gromulos Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) then most likely you are either missing a master file or a patch file for one of your mods You're going to have to go back and read the description pages for each one of your mods and make sure you didn't miss installing another mod they need or a patch file to make 2 mods work together. One of the mods I know that needs a patch file for many other mods is Realistic Needs and Diseases, IE: pure waters, drinking fountains of skyrim, Frostfall, and so on... here is my own load order so you can see what I am talking about how load order works and the patches i was talking about http://pastebin.com/QGbA0h3h some of the patches i was refferring to are located at lines 76 - 80 - for that one mod i have to use 5 patch files so that it will work with all 5 other mods, below 49 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp4A RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp4B RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp4C RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp4D RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp notice also how I kept the patch files in the same order as the DLC's - a lot of people miss this and then wonder why they have problems with a "perfect" load order Edited September 23, 2015 by gromulos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInvisibleGuardian Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Alright here's my new load order but the game is still crashing :sad: Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espFalskaar.esmWyrmstooth.espApachiiHair.esmLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esmmoonpath.esmClimatesOfTamriel.esmMagicDuelReborn.esmCampfire.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espUnofficial High Resolution Patch.espStar Wars Imperial Credits.espELFX - Exteriors.espimmersive roads.espSkyRe_Main.espAmazingFollowerTweaks.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espoverhaul.espoverhaul4E.espBluePalace.espThe Shrines of Auriel.espELFXEnhancer.espWetandCold.espHelgen Reborn.espRealisticWaterTwo.espAOS.espRealistic Lighting.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espImmersive Weapons.espUBWRe.espRealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.espThunderchild - Epic Shout Package.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espBellyachesNewDragonSpecies.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espCloaks.espSkyRe_EnemyScaling.espMoria.espGlass Variants.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espvAutosaveManager.espBecomeKingofSkyrim.espSMIM-Merged-All.espmoonpath_questdata.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves.espMoonstoneCastle.espImmersive Patrols II.espImmersive Followers.espELFX - Moonpath.espoverhaulDG.espDr_Bandolier.espBeards.espGraesholt - Bleakcoast Cave Easter Egg Improved.espCloaks - Dawnguard.espDK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.espDual Wield Parrying_SKSE.espThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.espDwarvenMech.espSkyrim Flora Overhaul.espResurrectDragon.espSkyRe_StandingStones.espThe Force.espSkyRe_Races.espMidas Magic Expanded.espSFO - Dragonborn.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.espSkyRe_EnemyAI.espStarWarsRaces.espRealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esparmored-horses.espFaallokaar.espConvenient Horses.espPhenderix's Magic Evolved.espDwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.espP1FlyingRing.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espdD-Larger Splatter Size.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.espFalskaar_Water_Fix.espFlowing Cape.espFootprints.espFNISspells.espGloriousGrass.espGreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espiHUD.espImproved Dragon Shouts.espImproved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.espImproved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.espImproved Dragonrend Shout.espAncientRefuge.espThunderfury - Johnskyrim.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.espRealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.espNordic Wanderer.espJoOJediRobeV2.espSkyRe_Combat.espSethai&Elthrai.espsupersuit.espAssassinsCreedArmor.espMedusa and Drakul Armors.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espApocalypse - Dragonborn Staff Crafting.espEvil MasterMind Armor.espInsanity's Goldbrand.espJoOPraetorian.espAlduin78_StarWars.espEpisodeParallax.espMagicka Sabers.espThanatos Dragonx.espAHZmoreHUD.espRadiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.espSithRace.espAltair`s sword.espUBW.espUnique Uniques.espWarmongerArmory_Vanilla.espWarmongerArmory_DLC.espChesko_WearableLantern.espBattlemage Armour.espTheOneRing.espUrukHaiArmor.espSupernatural Jump.espWerewolves Jump Higher.espAOS2_EBT Patch.espAOS2_CoT3_1_patch.espAOS2_GDO Patch.espAOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.espAOS2_WetandCold Patch.esptomahawkaciiiwepmod.espaciiibowandarrows.espezio's armor.espAMatterOfTime.espElemental_Dragons.espAnimated Dragon Wings.espMore Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.espMore Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings.espMore Draconic Dragon Aspect - Flying Mod