NAPALM13092 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 I think Bethesda will handle dragons well in Skyrim. In the Warcraft universe they are too easily identified with and dragons just seem more like people than they do mythical creatures. I like the concept of intelligent dragons that can communicate and I feel Bethseda will pull that off and still make them feel like dragons with this sense of great power and an aura of mystery to them unlike WoW where I can just go chill with Alexstraza and talk about hockey and politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazakovich Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Agreed. And honestly, next time, I'll bring the poor lass a bathrobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtoise3213 Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 (edited) And on the WoW-dragons again; if I remember correctly, there were dragons way back in Warcraft II, albeit a fairly generic kind. WoW does have a history before 2005, y'know. :3 Was it around in 1994? Edited April 3, 2011 by turtoise3213 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderCrazy Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 Maybe, they could script it so you DID encounter a dragon as you exit the tutorial place, but not have to fight it. Just, like, see it flying from afar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazakovich Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 That would be the best. Just to establish that yes, there are dragons and you will have to confront them at some point. Setting the scene without employing dragoniffic fanservice. Perhaps it could go as far as immolate a few bystanders or something, to underline the massive power-gap that needs to be overcome before you can hope to defeat it. And on the Warcraft II-comment; no, it wasn't. But I weren't trying to get into the "Who did it first?"-arguement, I was attempting to point out that the whole Warcraft-mythos weren't made up on the spot around -05, and the dragons thrown in (colour-coded for our convenience) as an afterthought. Of course, that doesn't do them much good, now that they're being wringed out for marketing purposes all the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elderiii Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Well Dragons are supposed to be in the leveled list, so I imagine we could run into them at random once we attain a certain level. I would suspect that we won't have to fight them right at the start though, I don't think the devs want everyone to die in the first 2 minutes.... hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarshyMan Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I don't think Skyrim is in any danger of being like WoW and I think dragons will be an exciting and interesting touch to the game as a whole. I understand why you would be concerned but I honestly don't think there's anything to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazakovich Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 (edited) Note; because I haven't mastered the quote-function, I'll be lazy and simply type the name I'm responding to. It's not a very chaotic thread, so it's easy as pie to scroll up and read the original. Elder III: Are they? Right, not exactly what I would have prefered, but it could work quite well, too. I've heard that the new leveling-list will work more like the one they kept in Fallout 3, which was much better than the one in Oblivion, in my opinion. I hope that dragons will end up in a similar filing as the Deathclaws in that game. Y'know, there are some locations on the map where they always are (areas far away from the initial zones the player can be expected to explore), but they won't appear in other places in the world until the player character have reached an acceptable level. It's a good balance, lets them remain somewhat iconic and smoothen the transition somewhat, unlike how suddenly, the peaceful forests and fields of Cyrodiil would suddenly be claimed by a virtual horde of angry bears. Also, these dragon-clubhouses, so to speak, could serve as a top-tier exploration/loot goal, something to look forward to as you level up. Some great challenge hovering ahead once you're beginning to run low on locations to loot. As long as the dragons remain somewhat aloof and special, and carrying a lot of weight in story and appearance, compared to, say, them bleedin' bears. MarshyMan: Yes, it is better to live in hope. Bethesda make some silly descisions every now and then, but generally, they can be trusted to do a good job, in my opinion. I doubt they would be so detached from their own franchise and the art of fiction in general to over-expose them dragons, and I think they can very well keep a good balance going. Of course, I'm pretty sure most poor descisions are rooted in the directions of producers rather than designers, however. I am leaning slightly on a stereotype now, but they can usually be rightfully accused of being rather detached from what they're trying to sell. While we might see a fascinating mythological creature that can be used in exciting ways to drive a story and help characterize a world as long as it's handled with responsibility and thought, they will just see "Something nerds like and will cough up money for". But most sings so far seem to point that Bethesda have unusually free reign with their own franchises, so there is reason to have high hopes that the balance will be maintained. And if it does end up just being some boiled-down "Dwagons!! (and Vikings, too!)" mess, it will still hold the bones of, at least from what we can piece together at the moment, a sturdy, top-shelf RPG. Not even the worst case scenario is that bad. Edited April 5, 2011 by Kazakovich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainstorm2010 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 what i mean is all the dragons and stuff i hope its not like wow with the black dragons and the red ones ect ect like i kind of find that skinda stupid.... if you disagree your entilted to your own opinion but dont troll... its very anoying :) I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say here when you say "all the dragons and stuff i hope its not like wow with the black dragons and the red ones". Did you mean that you think the variety in colors is stupid in your opinion? Or did you mean that with the dragons being intelligent and being able to communicate with the people is what you found stupid? In my opinion, I find intelligent dragons with tremendous power being far more fascinating and worthy foes than the stupid wild animal-like dragons incapable of speech and do nothing but roar and cause chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketchy77 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 (edited) A dragon's a dragon, it will kick ass either way :\ Edited April 16, 2011 by Sketchy77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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