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Skyrim Crash at Launch after Cleaning


AshSparkle

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Hi,

 

I'm running the latest Skyrim LE with mods installed through MO (the folder is separated from Skyrim's own game folder, both are in an SSD). I used LOOT to sort out my mods and wrye bash to build bash patch, TES5edit to clean mods, all done through MO.

 

So I followed Gopher's guide in cleaning the Update.esm, Dawnguard.esm, hearthfire.esm, and dragonborn.esm.

 

After that, I rebuilt my bash patch and launched the game, the game CTDed to desktop at launch.

 

I tried to restore the dirty .ems's and rebuilt the patch, the game launched fine and save game was fine loading.

 

Next, I tried to clean update.esm only, and launch the game without bash patch, it loaded fine.

 

I tried to rebuild bash patch next by merging levelled list, stats and names. And the game CTD again at launch.

 

So it seems like there's something in my bash patch that's messing with the cleaned Update.esm? Seems like my bash patch only works with the dirty .esm's.

 

Anyone experienced it?

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
3 3 Dawnguard.esm
4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
5 5 HearthFires.esm
6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
7 7 Dragonborn.esm
8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
9 9 Falskaar.esm
10 a SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm
11 b Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
12 c Inn Girls Resources.esm
13 d Campfire.esm
14 e ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
15 f TravellersOfSkyrim.esm
16 10 JSwords.esm
17 11 RaceCompatibility.esm
18 12 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
19 13 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
20 14 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp
21 15 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
22 16 BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
23 17 ETaC - Complete.esp
24 18 ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp
25 19 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
26 1a Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
27 1b CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
28 1c Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
29 1d Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
30 1e Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp
31 1f Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
32 20 RealShelter.esp
33 21 RealShelter_ETAC13.esp
34 22 SoS - The Wilds.esp
35 23 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp
36 24 PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp
37 25 PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp
38 26 Civil War Overhaul.esp
39 27 SoS - Civilization.esp
40 28 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
41 29 SoS - The Dungeons.esp
42 2a ETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp
43 2b Immersive Whiterun.esp
44 2c Immersive Solstheim.esp
45 2d Immersive Weapons.esp
46 2e WATER DG + DB.esp
47 2f Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
48 30 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
49 31 BetterQuestObjectives.esp
50 32 BetterQuestObjectives-PerMaPatch.esp
51 33 EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp
52 34 PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp
53 35 Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp
54 36 Inigo.esp
55 37 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp
56 38 PerMa Fixes.esp
57 39 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
58 3a WATER-RND Legendary Patch.esp
59 3b RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
60 3c RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
61 3d RND_USKP-Patch.esp
62 3e dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
63 3f dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
64 40 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
65 41 Convenient Horses.esp
66 42 Immersive NPC in the dark.esp
67 43 WetandCold.esp
68 44 WetandCold - Ashes.esp
69 45 VioLens.esp
70 46 RND_ETaC-Patch.esp
71 47 WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp
72 48 WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp
73 49 WarmongerArmory_LeveledList.esp
74 4a SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
75 4b Cloaks.esp
76 4c UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
77 4d BetterQuestObjectives-UFOPatch.esp
78 4e JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp
79 4f Immersive Patrols II.esp
80 50 Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
81 51 Dr_Bandolier.esp
82 52 TravellersOfSkyrim - UFO Compatibility Patch.esp
83 53 TravellersOfSkyrim - Vanilla.esp
84 54 SabreFurBag.esp
85 55 TravellersOfSkyrim - Dragonborn and Bags and Pouches Addon.esp
86 56 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
87 57 SoSFC.esp
88 58 1nivWICCloaks.esp
89 59 SFO - Dragonborn.esp
90 5a HoamaiiClearskyHideout.esp
91 5b Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp
92 5c Immersive Wenches.esp
LIAT - Sounds.esp
93 5d RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
94 5e RND_AnimalLoot.esp
95 5f More Interesting Loot for Skyrim.esp
96 60 Immersive Wenches RND-patch.esp
97 61 WATER Plants.esp
98 62 SoS - The Dungeons-PatchCoTHardcore.esp
99 63 SkyUI.esp
100 64 Hunterborn.esp
101 65 Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
102 66 Hunterborn Campfire Patch.esp
103 67 Argonian Access.esp
LIAT - NPCs.esp
104 68 LIAT - Less NPCs.esp
105 69 BlackSacramentArmor.esp
106 6a BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
107 6b zz_GDRAHoods.esp
108 6c Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
109 6d HBetterBows.esp
110 6e RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
111 6f TrueEyesNingheimPatch.esp
112 70 The Ningheim.esp
113 71 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
114 72 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
115 73 CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
116 74 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
117 75 Raven Witch Armor.esp
118 76 CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp
119 77 Bijin Warmaidens.esp
120 78 SoSFC Cloaks.esp
121 79 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
122 7a Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp
123 7b Duel - Combat Realism.esp
124 7c HeartBreaker.esp
125 7d RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp
126 7e PCEA - 0 - DG and DB DLC - All Races.esp
127 7f HitStop.esp
128 80 TKcombat.esp
129 81 Dual Sheath Redux.esp
130 82 MultiCoreShot.esp
131 83 Tempest.esp
132 84 RapidSlash.esp
133 85 RhoAias.esp
134 86 PulleysButterfly.esp
135 87 Better Dynamic Snow.esp
RSPatch.esp
136 88 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
137 89 RevampedExteriorFog.esp
138 8a ENB Snow FX.esp
139 8b Moss Rocks.esp
140 8c WATER Falskaar.esp
141 8d Water-RND Falskaar Patch.esp
142 8e SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp
143 8f SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp
144 90 Headtracking.esp
145 91 towConversation.esp
146 92 ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp
147 93 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
148 94 RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp
LPSleep.esp
149 95 FollowerWander2.esp
150 96 FollowerWander2Serana.esp
151 97 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
152 98 DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
153 99 iHUD.esp
154 9a CoT-WeatherPatch_NL2.esp
155 9b WondersofWeather.esp
156 9c TKDodge.esp
157 9d ForgottenMagic_Redone_PerMa Patch.esp
158 9e PerMa-Hunterborn.esp
159 9f PerMa_USKP master patch.esp
160 a0 Pre PaMa SiC Patch.esp
161 a1 Pre PaMa CCF Wintermyst Patch.esp
162 a2 imp_helm_legend.esp
163 a3 Pre PaMa CCOR Patch.esp
164 a4 JSwords_Load_Screens.esp
165 a5 Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp
166 a6 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp
167 a7 Improved Dragon Shouts.esp
168 a8 Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp
169 a9 AchieveThat.esp
170 aa Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
171 ab ABT - Kevkas All-in-One.esp
172 ac ElementalArrows.esp
173 ad UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp
174 ae UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
175 af bugi_quicksave.esp
176 b0 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
177 b1 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

