AshSparkle Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Hi, I'm running the latest Skyrim LE with mods installed through MO (the folder is separated from Skyrim's own game folder, both are in an SSD). I used LOOT to sort out my mods and wrye bash to build bash patch, TES5edit to clean mods, all done through MO. So I followed Gopher's guide in cleaning the Update.esm, Dawnguard.esm, hearthfire.esm, and dragonborn.esm. After that, I rebuilt my bash patch and launched the game, the game CTDed to desktop at launch. I tried to restore the dirty .ems's and rebuilt the patch, the game launched fine and save game was fine loading. Next, I tried to clean update.esm only, and launch the game without bash patch, it loaded fine. I tried to rebuild bash patch next by merging levelled list, stats and names. And the game CTD again at launch. So it seems like there's something in my bash patch that's messing with the cleaned Update.esm? Seems like my bash patch only works with the dirty .esm's. Anyone experienced it? 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp 3 3 Dawnguard.esm 4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp 5 5 HearthFires.esm 6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp 7 7 Dragonborn.esm 8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp 9 9 Falskaar.esm 10 a SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm 11 b Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 12 c Inn Girls Resources.esm 13 d Campfire.esm 14 e ETaC - RESOURCES.esm 15 f TravellersOfSkyrim.esm 16 10 JSwords.esm 17 11 RaceCompatibility.esm 18 12 ApachiiHairFemales.esm 19 13 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Brawl Bugs CE.esp 20 14 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp 21 15 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp 22 16 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp 23 17 ETaC - Complete.esp 24 18 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp 25 19 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp 26 1a Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 27 1b CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp 28 1c Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 29 1d Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp 30 1e Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp 31 1f Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 32 20 RealShelter.esp 33 21 RealShelter_ETAC13.esp 34 22 SoS - The Wilds.esp 35 23 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp 36 24 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp 37 25 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp 38 26 Civil War Overhaul.esp 39 27 SoS - Civilization.esp 40 28 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp 41 29 SoS - The Dungeons.esp 42 2a ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp 43 2b Immersive Whiterun.esp 44 2c Immersive Solstheim.esp 45 2d Immersive Weapons.esp 46 2e WATER DG + DB.esp 47 2f Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 48 30 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 49 31 BetterQuestObjectives.esp 50 32 BetterQuestObjectives-PerMaPatch.esp 51 33 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp 52 34 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp 53 35 Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp 54 36 Inigo.esp 55 37 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp 56 38 PerMa Fixes.esp 57 39 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 58 3a WATER-RND Legendary Patch.esp 59 3b RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp 60 3c RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp 61 3d RND_USKP-Patch.esp 62 3e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 63 3f dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp 64 40 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp 65 41 Convenient Horses.esp 66 42 Immersive NPC in the dark.esp 67 43 WetandCold.esp 68 44 WetandCold - Ashes.esp 69 45 VioLens.esp 70 46 RND_ETaC-Patch.esp 71 47 WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp 72 48 WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp 73 49 WarmongerArmory_LeveledList.esp 74 4a SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp 75 4b Cloaks.esp 76 4c UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 77 4d BetterQuestObjectives-UFOPatch.esp 78 4e JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp 79 4f Immersive Patrols II.esp 80 50 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 81 51 Dr_Bandolier.esp 82 52 TravellersOfSkyrim - UFO Compatibility Patch.esp 83 53 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp 84 54 SabreFurBag.esp 85 55 TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn and Bags and Pouches Addon.esp 86 56 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 87 57 SoSFC.esp 88 58 1nivWICCloaks.esp 89 59 SFO - Dragonborn.esp 90 5a HoamaiiClearskyHideout.esp 91 5b Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp 92 5c Immersive Wenches.esp LIAT - Sounds.esp 93 5d RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp 94 5e RND_AnimalLoot.esp 95 5f More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp 96 60 Immersive Wenches RND-patch.esp 97 61 WATER Plants.esp 98 62 SoS - The Dungeons-PatchCoTHardcore.esp 99 63 SkyUI.esp100 64 Hunterborn.esp101 65 