Weirdest issue I've ever had...

[chaospearl]

Okay... I'm really hoping somebody recognizes what on earth could be causing this.

 

I started up my game today and suddenly I'm noticing all kinds of odd things happening. The most obvious is that every couple of minutes, my game viewpoint suddenly switches from 1st to 3rd person without me telling it to. The first time I thought I'd just accidentally hit the button, but it kept happening. I stopped for a second to take a good look at my controller and make sure no dust or ick was somehow clogging any buttons, but sure enough -- the 3rd person switch happened again when I wasn't even touching the controller or the keyboard.

 

What the hell is going on here? The only mod I've installed recently is one that removes the stolen flag from objects, and I even tried disabling that just in case, but the odd glitches keep occuring. I couldn't make this stuff up if I tried. Does anyone know what might be causing it?

 

Edit: Figured out the sound effects thing, that isn't a bug and unrelated to the viewpoint switch. Removed that "symptom" from the post to avoid confusion.

[Hickory]

And your load list is?

[chaospearl]

Okay... figured out the odd sounds thing. That's from a disease mod I'd forgotten I had installed weeks ago (I've just never had a disease so I didn't realize it plays sound effects, heh.) My bad, how embarassing! That isn't a bug, unrelated to the viewpoint thing.

 

The 3rd person switch is a lot more irritating. It seems to happen every 45 seconds or so and is totally independent of any kind of mouse, keyboard, or controller button pressing. The only thing I can possibly think of is that maybe it's timescale related... it's almost like the switch that happens when you stay still for too long and the game switches you to 3rd person and the view starts circling. Except it happens when I'm walking, not standing still.

 

Load order:

 

