MRBee30 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 So when I launch Skyrim and load up my save file everything is fine. I'm using SkyUi but I can browse all the menus with ease. It's only after about 5 minutes into the game do I start noticing things. Some times when I open my item menu, large colorful shapes start floating around the screen and then the game crashes. But most of the time after 5 minutes the game just crashes every time I open a menu. But like I said it works fine for about 5 minutes. Any idea what might be causing this? Here's a list of my load order if that helps. I use Loot to sort my plugins and I've used TES5Edit to clean all original files as well as any files Loot says needed cleaning. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ApachiiHair.esm RaceCompatibility.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm SGHairPackBase.esm Omegared99-Compilation.esm TERAArmors.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp MashupUNP.esp Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp Behemoth Dragon.esp AMatterOfTime.esp better dynamic snow.esp CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp CharacterMakingExtender.esp Fudou Myouou.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp DQ3SageOutfit.esp calyps-animal-ears.esp Better Embers.esp DreamBurrowsSageOutfit.esp DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp JaxonzEnhGrab.esp Beards.esp Bandanas of Skyrim.esp Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Onmund by CrimsonFairy.esp Moss Rocks.esp Footprints.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp SGEyebrows.esp SGHairPackAIO.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp alvor's house dynamic.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp Rigmor.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Shields of Jorrvaskr by Hothtrooper44.esp Opeth_torch.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp EliteKnightArmor.esp Opeth_Weather.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Natural Skyrim Rain.esp hobbithouse.esp MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp BloodWitchArmor.esp Mei.esp Northern Priestess - EX.esp SilverDragonArmor.esp SkyUI.esp TCOSS.esp Tel_Nalta.esp Birdsofskyrim.esp SkyFalls + SkyMills.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Crimson Tide - Blood.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp loners_sword.esp Waves.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp calyps-investigator.esp Cloaks.esp RiversideLodge.esp windfall.esp fallentreebridges.esp dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp Riverwood Reborn.esp SFO - Dragonborn.esp Tera Armor Level List.esp AK- Alternate Actors.esp Medium-40Percent.esp The Joy of Perspective.esp OpulentOutfitsV2Universal.esp EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp Toccata.esp WayshrinesIFT.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Grass On Steroids.esp AyleidSanctuary.esp RockRemoverALL.esp EliRedguardHouse.esp ElysiumEstate.esp Nakahara.esp WheelsOfLull.esp HolmwoodNahkin.esp Mannequins.esp FS_UltimateAssortment.esp ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp Breezehome-hf-CTD-fix.esp SamuraiBlades.esp SamuraiBladesWeapons.esp AesirArmor.esp AV1Dragon_Lords.esp isilNarsil.esp ScopedBows.esp BlackSacramentArmor.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Knight Of Thorns Armor.esp Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp Osare GothicLolita.esp PlayerHomeMapMarkers.esp Raven Witch Armor.esp ErynielElfV2.esp Real Clouds.esp WestWindMisfit.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlseanan Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Bumping this. Same problem, even the colourful artifacts. Currently, both the magic and inventory menus will 100%, completely reproduce-ably crash the game. Map and Skills aren't too sure if they want to cause nonsense or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRBee30 Posted May 29, 2015 Author Share Posted May 29, 2015 That's exactly the same issue! I'm not sure how to fix it. It's not a hardware problem as my CPU, GPU and RAM are all working at normal levels. I've tried disabling all plugins and the problem didn't occur. So it has to be mod related somehow. I just can't figure out what kind of a conflict would cause this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlseanan Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I can't either, and now the favourites