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp102 66 Hunterborn Campfire Patch.esp103 67 Argonian Access.esp LIAT - NPCs.esp104 68 LIAT - Less NPCs.esp105 69 BlackSacramentArmor.esp106 6a BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp107 6b zz_GDRAHoods.esp108 6c Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp109 6d HBetterBows.esp110 6e RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp111 6f TrueEyesNingheimPatch.esp112 70 The Ningheim.esp113 71 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp114 72 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp115 73 CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp116 74 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp117 75 Raven Witch Armor.esp118 76 CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp119 77 Bijin Warmaidens.esp120 78 SoSFC Cloaks.esp121 79 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp122 7a Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp123 7b Duel - Combat Realism.esp124 7c HeartBreaker.esp125 7d RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp126 7e PCEA - 0 - DG and DB DLC - All Races.esp127 7f HitStop.esp128 80 TKcombat.esp129 81 Dual Sheath Redux.esp130 82 MultiCoreShot.esp131 83 Tempest.esp132 84 RapidSlash.esp133 85 RhoAias.esp134 86 PulleysButterfly.esp135 87 Better Dynamic Snow.esp RSPatch.esp136 88 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp137 89 RevampedExteriorFog.esp138 8a ENB Snow FX.esp139 8b Moss Rocks.esp140 8c WATER Falskaar.esp141 8d Water-RND Falskaar Patch.esp142 8e SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp143 8f SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp144 90 Headtracking.esp145 91 towConversation.esp146 92 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp147 93 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp148 94 RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp LPSleep.esp149 95 FollowerWander2.esp150 96 FollowerWander2Serana.esp151 97 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp152 98 DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp153 99 iHUD.esp154 9a CoT-WeatherPatch_NL2.esp155 9b WondersofWeather.esp156 9c TKDodge.esp157 9d ForgottenMagic_Redone_PerMa Patch.esp158 9e PerMa-Hunterborn.esp159 9f PerMa_USKP master patch.esp160 a0 Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp161 a1 Pre PaMa CCF Wintermyst Patch.esp162 a2 imp_helm_legend.esp163 a3 Pre PaMa CCOR Patch.esp164 a4 JSwords_Load_Screens.esp165 a5 Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp166 a6 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp167 a7 Improved Dragon Shouts.esp168 a8 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp169 a9 AchieveThat.esp170 aa Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp171 ab ABT - Kevkas All-in-One.esp172 ac ElementalArrows.esp173 ad UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp174 ae UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp175 af bugi_quicksave.esp176 b0 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp177 b1 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederikshadows Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Ive been in that position. What works for me is just leaving the game 's files alone and never install that many mods at once, also your patch should be after everything else in your load order, yes even after the DSR patch. Remember the bashed patch is suppossed to "overwrite" everything so resources and data is loaded through it. Its a sort of directions guide for your items/animations/meshes/etc. Remember to install all the patches you need then run the bash patch application and keep that file at the bottom. Besides avoiding the installation of so many mods all at once, cause that causes you pain to find the one causing troubles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoSxorpio Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 Be sure that when cleaning, you only load the plugin that you mean to clean. (If you mean to clean Dragonborn.esm, select and check only DB esm, TES5Edit will load any mastered plugins automatically.) DSR does not have any records that would interfere with Bashed Patch...load it after, the patcher looks for new weapon types to add to its lists for left/back meshes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshSparkle Posted July 31, 2015 Author Share Posted July 31, 2015 I finally narrow down the problematic mod. It was RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp from Groovtama's XPMS Extended. But it doesn't seem like it was that straightforward. After cleaning my DLCs and deactivating all the mods, I activated the mods batches by batches. that particular .esp played nice in the beginning until a point where CTD started at launch. But by then I kinda lost track of which mods clashes with that .esp AND the cleaned .esm's. After deactivating that problematic .esp. The game launched flawlessly with bashed patch,. Thank goodness Papyrus log was helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoSxorpio Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 XPMSE has been fully updated recently. It may be possible that updating that mod could resolve the issue. Good luck! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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