Addon.espDSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.espABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.espABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.espABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +100%.espABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +100%.espABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.espMore_Saddles.espNordic Wanderer Dawnguard.espSkyUI.espSkyTweak.espThunderchild - Dragon Language Words Patch.espThunderchild - Magic Duel Reborn Compatibility Patch.espAuto Unequip Ammo.espRealistic Lighting Patcher.espDaedraHuntress.espDaedricMask.espWetandCold - Ashes.espWatercolor_for_ENB_RWT.espThe Force SKYRE patch.espBashed Patch, 0.espReProccer.esp then most likely you are either missing a master file or a patch file for one of your mods You're going to have to go back and read the description pages for each one of your mods and make sure you didn't miss installing another mod they need or a patch file to make 2 mods work together. One of the mods I know that needs a patch file for many other mods is Realistic Needs and Diseases, IE: pure waters, drinking fountains of skyrim, Frostfall, and so on... here is my own load order so you can see what I am talking about how load order works and the patches i was talking about http://pastebin.com/QGbA0h3h some of the patches i was refferring to are located at lines 76 - 80 - for that one mod i have to use 5 patch files so that it will work with all 5 other mods, below 49 RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp4A RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp4B RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp4C RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp4D RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp notice also how I kept the patch files in the same order as the DLC's - a lot of people miss this and then wonder why they have problems with a "perfect" load order. Edited September 23, 2015 by Dragonborne654 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 ok try moving these files like I have them on my load order, don't worry if you don't have all of the same files i do http://snag.gy/spMq8.jpg The reason you want all the SKYre files at the bottom is because SKYre is an overhaul mod, so all other files EXCEPT the Reproccer, SKYui, Followers, and the bashed patch should be above it. Skyui should be where I have it because it is a mod management mod, so once again all other files should be above it EXCEPT the Reproccer and the bashed patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInvisibleGuardian Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 ok try moving these files like I have them on my load order, don't worry if you don't have all of the same files i do http://snag.gy/spMq8.jpg The reason you want all the SKYre files at the bottom is because SKYre is an overhaul mod, so all other files EXCEPT the Reproccer, SKYui, Followers, and the bashed patch should be above it. Skyui should be where I have it because it is a mod management mod, so once again all other files should be above it EXCEPT the Reproccer and the bashed patch.so do all the overhaul mods go on the bottom or just skyre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 just SKYre, you want it to overhaul everything else, it won't touch mods like flora and sound overhauls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInvisibleGuardian Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 just SKYre, you want it to overhaul everything else, it won't touch mods like flora and sound overhauls I disabled my mods to run the game vanilla but it still crashed. To be honest I don't know what I'm dealing with here and I even uninstalled the game too and that didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andr920 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Did vanilla crash like right now or before you went through gromulous' guide & tips? If so, Verify Game Files in Steam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInvisibleGuardian Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 Did vanilla crash like right now or before you went through gromulous' guide & tips? If so, Verify Game Files in Steam.It crashed afterwards but I'll try verifying the game cache. I didn't want to do it before because I cleaned the dlc and update files with TES5Edit. :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gromulos Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 UGH! you NEVER clean the DLC, N E V E R! NEVER ever clean any of the vanilla files, ugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andr920 Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 UGH! you NEVER clean the DLC, N E V E R! NEVER ever clean any of the vanilla files, ugh!I'm still unsure about that. I get the logic of why not but the STEP project, a few modders and a few youtube ppl that explain skyrim modding recommend to do it (gopher, gamerpoets, etc.)From personal testing I haven't seen any difference, others say that dawnguard crashes less, but then again I can't get my skyrim to run anyway. Example: http://wiki.step-project.com/Dawnguard scroll a bit and you see the recommend to clean it twice actually. In any case, try without cleaning the DLCs, make sure it works then you can play around and see if there's any difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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