frequent ctd when outside.

[hkrecon]

as the title suggests, whenever i am outside my game constantly crashes, many times when i try to enter a menu, or just standing at a certain spot.

 

here is my load order, please let me know if there is anything missing that can help fix this problem.

 

i am using skse 1.7.3, nmm 0.60.13, and i am using loot. please help, and thank you

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm

1 1 Update.esm

2 2 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

3 3 Dawnguard.esm

4 4 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

5 5 HearthFires.esm

6 6 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

7 7 Dragonborn.esm

8 8 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

9 9 ApachiiHair.esm

10 a RaceCompatibility.esm

11 b ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

12 c ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

13 d hdtHighHeel.esm

14 e JSwords.esm

15 f SGHairPackBase.esm

16 10 SkyMoMod.esm

17 11 notice board.esp

18 12 daymoyl.esm

19 13 LevelersTower.esm

20 14 HighResTexturePack01.esp

21 15 HighResTexturePack02.esp

22 16 HighResTexturePack03.esp

23 17 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

24 18 Cutting Room Floor.esp

25 19 Better Dynamic Snow.esp

26 1a AMatterOfTime.esp

27 1b SkyUI.esp

28 1c Dual Sheath Redux.esp

29 1d Moss Rocks.esp

30 1e WetandCold.esp

31 1f WetandCold - Ashes.esp

32 20 JSwords_Load_Screens.esp

33 21 RaceMenu.esp

34 22 RaceMenuPlugin.esp

35 23 UIExtensions.esp

36 24 AddItemMenu.esp

37 25 iHUD.esp

38 26 SkyrimConfigMenu.esp

39 27 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

40 28 ETaC - Complete.esp

41 29 ELFX - Exteriors.esp

42 2a SkyRe_Main.esp

43 2b BetterQuestObjectives.esp

44 2c ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp

45 2d Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp

46 2e Book Covers Skyrim.esp

47 2f Morrowloot.esp

48 30 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

49 31 Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

50 32 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

51 33 SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

52 34 ELFXEnhancer.esp

53 35 SoS - The Wilds.esp

54 36 OBIS.esp

55 37 SoS - Civilization.esp

56 38 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

57 39 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

58 3a AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

59 3b SoS - The Dungeons.esp

60 3c da2-parthalanstaff.esp

61 3d da2-vigilancegreatsword.esp

62 3e daowk-starfanggreatsword.esp

63 3f daowk-starfanglongsword.esp

64 40 DHuntress.esp

65 41 Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp

66 42 FlameAtronachArmor.esp

67 43 FullBootForKKSA.esp

68 44 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

69 45 Immersive Weapons.esp

70 46 kimono's witcher silver swords.esp

71 47 KKFur.esp

72 48 loners_sword.esp

73 49 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

74 4a Nouserhere Ears.esp

star wars ep1 armors.esp

starwarsarmors.esp

75 4b sword_of_aeons.esp

76 4c Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp

77 4d Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp

78 4e WWW.esp

79 4f KKSDrBWeightFix.esp

80 50 KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp

81 51 SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

82 52 Unique Uniques.esp

83 53 SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp

84 54 MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

85 55 Immersive Whiterun.esp

86 56 Immersive Solstheim.esp

87 57 WATER DG + DB.esp

88 58 Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp

89 59 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

90 5a OBISDB.esp

91 5b AchieveThat.esp

92 5c BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp

93 5d Differently Ebony.esp

94 5e HelmetToggle2.02b.esp

95 5f dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

96 60 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp

97 61 dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp

98 62 dD-Reduced Splatter Size.esp

99 63 dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp

100 64 TAR-ArchmageHoodRemoval.esp

101 65 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

102 66 spellsneak.esp

SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp

103 67 AzuraHouse.esp

104 68 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

105 69 SMIM-Merged-All.esp

106 6a JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

107 6b CerwidenCompanion.esp

108 6c Marriable Serana.esp

109 6d ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp

110 6e Ducks and Swans.esp

starwarsraces.esp

111 6f Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp

112 70 SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

113 71 SkyRe_Races.esp

114 72 SofiaFollower.esp

jediofskyrim.esp

115 73 SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

116 74 Immersive Citizens - CRF patch.esp

117 75 isilNarsil.esp

118 76 Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp

119 77 Portable Campsite.esp

120 78 Argonian Access.esp

121 79 portal2mod.esp

magicka sabers expanded.esp

122 7a SkyRe_Combat.esp

123 7b da2-murderknife.esp

124 7c darth vader in skyrim.esp

125 7d star wars speeder bike.esp

126 7e ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp

127 7f GDZZJJDH.esp

128 80 jack of blades armor.esp

129 81 mage hawke armor.esp

star killer armor.esp

130 82 TrissArmorRetextured.esp

131 83 WeaponsOf3E.esp

132 84 Dr_Bandolier.esp

133 85 BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp

134 86 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp

135 87 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

136 88 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp

137 89 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.esp

SoS - Civilization-PatchCoTWinterEdition.esp

SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSoundsWinterEdition.esp

SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp

138 8a SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp

139 8b Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

140 8c Real Clouds.esp

141 8d joomasslightning.esp

142 8e FNISspells.esp

143 8f The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

144 90 Dodge Mod.esp

145 91 Brows.esp

146 92 SGHairPackAIO.esp

147 93 The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp

148 94 SuccubusRaceLite.esp

149 95 sithrace.esp

star wars jedi races.esp

150 96 BetterQuestObjectives-UFOPatch.esp

