Skyrim Crashing on Loading Screen (CTD)

[gromulos]

when you clean DLC's it's not like you're cleaning a regular mod. A regular mod adds to the DLC's. When you are cleaning any mod you are removing links, those broken links are what causes your game to suddenly start acting up when your character is level 30, 40, and so on , IE later in the game. Believe me people I've been doing mod help for years now and I have seen this happen again and again since the very beginning. There are other numerous people in the chat room that will tell you the same thing, some of those people learned the hard way exactly as I stated above. I NEVER clean any of the vanilla files and I have never had any problems from not doing so.

[andr920]

when you clean DLC's it's not like you're cleaning a regular mod. A regular mod adds to the DLC's. When you are cleaning any mod you are removing links, those broken links are what causes your game to suddenly start acting up when your character is level 30, 40, and so on , IE later in the game. Believe me people I've been doing mod help for years now and I have seen this happen again and again since the very beginning. There are other numerous people in the chat room that will tell you the same thing, some of those people learned the hard way exactly as I stated above. I NEVER clean any of the vanilla files and I have never had any problems from not doing so.

From what I understand the only "links" you are actually removing when cleaning are records that exist in the esp/esm that are identical to ones in Skyrim.esm hence named ITM Records.

By definition of identical these are records than don't need to exist and getting rid of them should instead make it easier for the game engine to look up these records (using knowledge of game making here..)

The second step is Undeleting records, usually navmeshes. From what I know about navmeshes they shouldn't affect the game's stability as they exist for NPC pathing. Here I'm not exactly sure why it is beneficial or not but I shall look into it.

 

So yes mods modify dlcs, but the "cleaning" that you do doesn't seem to me like it is interfering with that process. Of course if I missed something and important links do get broken then I retract my statement. I am not intricately familiar with how xEdit cleans files so you might be 100% right but it just feels odd to me.

[TheInvisibleGuardian]

 

when you clean DLC's it's not like you're cleaning a regular mod. A regular mod adds to the DLC's. When you are cleaning any mod you are removing links, those broken links are what causes your game to suddenly start acting up when your character is level 30, 40, and so on , IE later in the game. Believe me people I've been doing mod help for years now and I have seen this happen again and again since the very beginning. There are other numerous people in the chat room that will tell you the same thing, some of those people learned the hard way exactly as I stated above. I NEVER clean any of the vanilla files and I have never had any problems from not doing so.

From what I understand the only "links" you are actually removing when cleaning are records that exist in the esp/esm that are identical to ones in Skyrim.esm hence named ITM Records.

By definition of identical these are records than don't need to exist and getting rid of them should instead make it easier for the game engine to look up these records (using knowledge of game making here..)

The second step is Undeleting records, usually navmeshes. From what I know about navmeshes they shouldn't affect the game's stability as they exist for NPC pathing. Here I'm not exactly sure why it is beneficial or not but I shall look into it.

 

So yes mods modify dlcs, but the "cleaning" that you do doesn't seem to me like it is interfering with that process. Of course if I missed something and important links do get broken then I retract my statement. I am not intricately familiar with how xEdit cleans files so you might be 100% right but it just feels odd to me.

 

I'm still not entirely sure what's causing the crashing; I uninstalled/reinstalled the game, uninstalled/reinstalled all of my mods (ran it as vanilla and it was fine), updated my mods to newer versions, followed gromulos' guide, and Skyrim is still crashing

Edited September 26, 2015 by Dragonborne654

[andr920]

Were you running with cleaned dlcs?

Download Skyrim Performance Monitor and run it alongside with Skyrim so we can rule out and memory related issues.

[TheInvisibleGuardian]

Were you running with cleaned dlcs?

 

Download Skyrim Performance Monitor and run it alongside with Skyrim so we can rule out and memory related issues.

I ran Skyrim with and without cleaned dlcs and it's the same result but i'll try the performance monitor.

[andr920]

What is your current load order? Are you running SKSE? and did you Verify Game Files in Steam?

[TheInvisibleGuardian]

What is your current load order? Are you running SKSE? and did you Verify Game Files in Steam?

