CTD at Vernon Square can't leave Statesman Hotel

[evilhomer91]

every time I try to leave the statesman the game crashes. I get a loading screen but I dont make it to the street, Ive tried waiting 24 hours but it's no go. Reserch leeds me to suspect a corrupt spawn but I honestly have no Idea.

[evilhomer91]

0 0 Fallout3.esm

1 1 Anchorage.esm

2 2 ThePitt.esm

3 3 StreetLights.esm

4 4 BrokenSteel.esm

5 5 PointLookout.esm

6 6 Zeta.esm

7 7 Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

8 8 CRAFT.esm

9 9 CALIBR.esm

10 a FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

11 b Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

12 c Project Beauty.esm

13 d DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

14 e EVE.esm

15 f Vault 101 Revisited.esm

16 10 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

17 11 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

18 12 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

19 13 Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

20 14 WeaponModKits.esp

21 15 WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

22 16 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

23 17 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

24 18 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

25 19 Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

26 1a Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp

27 1b WMKAA12Shotgun.esp

28 1c WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

29 1d FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

30 1e WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

31 1f FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

32 20 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

33 21 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

34 22 WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

35 23 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

36 24 WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

37 25 WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

38 26 Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

39 27 Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp

40 28 Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp

41 29 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

42 2a BlackWolf Backpack.esp

43 2b BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp

44 2c BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp

45 2d Bobblehead Quest.esp

46 2e F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp

47 2f Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

48 30 GNR Enhanced.esp

49 31 Mart's Mutant Mod - DC Interiors.esp

50 32 .32Pistol_Fix_Revamped.esp

51 33 Dree Perks.esp

52 34 Dree Perks Point Lookout.esp

53 35 Dree Perks Requested by Fans .esp

54 36 Dree Perks Broken Steel.esp

55 37 Dree Perks Mothership Zeta.esp

56 38 Dree Perks Anchorage.esp

57 39 Dree Perks Pitts.esp

58 3a Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

59 3b FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

60 3c FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

61 3d FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp

62 3e homerpatch.esp

[M48A5]

It is a good chance that it is a load order problem, considering the shape of your load order.

 

Please refer to the load order sample on the FWE description page or the Mart's Mutant Mod page.

 

Use only one optional restore tracers and remove unused plugins.

 

Compatibility patches must load after the last mod they are patching.

[evilhomer91]

ajusted lood order still crashs

 

0 0 Fallout3.esm

1 1 Anchorage.esm

2 2 ThePitt.esm

3 3 StreetLights.esm

4 4 BrokenSteel.esm

5 5 PointLookout.esm

6 6 Zeta.esm

7 7 Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

8 8 CRAFT.esm

9 9 CALIBR.esm

10 a Project Beauty.esm

11 b DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

12 c EVE.esm

13 d Vault 101 Revisited.esm

14 e FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

15 f Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

16 10 Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

17 11 Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

18 12 BlackWolf Backpack.esp

19 13 BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp

20 14 BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp

21 15 Dree Perks.esp

22 16 Dree Perks Point Lookout.esp

23 17 Dree Perks Requested by Fans .esp

24 18 Dree Perks Broken Steel.esp

25 19 Dree Perks Mothership Zeta.esp

26 1a Dree Perks Anchorage.esp

27 1b Dree Perks Pitts.esp

28 1c Bobblehead Quest.esp

29 1d GNR Enhanced.esp

30 1e .32Pistol_Fix_Revamped.esp

31 1f FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

32 20 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

33 21 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

34 22 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

35 23 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

36 24 FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

37 25 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Alternate Travel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

38 26 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers.esp

39 27 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp

40 28 FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Project Beauty (Followers Enhanced).esp

41 29 WeaponModKits.esp

42 2a WeaponModKits - FWE Master Release.esp

43 2b WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

44 2c WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

45 2d WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

46 2e WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

47 2f WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

48 30 WMKAA12Shotgun.esp

49 31 Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

50 32 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

51 33 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

52 34 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

53 35 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

54 36 Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

55 37 Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp

56 38 Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release.esp

57 39 Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + Project Beauty.esp

58 3a Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

59 3b Mart's Mutant Mod - FWE Master Release + DLCs.esp

60 3c Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

61 3d Mart's Mutant Mod - DC Interiors.esp

62 3e F3ProjectRealityMkI.esp

63 3f homerpatch.esp

[M48A5]

Make a hard save inside the Statesman Hotel. Disable all your mods and exit the hotel. If the game works, exit the game without a save and add a mod. Start the game with the save inside the hotel and exit. Continue doing this until the game crashes again. The last mod you added will be the one causing the crash.

 

Also, do not use Mart's Mutant Mod-Natural Selection. It is part of FWE. You do not need MMM-FWE Master Release or MMM-Project Beauty with MMM-FWE + Project Beauty.