menu won't open. It makes the bass sound for menu opening but nothing actually opens. I really don't want to go through my mods one by one - there's too many dependencies. Anyone have ANY ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlseanan Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Done some testing. Disabled SkyUI in Mod Organizer, and its dependents Trade and Barter and Dual Sheath Redux - crashes my old saves on load. Started a new character, get a bunch of warnings from different mods that SkyUI is not installed and MCM is missing, etc. BUT, i can access all menus no problemo. Seems to be SkyUI is the culprit, and I really don't want it to be. Once again, pleading for help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRBee30 Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 It's got to be a conflicting script file. Somewhere in the Data/Scrips folder. SkiUi shouldn't conflict with anything but both of our testing proves that it's directed at that mod. I'm starting a long shift at work but when I get home tomorrow, if nobody has found a fix. I'll go through the long process of checking each plugin one by one. Also reinstalling SkyUi. But I really don't want to do that for obvious reasons haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlseanan Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 So SkyUI menus work with the new character too. Dammit. Still reliably crashes the other characters though. Installed new beta version of SKSE - does nothing. Reinstalled SkyUI - nothing. Is this just simply corruption of character(s)? Here's my LOOT report, if it helps: Skyrim.esmCRC: C665FD56Update.esmCRC: 6C9DEE4Add: C.Location, Delev, Invent, RelevUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espCRC: 26DD4BADVersion: 2.1.1Add: C.Acoustic, C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.ImageSpace, C.Light, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, C.Owner, C.Water, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Relev, Sound, StatsDawnguard.esmCRC: 31F95958Add: C.Location, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, SoundUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espCRC: 268672D7Version: 2.1.1Add: C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, StatsHearthFires.esmCRC: 33181BF4Add: C.Location, Graphics, InventUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espCRC: F4095E63Version: 2.1.1Add: C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, C.Water, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, StatsDragonborn.esmCRC: 1AEEF06Add: C.Location, Graphics, Invent, NamesUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espCRC: 188FB75DVersion: 2.1.1Add: C.Climate, C.Encounter, C.Location, C.Music, C.Name, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, Sound, StatsSkyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esmCRC: FE33A011ETaC - RESOURCES.esmCRC: 472BD697DynamicLoot.esmCRC: 6744F3B7Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esmCRC: AC4A653AWinterholdDestruction.esmCRC: 3E83CFC0SPERG.esmCRC: C5FDC322CompanionArissa.esmCRC: 6A8F371Adaymoyl.esmCRC: DAE8E02FHighResTexturePack01.espCRC: D596F02AHighResTexturePack02.espCRC: D596F02AHighResTexturePack03.espCRC: D596F02AUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espCRC: 7EBC542Version: 1.1.9Cutting Room Floor.espCRC: 42023146Version: 1.1.2Add: C.Climate, C.Location, C.Owner, C.RecordFlags, Delev, Graphics, Invent, Names, StatsSmartCast_1_0.espCRC: DCC37481Version: 1.083Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.espCRC: 70139025Version: 4.1CobbEncumbrance.espCRC: F525C103BlackHorseCourier.espCRC: 3C97A13FLootandDegradation.espCRC: F039A70AVersion: 1.31Soul Gems Differ.espCRC: 4F02E2D7Auto Unequip Ammo.espCRC: 4B399546College of Winterhold Entry Requirements.espCRC: EFD2656CtowConversation.espCRC: 27711704fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.espCRC: CC1A0B4EVersion: 1.0BWS.espCRC: D596F02AGQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.espCRC: 3EE05DD0Brows.espCRC: AC68717AVersion: 30411Lock Overhaul.espCRC: 3FB2EDFAChesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.espCRC: 3A253C5DChesko_WearableLantern.espCRC: 1537EE33RaceMenuPlugin.espCRC: 8A8A009FNote: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.ClassicLevelUp.espCRC: 50C99571Headtracking.espCRC: 2856EB9FBFSEffects.espCRC: 543D56D4Version: 3.6AHZmoreHUD.espCRC: D340E330Version: 2.1.3TKRecoil.espCRC: 