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TL;DR: After I move every few yards (maybe 10 or so) and see land further up starting to load and pop up into view, Oblivion crashes.

 

I start up through obse_loader.exe. Everything works fine. This is a relatively new save (just outside Imperial Sewers, I had to deactivate all mods since exiting the sewers with mods on crashed Oblivion, activating after exiting worked fine), but when I move enough distance in any direction, enough to see the objects further up ahead start popping up into view, the game locks for half a second, and CTD's with the standard "Oblivion has encountered a problem." Is it a mod issue or what?

 

Comp Specs: Intel C2D E8400@3GHz, ATI HD4850, 4GB RAM, Vista 32bit.

 

Load order:

 

 

 

00 Oblivion.esm

01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.2]

02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

04 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]

06 Better Cities Resources.esm

07 HorseCombatMaster.esm

08 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.4]

09 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

0A Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

0B DLCShiveringIsles.esp

0C Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.1]

++ MOBS SI.esp [Version 1.2.2a]

0D Better Cities .esp

0E Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

0F Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

10 All Natural.esp [Version 1.2]

11 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.2]

12 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

13 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.2]

++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78]

14 moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp

15 DLCHorseArmor.esp

16 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

17 DLCVileLair.esp

18 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

19 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

1A DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

1B DLCThievesDen.esp

1C DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]

** DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]

1D Francesco's Optional Files.esp

1E Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]

1F Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]

++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]

20 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

21 DLCFrostcrag.esp

22 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

23 Knights.esp

24 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1]

25 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

26 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

27 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

28 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]

29 quickstart.esp

2A MidasSpells.esp

2B Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5]

++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.78]

++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.78]

2C Beautiful People.esp

2D Better Cities Full.esp

2E Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

2F Better Imperial City.esp

30 Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

31 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]

32 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp

33 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp

34 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]

35 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.1]

36 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.8.1]

37 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

38 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1]

39 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.6]

3A Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp

3B Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp

3C Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

3D Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]

** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.2]

3E xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]

3F xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]

40 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]

41 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]

42 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]

43 xulTheHeath.esp

44 XulEntiusGorge.esp

45 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]

46 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]

47 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]

48 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]

49 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.1]

4A xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]

4B xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]

4C xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3]

4D xulPantherRiver.esp

4E xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]

4F xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1]

50 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.0]

51 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]

52 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.1]

53 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.2]

54 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

55 LandMagicPatch.esp

56 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

57 Streamline 2.1.esp

58 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

59 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

 

 

 

If it helps, here's the directions I wrote for myself before doing all this; they're modified from the TR0LL compilation documentation since I started with that but gave up and reinstalled.

 

Vanilla oblivion works fine, but it's so bland.

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I've already BOSS'd the mods, and I tried using Game Booster.

 

The save loads, and about 5 or so seconds later the environment (UL, NE, etc.) "load" (as in the view changes-the land gets darker, there's weather, etc.). After I move a bit, it crashes, just like before.

 

EDIT: I tried again with game booster. I was able to get quite a bit "behind" the sewers exit, towards the city before crashing. About 35 seconds of walking. I dunno if that info helps though.

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I downloaded the BOSS 1.65 and installed it (I had been using the archive version, uninstalled that), updated the masterlist, and ran it again. Still had crashes after moving about a bit. I then deactivated UL and the UL Patches through OBMM, ran LandMagic.exe again, and rebuilt the Bashed Patch. Still crashing.

 

New Load order:

 

 

 

00 Oblivion.esm

01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.2]

02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

04 Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

05 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]

06 Better Cities Resources.esm

07 HorseCombatMaster.esm

08 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.3.4]

09 UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0]

0A Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

0B DLCShiveringIsles.esp

0C Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.1]

++ MOBS SI.esp [Version 1.2.2a]

0D Better Cities .esp

0E Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael.esp

0F Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

10 All Natural.esp [Version 1.2]

11 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.2]

12 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

13 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.2]

++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.78]

14 moDem's City Life - BP Compat.esp

15 Streamline 2.1.esp

16 DLCHorseArmor.esp

17 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

18 DLCVileLair.esp

19 DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]

1A DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

1B DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

1C DLCThievesDen.esp

1D DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]

** DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]

1E Francesco's Optional Files.esp

1F Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]

20 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]

++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]

21 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

22 DLCFrostcrag.esp

23 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]

24 Knights.esp

25 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1]

26 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

27 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]

++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]

++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]

28 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]

29 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]

2A quickstart.esp

2B MidasSpells.esp

2C Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.esp

2D DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

2E Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5]

++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.78]

++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.78]

2F Beautiful People.esp

30 Better Cities Full.esp

31 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

32 Better Imperial City.esp

33 Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp

34 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp

** Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 4.8.1]

35 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 4.8.1]

36 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp

37 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1]

38 Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp

39 Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

3A Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]

** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.2]

3B LandMagicPatch.esp

3C Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

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I can't spot anything in your load list that would cause crashing, and your load list looks good now. I would suggest one thing, though: I have a HD-4870 and I can't run VWD without a great strain on the graphics card. So with your 4850 you might want to consider removing that. Do you have any other non-plugin add-ons, like OBSE plugins, Quarl's Textures etc?
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The only "graphical" mods I'm running now are Natural Environments and All Natural (I deactivated/removed UL and its patches). I considered VWD and Qarl's but figured my comp wouldn't run it.

 

The only plugins I have in the data\obse\plugins are weOCPS, NifSE, and Elys Universal Silent Voice. I dunno about plugins other than OBSE.

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The only "graphical" mods I'm running now are Natural Environments and All Natural (I deactivated/removed UL and its patches). I considered VWD and Qarl's but figured my comp wouldn't run it.

 

If that's the case, then perhaps this is your problem:

31 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp

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I deleted that through WyreBash, rebuilt and did LODGen. Nope, still crashing. =(

 

EDIT: I have Wyre Bas 280, installed through the Archive way (I got it through the TCOM compilation torrent). Would installing and doing the ordering/rebuilding/lodgenning though the latest WyreBash do anything? If yes, can I just run the new installer?

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I deleted that through WyreBash, rebuilt and did LODGen. Nope, still crashing. =(

 

EDIT: I have Wyre Bas 280, installed through the Archive way (I got it through the TCOM compilation torrent). Would installing and doing the ordering/rebuilding/lodgenning though the latest WyreBash do anything? If yes, can I just run the new installer?

 

I'm not sure if the installer removes (or needs to) old files, but I would delete your \Oblivion\mopy\ folder, and check what version of Python you have. You will need the Wrye Python 03a archive, which installs Python 26. So uninstall any version of Python other than 26 before you start.

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