AltreU Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 After reading so much speculation and fan "what ifs", I got to wondering... what about an Elder Scroll playing an important role in the game? Alduin was shown in prophecies to come and destroy the world and recreate it. The Elder Scrolls, though, have the ability to reveal the future (at the cost of your sight, naturally...) in more than one instance. As said in the UESP article on Divining the Elder Scrolls-...of night. The Elder Scrolls themselves can pierce the veil. They offer a view of the flux of Time itself. The prophet who reads the scroll sees one version of what might be. Another prophet might have a different vision with equal veracity. The price for insight is the reader's sight. He is struck blind and... As stated, where one prophet reads one thing, another reading the exact same scroll may see something totally different. I'm thinking if incorporated, it'd be awesome to quest for a scroll and have to find someone that has the capability of divining from the scroll an alternative path for the future of Nirn other than it having to be destroyed and recreated. Maybe it describes a way for your hero to get strong enough to challenge the dragon-god fairly. Maybe it foretells of you sacrificing yourself to save the land. Or maybe it simply says, "Sorry, wrong number." What are your thoughts on how an Elder Scroll could be incorporated into Skyrim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldarion Thorondir Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 It is funny because I was wondering the same thing. When I first played The Elder Scrolls IV, I was like : Okay, what about the Scrolls ? I realize that the only moment when we're talking about the Scrolls is when you have to steal one for the Grey Fox. As you said it, in the Elder Scrolls it is said that Alduin will come and destroy the world. Logically they should have a greater place in the story of The Elder Scrolls V. How ? Well, as you said, it'd be "awesome" to actually have an opportunity to read the Scrolls differently. But, if I remember correctly, the Elder Scrolls are all in the Elder Scrolls Library so I don't see how we could possibly have an access to them. Or, we could have to find someone who received and read the Scroll you once stole... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordWushin Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 The only thing that comes to mind is the fact that in every game the elder scrolls are what 'brought' the occasion about, or told about the problem. Morrowind to me was the last game where you were actually playing because the scroll said someone would become Nerviner(phone spelling) and the emperor thought it was you somehow. Oblivion was not the case, from what know, I may not know the whole backstory. Skyrim on the other hand, is like MW the way the story is depicted by the scrolls. I do not foresee any interaction as in Oblivion were you actually steal one of the scrolls. Unless those voice guys have some!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisintergrateHorseArmor Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 After reading so much speculation and fan "what ifs", I got to wondering... what about an Elder Scroll playing an important role in the game? Alduin was shown in prophecies to come and destroy the world and recreate it. The Elder Scrolls, though, have the ability to reveal the future (at the cost of your sight, naturally...) in more than one instance. As said in the UESP article on Divining the Elder Scrolls-...of night. The Elder Scrolls themselves can pierce the veil. They offer a view of the flux of Time itself. The prophet who reads the scroll sees one version of what might be. Another prophet might have a different vision with equal veracity. The price for insight is the reader's sight. He is struck blind and... As stated, where one prophet reads one thing, another reading the exact same scroll may see something totally different. I'm thinking if incorporated, it'd be awesome to quest for a scroll and have to find someone that has the capability of divining from the scroll an alternative path for the future of Nirn other than it having to be destroyed and recreated. I interpret this a little differently. I get the sense that when it says people may have different visions but both with equal veracity(Conformity to facts; accuracy) it means that while the visions may take a different route, the destination is always the same. The future is what it is, there are many ways to get there, but you'll always end up at the same point. Also, if different people were having visions with differing outcomes, you think that these people would be saying so. That it would be documented that there are indeed different outcomes to what the elderscrolls are predicting. To my knowledge, there are no acounts of this that exist. But if they did, and people were getting different readings from the scrolls, then you would have to take into question the validity of any and all predictions seen through the scrolls. This is simply not the case, as they have been proven true, time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltreU Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) It's described somewhere in the UESP that the different visions come from the infinitely varying paths in time. The fluxes of time would cause this as said in the quote. I interpreted the part about the different visions of equal veracity meaning that both paths are equally possible or factual due to them having happened in another path of time, in which they could have different outcomes. I assumed that the advantage in using them is that you get to see these paths in the first place, which might allow you to set the gears of your life to have your story unwind in that way and that someone else seeing it may still see a different story and may be able to change his path according to what he saw. Seeing as there are theoretically infinite paths in time, I'd think it a valid possibility. Though your point would be possible if so as well. Of course, anything I say here is pure speculation, but that's the fun of it! =) Edited February 25, 2011 by AltreU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonkr Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Well they are much more complex then we think. They are never obsolete. What has been seen will happen. Not only is it archive of the past but also the future. Those gifted to be able to read the scrolls are stripped of their vision, however it gives them a new dimension of vision. What has been predicted will happend and there is no way it will not. As I said they are never obsolete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltreU Posted February 25, 2011 Author Share Posted February 25, 2011 Well they are much more complex then we think. They are never obsolete. What has been seen will happen. Not only is it archive of the past but also the future. Those gifted to be able to read the scrolls are stripped of their vision, however it gives them a new dimension of vision. What has been predicted will happend and there is no way it will not. As I said they are never obsolete. Er... I don't think anyone that posted mentioned the scrolls becoming "obsolete". It seems that everyone is aware that they can see the future, which is by divination, possibly using the scroll as a scrying tool (like a crystal ball). I'm curious to know peoples theories on how they'd be implemented in Skyrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrunchyMoogle Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 It's to my understanding that each TES game is actually literally a chapter in the Elder Scrolls. What your character does and everything is what that chapter is about. I think Arena said this in the credits somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AltreU Posted February 26, 2011 Author Share Posted February 26, 2011 The Elder Scrolls indeed contain the past as well, but I don't think that the line shown is talking about the in game scrolls. It seems like it's talking about the game series, of course I could be wrong. I've seen somewhere in Oblivion or the UESP that the scrolls retain permanently any information on any significant event or maybe even life itself like it's automatically archiving existence (which might be an overstatement...). I think they're tools made by the Aedra used to retain information on the mortal realm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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