7D30007DragonShoutVoice.espCRC: DB709B74Nausicaa's Tweaker.espCRC: E9D5C12BDawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.espCRC: BD3A207DLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - for Pure Weather.espCRC: DE95212FUD_Serana.espCRC: 8905E423Version: 1.2DragonEngine2.espCRC: 44D00ED4Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.espCRC: 6C0E1257Note: Use only one Dual Wield Parrying*.esp.ORM-Arvak.espCRC: EAE05BDDSkyUI.espCRC: 9330CAF7Version: 4.1TradeBarter.espCRC: AC24F58BAdd: Delev, RelevHitStop.espCRC: 6F4A11E0Beards.espCRC: 85B4CEFAVersion: 28363Moss Rocks.espCRC: 40AB761ASMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.espCRC: 4CD19713Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.espCRC: C4ED7762DynamicLoot_DB_DG.espCRC: AA9BB7D0Dual Sheath Redux.espCRC: 49778E0BNote: Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+AMatterOfTime.espCRC: 512CD10CVersion: 2.00Footprints.espCRC: E87C93C0RaceMenu.espCRC: 2765B7D0Guard Dialogue Overhaul.espCRC: AFACD2E9Note: Do not clean ITM records, they are intentional and required for the mod to function. It is safe to undelete records, but do not do anything other than that.SMDropLitTorch.espCRC: 1D97B006SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.espCRC: FA28D596Moss Rocks_DB.espCRC: 367B849AEnhancedLightsandFX.espCRC: A71A7CA7ETaC - Complete.espCRC: 2872B1EANote: It is recommended to also install the 3DNPC patch for Expanded Towns and Cities.ELFX - Dawguard - Dragonborn.espCRC: ECF28E6DExpandedWinterholdRuins.espCRC: B9F1525Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.espCRC: EA312F01Version: 2.3Bring Out Your Dead.espCRC: 9E880450Version: 2.0.2Add: C.LocationBFT Ships and Carriages.espCRC: 79EA7D8BetterQuestObjectives.espCRC: 48515B44Version: 1.5.2Better Stealth AI for Followers.espCRC: CD01E427Version: 3.4NonEssentialChildren.espCRC: BAE841DBAdd: DelevErandur Redone.espCRC: 2D9D20C0ETaC - Complete Merged Patch.espCRC: 17E35B8RealisticRoomRental.espCRC: F2A80AE63DNPC.espCRC: 26DA4A20Version: 3.09.3FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.espCRC: EBD99340No Combat Boundaries - Legendary.espCRC: 2B568BAFSilent Skyrim - No Music.espCRC: C0FF614CNirShor-MusicalLore.espCRC: 29DB7BB5Thieves Guild Requirements.espCRC: 8617DA3Bmintylightningmod.espCRC: 83F77041VioLens.espCRC: AFBB78D6Version: 2.0Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espCRC: 1748CEDEVersion: 5.1Add: Delev, Names, Relev, StatsWeapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.espCRC: 42ABD2DEVersion: 5.1Add: Delev, RelevClothing & Clutter Fixes.espCRC: 19D5B4DAVersion: 1.5Add: Delev, Names, Relev, StatsRealisticNeedsandDiseases.espCRC: B74B21DAAdd: Delev, RelevRadiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.espCRC: EA004B82Toxicity.espCRC: D78199CACollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.espCRC: DD359393Book Covers Skyrim.espCRC: AA9BA3CDDawnofSkyrim-AllMajorCities.espCRC: 3E85DB1ARRR_ELFX-Patch.espCRC: 68E35AC8Skyrim Immersive Creatures.espCRC: F68C9890Version: v6.5.2aAdd: Delev, RelevExplosiveBoltsVisualized.espCRC: C730D9F6ETaC - Complete ELFX Patch.espCRC: 860F411FHarvestOverhaul.espCRC: 8FBB155EVersion: 2.8.2ClamsDropPearls.espCRC: FC8EBCE9fallentreebridges.espCRC: F7D47176Helgen Reborn.espCRC: 91F56C13Version: 105.3SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.espCRC: E866A0F5Add: Delev, NamesDistant DetailHF.espCRC: 716CD1C4Note: Detailed guide for cleaning.SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.espCRC: 3A2624E4Version: 3.0.espESFCompanions.espCRC: CF7C7A14Version: 0.3.7RBB - Snowy Travel Merge.espCRC: 26DD5EA5OBIS.espCRC: B464ABC7Add: Delev, RelevHarvestOverhaulCreatures.espCRC: E867E51CVersion: 2.8.2SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.espCRC: FBFBE09COBIS DG Faction Patch.espCRC: 1C764FF3OBISDB.espCRC: 1109C38Add: Delev, RelevCivil War Overhaul.espCRC: DF877E09REGS - Better Docks.espCRC: A8992C97CWIMergedPatch.espCRC: BE0E5B6CSPTConsistentOlderPeople.espCRC: 348EC321Version: 3.0Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.espCRC: 4FD63CD3Version: 2EMCompViljaSkyrim.espCRC: 9BAC14EFEMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.espCRC: FA24307ASkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espCRC: 37A6F2FAVersion: v6.5.2aAdd: Delev, RelevSky Haven Temple M&M3.espCRC: FC546C0DSkyRe_EncounterZones.espCRC: D0C666A8Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.espCRC: 3B4C6026Hidden Hideouts of Skyrim - Merged NavMeshed - No Map Markers.espCRC: 8B72391BetterDGEntrance.espCRC: 53EC5DE6Version: 1.0Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.espCRC: C56B1AEEOblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.espCRC: E688076DBirdsHFclean.espCRC: DFC90A63RND_Merged Patch.espCRC: DA5AD6ABInconsequential NPCs.espCRC: 39BC2449Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.espCRC: BDE8703CTheChoiceIsYours.espCRC: 5E9DC415Version: 1.4SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.espCRC: B1293726Point The Way.espCRC: F3EDC8D8Version: 1.0.5FarmhouseChimneys.espCRC: 8D9939FARealisticWaterTwo.espCRC: 3369B96EVersion: 1.11abotFiresHurt.espCRC: 585F2F21Version: 1.09WetandCold.espCRC: ED503A49Version: 2.01AOS.espCRC: BA351E72Version: 2.5DGDBADS.espCRC: 73426A08Animated Weapon Enchants.espCRC: F02344F1Paralyze.espCRC: B60BC46DImmersive Horses.espCRC: D4206346DeadlyDragons.espCRC: E8F826EAAdd: Delev, RelevDeadlySpellImpacts.espCRC: 455C0C6ATraps Are Dangerous.espCRC: BDD70444Pureweather.espCRC: F755C330TrueStorms.espCRC: A04BFEF0Version: 1.5BlackreachOverhaul.espCRC: 1C59B53ASupreme Fog.espCRC: 58B9CAD1Supreme Storms.espCRC: 5EDCD0ECIHSS.espCRC: 8E27DF44SPERG.espCRC: DD17CD3ESPERG Weapons and Armor Complete.espCRC: 2D60A526UniqueWeaponsRedone.espCRC: 1FF9314BElemental Staves.espCRC: B0462604WetandCold - Ashes.espCRC: B447D21FWhen Vampires Attack.espCRC: 3BE3542BVersion: 2.0.5WondersofWeather.espCRC: 2107D2B4Version: 1.01aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.espCRC: C80954FVersion: 1.9Add: Delev, RelevaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espCRC: 4B3CBB77Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espCRC: 44BAC29FVersion: 1.6Add: Delev, Names, Relev, StatsClothing & Clutter_Merged Patch.espCRC: FC501BF0Nightingale Hall.espCRC: 288A181CComplete Crafting_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.espCRC: DE810AEEVersion: 5.1Add: Delev, RelevHigh Level Enemies - 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Dawnguard.espCRC: 9F9FCD4STEP Core & Extended - Survival patch.espCRC: 3D10C67EPP_OgmundsTomb.espCRC: 9E84039Chigh hrothgar overhaul.espCRC: DFF70AC9dD - Enhanced Blood Main.espCRC: 7F66C837Note: Requires: Dragonborn-Dawnguard_Compatibility Patch \\ Dawnguard + Dragonborn.BlockSparkles.espCRC: 7EA628AAGildergreen Regrown.espCRC: 5111AD5FVersion: 1.2.6SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.espCRC: B1BD0CA6Equipping Overhaul.espCRC: A2313F69Sky Haven Temple Masters Quarters.espCRC: 62E1E9F4SkyRe_Combat.espCRC: 8CBB3E24vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.espCRC: 9238F104TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.espCRC: 8BD6B852UniqueBorderGates-All-PointTheWay.espCRC: FB5D20A4Apple garden.espCRC: EE74B35FPP_WindcallerPass.espCRC: 270264AEPsilocybinMushrooms.espCRC: 35350A21Chesko_Step418_SN.espCRC: 7A15383CRBB - Row Boats - Hearthfire Hotfix.espCRC: AEB238D4AOS2_Merged Patch.espCRC: BD749C7FImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.espCRC: 7409094BdD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.espCRC: 8ED3EF32iActivate.espCRC: 5CA8A995iHUD.espCRC: 6098B756vwr Wet Eyes.espCRC: 63F37A19Alternate Start - Live Another Life.espCRC: EA95B2C5Version: 3.0.1Add: C.LocationModular Morrowloot Patch.espCRC: 2492CCFDBetterQuestObjectives - MergedPatch.espCRC: 320CB81EFarmhouseChimneysMergedPatch.espCRC: 64CD9961STEP Extended Patch.espCRC: B8F0C80AVersion: 2.2.9Add: Delev, Names, Relev, StatsBashed Patch, 0.espCRC: E1F776DEVersion: 609Dual Sheath Redux Patch.espCRC: 7EAF013C I can also get computer specs and Papyrus logs. I'm at my end here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRBee30 Posted June 2, 2015 Author Share Posted June 2, 2015 So I can't figure it out. Too many plugins rely on Skyui for me to effectively go through the load order one by one. I'm getting the error on new games as well as save games. Even after using the Save cleaner tool. I'm at a loss. Disabling every plugin fixes the issue. But like I said too many of my mods are dependent on Skyui that I either have to delete everything.... Or reinstall the game. Which isn't an option as I just recovered from a clean install. I know it can't be hardware related as I have 16GB of DDR4 Ram, i7 5820k processor. Dual SLI GTX 960's and All games are run specifically on a stand alone SSD drive dedicated to games. I'm at a loss here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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