 

Here is my current load order and yes I'm running SKSE and verified my game files however everytime i run it always says it's missing one file. Could that be the problem? shown here: https://gyazo.com/78364ef64f1f9c0674864298a5dbe17e

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Falskaar.esm

Wyrmstooth.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

moonpath.esm

MagicDuelReborn.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

Campfire.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Star Wars Imperial Credits.esp

tomahawkaciiiwepmod.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

Tamriel Reloaded HD.esp

ELFX - Exteriors.esp

immersive roads.esp

overhaul.esp

overhaul4E.esp

WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esp

ELFXEnhancer.esp

Helgen Reborn.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

WetandCold.esp

AOS.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

Realistic Lighting.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp

Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

BellyachesNewDragonSpecies.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

Cloaks.esp

BecomeKingofSkyrim.esp

SMIM-Merged-All.esp

moonpath_questdata.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

Immersive Followers.esp

aciiibowandarrows.esp

ezio's armor.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +50%.esp

ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +50%.esp

ABT - Increased Bolts Damage (BS and CCO) +150%.esp

ABT - Increased Progressive Damage (BS and CCO) +150%.esp

overhaulDG.esp

ABT - Recover +50% Arrows and Bolts.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

Differently Ebony.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

Animated Dragon Wings.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

StarWarsRaces.esp

The Force.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

ResurrectDragon.esp

Wind Destruction.esp

Midas Magic Expanded.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp

armored-horses.esp

Faallokaar.esp

Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp

Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp

Thunderfury - Johnskyrim.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp

JoOJediRobeV2.esp

Nordic Wanderer.esp

NedhegothTheButcher.esp

AssassinsCreedArmor.esp

Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

Apocalypse - Dragonborn Staff Crafting.esp

DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp

Supernatural Jump.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

vAutosaveManager.esp

Beards.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

Faction Crossbows.esp

Dr_Bandolier.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

DaedricMask.esp

DK_Armor_By_Hothtrooper44.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp

Elemental_Dragons.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

AOS2_EBT Patch.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp

Evil MasterMind Armor.esp

Extended UI.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp

Falskaar_Water_Fix.esp

Flowing Cape.esp

Footprints.esp

FNISspells.esp

GloriousGrass.esp

GreenWaterFix_v2withDawnguard.esp

Grimy Utilities Interface.esp

Unique Uniques.esp

AOS2_GDO Patch.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

iHUD.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp

Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp

Improved Dragonrend Shout.esp

ImprovedHearthfireLighting.esp

JoOPraetorian.esp

Alduin78_StarWars.esp

Magicka Sabers.esp

ELFX - Moonpath.esp

More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp

More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings.esp

More_Saddles.esp

AHZmoreHUD.esp

EpisodeParallax.esp

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE.esp

Realistic Lighting Patcher.esp

Altair`s sword.esp

Thunderchild - Dragon Language Words Patch.esp

Thunderchild - Magic Duel Reborn Compatibility Patch.esp

AOS2_Unique Uniques Patch.esp

WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp

WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp

Watercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp

SpellChargingFramework.esp

SpellComboV2.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

CharacterMakingExtender.esp

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

SithRace.esp

FNISFlyer.esp

Thanatos Dragonx.esp

Battlemage Armour.esp

Nordic Wanderer Dawnguard.esp

SkyTweak.esp

SkyUI.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Edited September 26, 2015 by Dragonborne654

[andr920]

Missing one is normal.

If you followed gromulos' guide then all you can do now is test mods 1 by 1 (or in batches) till you find the culprit.

[TheInvisibleGuardian]

Missing one is normal.

 

If you followed gromulos' guide then all you can do now is test mods 1 by 1 (or in batches) till you find the culprit.

 

Alright thanks I'll try that and maybe find some patches that I need or forgot to download.

[andr920]

Sry couldn't be more helpful but it's life.
I haven't learned to spot mod conflicts by looking at load orders yet that's lvl 10 wizardry I'm only lvl 7

 

Good luck and if you need anything.