Mod Order Issue

[Davehoekst]

Oh, right. I really don't know what to suggest, then, as I am not familiar with that mod, or what it does.

 

I'm still trying to find out why reordering the mods caused it to stop working. It virtually convinces me that it is mod order that is causing the problems.

[Hickory]

Oh, right. I really don't know what to suggest, then, as I am not familiar with that mod, or what it does.

 

I'm still trying to find out why reordering the mods caused it to stop working. It virtually convinces me that it is mod order that is causing the problems.

 

I really don't see how that can be, considering that it is way down the load order list. Remember, the lower down the list it is, the higher priority it has as far as conflicts are concerned. Not only that, but the BOSS team are really smart in what they do.

[Davehoekst]

Oh, right. I really don't know what to suggest, then, as I am not familiar with that mod, or what it does.

 

I'm still trying to find out why reordering the mods caused it to stop working. It virtually convinces me that it is mod order that is causing the problems.

 

I really don't see how that can be, considering that it is way down the load order list. Remember, the lower down the list it is, the higher priority it has as far as conflicts are concerned. Not only that, but the BOSS team are really smart in what they do.

I've done some experiments with mods relating to the Scripted Argonian Feet Mod and starting the game from the desktop, Wrye Bash, and OBMM. There appears to be one factor that influences whether or not this mod will activate: Whether or not I start the game from OBMM, not Wrye Bash. If I start the game from OBMM, the mod works. If I start the game from Wrye Bash, the mod doesn't work at all. I still can't get it to work perfectly, seeing as how I cannot wear anything on my feet, as is claimed. I'm going to download another version of the arrays and see if I can then. Just thought I'd update the situation.

 

Current Mod Order:

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
02  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
03  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
04  Better Cities Resources.esm
05  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
06  Better Cities .esp
++  Advanced_Water_Modification-2734.esp
07  MIS.esp
08  MIS Low Wind.esp
09  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
0A  IlluminationWithin.esp
0B  IlluminationWithout.esp
0C  IWR-Lights.esp
0D  IWR-Windows.esp
0E  IWR-Shutters.esp
0F  AliveWaters.esp
10  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
11  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
12  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp
13  DLCOrrery.esp
14  DLCVileLair.esp
15  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp
16  Slof's Boners! v5.esp
17  Slof's Persian Outfit For Males.esp
18  DLCThievesDen.esp
19  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]
1A  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]
1B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
1C  OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]
1D  OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp  [Version 1.33]
1E  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]
1F  Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp
20  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
21  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
22  GlenvarCastle.esp
23  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]
24  Servant of the Dawn.esp
25  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
26  za_bankmod.esp
27  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
28  DLCFrostcrag.esp
29  Knights.esp
2A  MannimarcoComplete.esp
2B  MannimarcoRevisited.esp
2C  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]
2D  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
2E  Reaper's Esmeralda's Desert Manor.esp
++  ElsweyrAnequinaNoSpiders.esp
2F  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
30  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
31  xulTheHeath.esp
32  XulEntiusGorge.esp
33  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
34  Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp
35  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
36  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
37  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
38  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
39  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]
3A  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]
3B  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
3C  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
3D  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
3E  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
3F  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
40  xulPantherRiver.esp
41  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
42  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
43  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
44  xulBlackwoodForest.esp
45  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
46  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
47  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
48  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]
49  Moriarcis.esp
4A  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
4B  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
4C  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]
++  cidnothump.esp
++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]
4D  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp
4E  Better Cities Full.esp
4F  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
50  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
51  BCBravilFULL-Barrowfields patch.esp
52  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp
53  BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland fix.esp
54  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp
55  BCCheydinhalFULL-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
56  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp
57  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp
58  Dark Brotherhood - Sanctuary Resurrected.esp
59  Castel_Monte_eng.esp
5A  Garden Maze.esp
5B  Death`s Serpent Tower.esp
5C  SaintsSeducersEdit.esp
5D  Better Imperial City.esp
5E  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
++  Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp
5F  ScriptedArgonianFeet.esp
++  Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp
60  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

Edited February 4, 2011 by Davehoekst

[Hickory]

I've done some experiments with mods relating to the Scripted Argonian Feet Mod and starting the game from the desktop, Wrye Bash, and OBMM. There appears to be one factor that influences whether or not this mod will activate: Whether or not I start the game from OBMM, not Wrye Bash. If I start the game from OBMM, the mod works. If I start the game from Wrye Bash, the mod doesn't work at all. I still can't get it to work perfectly, seeing as how I cannot wear anything on my feet, as is claimed. I'm going to download another version of the arrays and see if I can then. Just thought I'd update the situation.

 

Current Mod Order:

 

So what you are saying is that:

If you start the game from the desktop AF does not initialise.

If you start the game from Wrye Bash AF does not initialise

If you start the game from OBMM the game initialises, but doesn't work correctly.

 

Is this right? And if so, do you have OBMM open when running from the other two sources?

[Davehoekst]

So what you are saying is that:

If you start the game from the desktop AF does not initialise.

If you start the game from Wrye Bash AF does not initialise

If you start the game from OBMM the game initialises, but doesn't work correctly.

 

Is this right? And if so, do you have OBMM open when running from the other two sources?

 

You are right. I always have Wrye Bash open, albeit minimised. I only open OBMM when I choose to run the game from that platform.

 

After more experimentation, I determined that, based on my particular setup, Slof's Argonian Mod is NOT needed and I also solved my clothing issue. I had forgotten to download a clothing patch for "Argonian Beautification." I am now 90% sure that the issues I was having with the mod not initialising are entirely based on whether or not I started the game in OBSE.

Edited February 4, 2011 by Davehoekst

[Hickory]

Ok, I downloaded this mod to see what the requirements are, and what is going on. You HAVE to start the game from OBSE loader, and you HAVE to have the OBSE plugin 'Pluggy' installed. I started a new game (Robert's Male and Female versions installed) and it initialises and acts as you would expect:

 

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3144/safh.jpg

 

This is the contents of my installation:

 

\ScriptedArgonianFeet.esp

\meshes\characters\argonian\femalefeet_ABfeet.nif

\meshes\characters\argonian\femalefeet_ABffc.nif

\meshes\characters\argonian\femalelegs_ABfeet.nif

\meshes\characters\argonian\malefeet_ABfeet.nif

\meshes\characters\argonian\malefeet_ABffc.nif

\meshes\characters\argonian\malelegs_ABfeet.nif

 

Plus:

\OBSE\Plugins\Pluggy Docs\(4 html docs)

\OBSE\Plugins\OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dll

\OBSE\Plugins\Pluggy_1_1.dlx

\OBSE\Plugins\Pluggy_1_2.dlx

\OBSE\Plugins\Pluggy_1_2_416.dlx

[Davehoekst]

I had a feeling I missed a thing or two. -.- Thanks for the help and patience!

[Hickory]

Glad it's sorted.