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Jog_X_Mod.esm
02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]
03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]
04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]
05  Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]
06  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
07  Qarls_Harvest.esm
08  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]
09  Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm
0A  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
0B  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]
0C  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
0D  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.8.3]
0E  BetterMusicSystem.esm
0F  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]
10  CURP_Controller.esm
11  CM Partners.esm
12  TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp
13  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.3]
14  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
15  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
16  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
17  Better Cities .esp
18  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
19  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.1]
1A  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]
1B  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp
++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.1]
1C  Storms & Sound.esp
1D  Rainbows.esp
1E  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.1]
1F  WindowLightingSystem.esp
20  36Sermons-Miltiades.esp
21  AliveWaters.esp
22  Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp
23  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
24  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.76]
25  BetterMusicSystem(SI).esp  [Version 1.0]
26  P1DseeYouSleep.esp
27  Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp
28  Qarls_Harvest.esp
29  RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.5]
2A  SoT_Holiday.esp
2B  Harvest[Containers].esp
2C  Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esp
2D  Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp
2E  Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esp
2F  Crowded Roads Revisited.esp  [Version 1.1]
30  FF_Real_Thirst.esp
31  DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp
32  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp
33  Streamline 3.1.esp
34  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.8]
35  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]
36  Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete V2a.esp
37  DLCHorseArmor.esp
38  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
39  DLCOrrery.esp
3A  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
3B  DLCVileLair.esp
3C  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
3D  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
3E  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
3F  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
40  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
++  CM_Better Wine.esp
41  Dollparts_CorsetsoftheRose.esp
42  FemaleSweaterMod.esp
43  JQ-Amulets.esp
44  Kafei's Circlets Reforged.esp
45  ORM -Travelers' Cloaks.esp
46  Scarves!.esp
47  Mounted_Spellcasting.esp
48  DLCThievesDen.esp
49  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
++  Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp
4A  Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp
4B  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
4C  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
4D  FF_Real_Thirst, Cobl.esp
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
4E  Mart's Monster Mod for Fran.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
4F  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Imperial Armor.esp  [Version 3.7b3p]
50  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
51  Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
52  Mart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Reavers.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Lanterns.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced Reduced.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
53  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
54  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
55  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
56  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
57  TamrielTravellers4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]
58  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]
59  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]
5A  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp
5B  WAC - Birds&Insects.esp
5C  hrOscarWiener.esp
5D  Castle Ravenpride.esp  [Version 1.01]
5E  Adult_BookStore.esp
5F  BHC_Expanded.esp  [Version 1.2]
60  HackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp
++  DBQ-AKnifeInTheDark_delayed.esp
61  DexwoodsHideout.esp
62  FuseSnailRacing.esp
63  JolardHome.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
64  JSRandomTasks.esp  [Version 1.1a]
65  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
66  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
67  EiAmod.esp  [Version 1.1]
++  EiAmod_ShiveringIsles.esp
68  OldCrowInn.esp  [Version 1.5]
69  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]
6A  Mimics!.esp
6B  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.3]
6C  TheElderCouncil.esp
6D  TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp
6E  thievery.esp
6F  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
70  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.5.1]
71  WaterFallCave.esp
72  WOTFH_1.3.esp
73  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
74  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
75  DLCFrostcrag.esp
76  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
77  Knights.esp
78  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
**  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
79  SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp  [Version 1.30]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Knights.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
7A  TOTF.esp
7B  TOTF-EiAE Patch.esp
++  TOTF Delayer.esp
7C  The Lost Spires.esp
7D  Blood&Mud.esp
7E  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 7.1]
7F  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.2.COBL]
80  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.6]
81  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
82  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
83  Faregyl.esp  [Version 1.0.10]
84  Molapi.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
85  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.5]
86  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
87  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
88  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
89  xulTheHeath.esp
8A  MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp
8B  XulEntiusGorge.esp
8C  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
8D  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
8E  TheElderCouncil-FallenleafEverglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
8F  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
90  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
91  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
92  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
93  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
94  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]
95  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
96  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
97  Mimics-CloudtopMountains patch.esp
98  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
99  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
9A  HeartoftheDead-ArriusCreek patch.esp
9B  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
9C  MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp
9D  xulPantherRiver.esp
9E  Blood&Mud-PantherRiver patch.esp
9F  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
A0  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]
A1  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]
A2  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
A3  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
A4  Blood&Mud-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
A5  TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
A6  KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
A7  CastleRavenpride-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
A8  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
A9  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
AA  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
AB  Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
AC  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
AD  NRB4+UL-II+LtPD Patch.esp  [Version 3.0.1]
AE  EtInArkay-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp
AF  West Roads.esp
B0  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
B1  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
B2  Bag of Holding.esp  [Version 1.5.0]
B3  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.2]
B4  DS Storage Sacks.esp  [Version 1.21]
B5  gardening.esp
B6  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]
B7  Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp
B8  Storms & Sound - AFK_Weye.esp
B9  Storms & Sound - Blood&Mud.esp
BA  Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.esp
BB  Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp
BC  Ayelid Wells.esp
BD  Natural Hunger v2_1 by QF.esp
BE  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.5]
BF  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.88]
C0  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]
++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.80]
++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.82]
++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]
++  SM_AbsorbRestoration.esp  [Version 0.80]
++  SM_EnableCharmChameleon.esp  [Version 0.80]
++  SM_EnableRestoreEnchanting.esp  [Version 0.80]
C1  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]
++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]
++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]
C2  AudaciousMagery.esp
C3  Vector.esp  [Version 0.3]
C4  Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp
C5  Kobu's 2x Slower Skills Mod.esp
C6  immersive_caves_manual.esp
**  Dark Dungeons -  SI.esp  [Version 1.0]
++  Item interchange - Placement.esp  [Version 0.76]
++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
C7  CM Partners.esp
C8  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]
++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]
C9  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp  [Version 4.8.3]
CA  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
CB  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
CC  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
CD  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]
CE  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.8.1]
CF  Better Cities - Thievery.esp  [Version 4.8.0]
D0  Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
D1  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.81]
D2  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.8.1]
**  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.8.1]
D3  Better Imperial City - OMG.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
D4  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
D5  Better Cities - Old Crow Inn.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
D6  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]
D7  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]
D8  NoMerchantBarterChatter.esp
**  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
D9  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.1]
DC  Happyhannah's Time Wasting.esp  [Version 1.0]
DA  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

[Smooth613]

Disable your controller. Does the problem still exist?

 

That would be the first place to start.

[Hickory]

This is an odd one, not least because it's a sudden occurence, and you say it happens when you're walking. Normally, I would say that is a symptom of dodgy keys/buttons, which you've checked, or possibly animations lurking in your meshes\characters\_1stPerson or meshes\characters\_male folders, maybe left over from a previously installed mod? .

[chaospearl]

Disable your controller. Does the problem still exist?

 

Yeah, that was the first thing I tried. It still happens with the controller not even connected. Also tried changing the key that handles viewpoint; that didn't work either. Whatever is causing this has nothing to do with key\mouse\controller input.

[Hickory]

Have you tried renaming your oblivion.ini and restarting the game from the launcher (so that the game re-detects your hardware and rebuilds your ini file)? A long shot, but worth a try.

[chaospearl]

You know what... I'm not convinced anymore that the two problems weren't related after all. I'm starting to suspect Vector might be causing the viewpoint oddity as well as the sound effects. I just re-read its (rather long) readme from top to bottom again and it's not supposed to include visual effects unless you're using OBGE, which I am not... but I'm still suspicious. It seems awfully coincidental that this problem started out of nowhere and the ONLY thing that changed is my character caught a disease. I'll post again after I've tested it more thoroughly, in case I'm wrong I don't want to unfairly malign a great mod.