 

There is an alternative to the Mart's Mutant Mod you are using, the Paradox Ignition version http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/16787/?

 

With that you can use the Blackened patches http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/18173/?

Edited August 4, 2015 by M48A5

[Purr4me]

I was not fast enough, nut's, any way, I built your game based on what you posted here.

Some things I could not find, for that I would need a saved game with the problem in it to duplicate it.

But, in the Spoiler tag here.

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
CRAFT.esm
CALIBR.esm
Project Beauty.esm
Vault 101 Revisited.esm
EVE.esm
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp
Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp
Dree Perks.esp
Dree Perks Anchorage.esp
Dree Perks Pitts.esp
Dree Perks Broken Steel.esp
Dree Perks Point Lookout.esp
BlackWolf Backpack.esp
BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp
BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp
FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp
FWE - Weightless Ammo.esp
WeaponModKits.esp
WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp
WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp
WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp
WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp
WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp
WMKAA12Shotgun.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Increased Spawns.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Soft Unleveler.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Dynamic Player Scaling.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp
Verified Combined bugs.esp

 

is the load order as close to what you need.

I also made a patch for all of this code I have so far too...if you want it.

 

:ninja: again. :geek:

[evilhomer91]

I was not fast enough, nut's, any way, I built your game based on what you posted here.

Some things I could not find, for that I would need a saved game with the problem in it to duplicate it.

But, in the Spoiler tag here.

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm

CRAFT.esm

CALIBR.esm

Project Beauty.esm

Vault 101 Revisited.esm

EVE.esm

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

Project Beauty- Broken Steel.esp

Project Beauty- Point Lookout.esp

Dree Perks.esp

Dree Perks Anchorage.esp

Dree Perks Pitts.esp

Dree Perks Broken Steel.esp

Dree Perks Point Lookout.esp

BlackWolf Backpack.esp

BlackWolf Backpack - Vendor Script Replenish.esp

BlackWolf Backpack - Blank's Container Patch.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Main File.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Anchorage.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC The Pitt.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Broken Steel.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Point Lookout.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - DLC Mothership Zeta.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Followers Enhanced (BrokenSteel).esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional VATS Realtime.esp

FO3 Wanderers Edition - Optional Restore Tracers (automatics only).esp

FWE - Weightless Ammo.esp

WeaponModKits.esp

WeaponModKits - OperationAnchorage.esp

WeaponModKits - ThePitt.esp

WeaponModKits - BrokenSteel.esp

WeaponModKits - PointLookout.esp

WeaponModKits - Zeta.esp

WMKAA12Shotgun.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Feral Ghoul Rampage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Increased Increased Spawns.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Hunting & Looting.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Soft Unleveler.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Dynamic Player Scaling.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Project Beauty.esp

Verified Combined bugs.esp

 

 

is the load order as close to what you need.

I also made a patch for all of this code I have so far too...if you want it.

 

:ninja: again. :geek:

If you think it could help. also would it help if I post/link my save? I've never done that before but if it helps me get back to my modded adventure.

[Purr4me]

Firfoxe ...might as well protect you all the way...Firefox browser, add ghostery to it so it blocks adds on other sites.

 

FGo here and make an account (http://www.2shared.com/) you can upload the saved data there and be safe, when it's uploaded it will give you a windows with the data needed to post a link here...you say you have not done so..well, in this window, next to what looks like a picture are 2 chain links, you want to pick the first one, that opens a window for the data on your link you want to post here. select ok, and presto, there is a link we can use.

 

I can give an example..http://s26.postimg.org/dbqlht11l/EX_1.jpg that shows what pops up, and you will notice there is no adds there because ghostery removes all of that..so think before you leap...it's your choice.

here is the link for the patch that matches the above data (http://www.2shared.com/file/f5FwntNY/Verified_Combined_bugsesp.html)

 

this was done in an early version Of Mod Organizer to match the date codes of the mods. these mods are all Original as they once were.

I developed the patch using that code base, it is not "updated / smashed together data missing stuff. it's full loaded base game data.

all mesh files, all textures all plugins raw untouched by any tools other than Mo and the Geck.

 

Down and dirty as it can get. If you do upload your saved game i can go right to that spot and see if I experience the same problems you have.

It's just an offer, take it ? or leave it.

kitty

[evilhomer91]

OK, if im not totaly incompetent this should be it

 

http://www.2shared.com/file/KB0QuyCe/Save_114_-_Homer_vladamer_The_.html

 

as for that combined bugs esp, I just put it at the bottom of my load order in my mod manager correct?

[M48A5]

Use only one of the Followers Enhanced, if you choose to include this.

 

Disable and uninstall Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders, Zones Respawn and Natural Selection. It has been incorporated into FO3 Wanderer's Edition.

 

Don't forget to get the appropriate compatibility patches and to remake your merged patch.