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Ive been in that position. What works for me is just leaving the game 's files alone and never install that many mods at once, also your patch should be after everything else in your load order, yes even after the DSR patch. Remember the bashed patch is suppossed to "overwrite" everything so resources and data is loaded through it. Its a sort of directions guide for your items/animations/meshes/etc. Remember to install all the patches you need then run the bash patch application and keep that file at the bottom. Besides avoiding the installation of so many mods all at once, cause that causes you pain to find the one causing troubles.

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Be sure that when cleaning, you only load the plugin that you mean to clean. (If you mean to clean Dragonborn.esm, select and check only DB esm, TES5Edit will load any mastered plugins automatically.)

 

DSR does not have any records that would interfere with Bashed Patch...load it after, the patcher looks for new weapon types to add to its lists for left/back meshes.

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I finally narrow down the problematic mod. It was RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp from Groovtama's XPMS Extended. But it doesn't seem like it was that straightforward.

 

After cleaning my DLCs and deactivating all the mods, I activated the mods batches by batches. that particular .esp played nice in the beginning until a point where CTD started at launch. But by then I kinda lost track of which mods clashes with that .esp AND the cleaned .esm's. After deactivating that problematic .esp. The game launched flawlessly with bashed patch,.

 

Thank goodness Papyrus log was helpful.

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