashes, makes sense I suppose.

[jcdenton2012]

Wow, you don't have to reinstall your game for something like this, and... it usually doesn't help anyway. OK, time for the motions.

 

1) Is this a recent problem? If so, what were the last few mods that you installed?

2) Is NVSE fully upgraded and you are launching it properly with the loader?

3) Given the nature of your ctd-ing this is probably one of the following problems: weapon animation error, broken weapon visuals scripting, broken pop-up messages scripting. No matter the case, the odds are high that this is a scripting crash problem.

4) Knowing the up above, your first step should be to try deactivating the major mods which alter animations, visuals, and scripts. This means trying to deactivate: FOOK, Project Nevada, and the Caliber mods. If you still experience crashing then try deactivating all your mods and running it normal. If you still crash then the issue is totally different, probably a visual replacer which doesn't require an esp or esm to activate... and that's easy to narrow down on your list.

5) Assuming you're crashing from a visual replacer which doesn't require an esp or esm, then just delete those files and try running it again... it should work. Assuming you're game works properly without mods activated... then try adding mods until it starts crashing again... exercise the guess and check technique until you find your culprit.

[arachnos653]

Wow, you don't have to reinstall your game for something like this, and... it usually doesn't help anyway. OK, time for the motions.

 

1) Is this a recent problem? If so, what were the last few mods that you installed?

2) Is NVSE fully upgraded and you are launching it properly with the loader?

3) Given the nature of your ctd-ing this is probably one of the following problems: weapon animation error, broken weapon visuals scripting, broken pop-up messages scripting. No matter the case, the odds are high that this is a scripting crash problem.

4) Knowing the up above, your first step should be to try deactivating the major mods which alter animations, visuals, and scripts. This means trying to deactivate: FOOK, Project Nevada, and the Caliber mods. If you still experience crashing then try deactivating all your mods and running it normal. If you still crash then the issue is totally different, probably a visual replacer which doesn't require an esp or esm to activate... and that's easy to narrow down on your list.

5) Assuming you're crashing from a visual replacer which doesn't require an esp or esm, then just delete those files and try running it again... it should work. Assuming you're game works properly without mods activated... then try adding mods until it starts crashing again... exercise the guess and check technique until you find your culprit.

Dealt with the problem, lol was about to reinstall and it suddenly dawned on me that the culprit was probably Classic Fallout weapons mod conflicting with something else. With that installed a lot of the fiends are given various weapons. Another thing that had me thinking about this was that I would occasionaly crash whenever I tried to fire my hand flamer, course I thought nothing of it at the time. In fact it was the handflamer crash that got me thinking of this being the problem. Sure enough it was. All better now, still trying to figure out what it was conflicting with in the first place though.

 

Still thinking about reinstalling everything though, I do that everyonce in a while just to clean things up, make sure mods I don't use are not installed, just generally trying to keep everythign running smoothly. I think of it as spring cleaning for my mod list and usually do it after I finish a play through or two.

Edited May 18, 2015 by arachnos653