151 97 Blaze Of Eventide.esp

152 98 Valerica.esp

153 99 NonEssentialChildren.esp

154 9a BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp

155 9b CharacterMakingExtender.esp

156 9c dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

157 9d Facelight.esp

158 9e Extended Slider Colors.esp

159 9f Spells Cast Light.esp

darth revan and star killer.esp

160 a0 mandalorianarmors.esp

star wars new era armors.esp

starwarsblasters.esp

161 a1 Immersive NPC in the dark.esp

162 a2 AwpSylvanas.esp

163 a3 da2-spiderfinesse.esp

164 a4 da2-vigilancelongsword.esp

165 a5 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

166 a6 Apocalypse - SkyRe Compatibility Patch.esp

167 a7 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp

168 a8 0SACT.esp

169 a9 Draconic Bloodline.esp

170 aa Nylea.esp

171 ab Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp

172 ac BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp

173 ad CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp

174 ae ScarletDawnArmor.esp

175 af TAR-GuildMaster1stPersonFix.esp

176 b0 XPMSE.esp

177 b1 SOSRaceMenu.esp

178 b2 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

179 b3 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp

180 b4 Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 1.esp

181 b5 ReProccer.esp

182 b6 Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

[SMB92]

Ive seen worse load orders but LOOT hasnt done you any favors.

 

Youve got your weather and lighting mods in the wrong place, they should all be grouped appropriately at the bottom or at least near there. Try moving ELFX exteriors down there. You also want its ETAC patch. The rest of your stuff seems like small mods but you are gonna find not many people willing to help you order it.

[num1sailingnut]

]I am having a similar problem. My game crashes in Dragonborn when I am outside moving. It seemed to always happen in the same location (basically distance traveled) I then noticed that Wrye Bash reported dirty edits in all of the DLC files and update.esm. I cleaned those and I got farther before the crash. Wrye Bash again and noticed UDTs in those same files so I cleaned those and still crashing at the same point.

 

Load order output from LOOT:

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
Moss Rocks.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills Dawnguard.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills Dragonborn.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp
armored-horses.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp
SkySight-Simply-Bigger-Trees-Slower-Branches.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp
Infinite Gold For Merchants.esp
SkyUI.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

[num1sailingnut]

So I did a little research and the mods that we have in common are:

 

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Moss Rocks.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

SMIM-Merged-All.esp

SkyUI.esp

In doing that research I noticed that I have these 3 mods loaded:

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills Dawnguard.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills Dragonborn.esp

I'm thinking based on the names that I only need the 1st one. Can anyone confirm?

Thanks!

[SMB92]

Yeah you only need one. Personally i disabled them all and just used the mesh from smim. I think it might even be in the smim esp, ill check.

 

Your load order is better and easier, lemme order it for you.

 

Skyui

Moss rocks

Armored horses

Smim

Sfo

Sfo dragonborn

Skysight (not sure your meant to use this with sfo)

Realistic lighting

Realistic water

Waves

RW dawnguard

Waves

RW dragonborn

Waves

Infinite gold

[num1sailingnut]

Yeah you only need one. Personally i disabled them all and just used the mesh from smim. I think it might even be in the smim esp, ill check.

 

Your load order is better and easier, lemme order it for you.

 

 

Thanks for ordering my mods!

 

Unfortunately even with them reordered I'm still getting the crash. :wallbash:

 

Any suggestions on other troubleshooting steps?

[SMB92]

Are you using an enb?

 

Also im pretty sure you dont clean Skyrims esms.

[SMB92]

You might also try resetting your inis. I mention enb because enboost stops you from crashing from running out of memory (as in Skyrim does.)

[num1sailingnut]

You might also try resetting your inis. I mention enb because enboost stops you from crashing from running out of memory (as in Skyrim does.)

I was running ENB but not anymore. I don't think I'm running out of memory because I have 16GB. (Not sure how much TES5 can address.)

 

I should also mention that this all started AFTER I upgraded to the latest NMM. I had to basically re-install all of my mods because of the new profile capability. My guess is that I did something wrong in the re-install process that is causing this.

[hkrecon]

i changed the load order around a bit, hasn't crashed outside like it did, but now i crash when i equip a modded weapon with a vanilla weapon. might be an issue with dual sheath redux or something else.

 

update: it seems to crash outside like it used to, but only when i'm around the etac market outside of whiterun. don't know wheter it's memory that i ruun out, or something else. if it helps, it ctds very fast.

 

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

SkyMoMod.esm=1

AOM.esm=1

daymoyl.esm=1

notice board.esp=1

LevelersTower.esm=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1

SGHairPackBase.esm=1

JSwords.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

Cutting Room Floor.esp=1

da2-vigilancegreatsword.esp=1

daowk-starfanggreatsword.esp=1

daowk-starfanglongsword.esp=1

star wars ep1 armors.esp=0

starwarsarmors.esp=0

sword_of_aeons.esp=1

star wars jedi races.esp=0

darth revan and star killer.esp=0

mandalorianarmors.esp=0

star wars new era armors.esp=0

SkyrimConfigMenu.esp=1

UIExtensions.esp=1

RaceMenu.esp=1

RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1

iHUD.esp=1

AddItemMenu.esp=1

ETaC - Complete.esp=1

SkyRe_Main.esp=1

ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp=1

Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1

Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1

Morrowloot.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp=1

SoS - The Wilds.esp=1

OBIS.esp=1

SoS - Civilization.esp=1

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1

SoS - The Dungeons.esp=1

da2-parthalanstaff.esp=1

Blaze Of Eventide.esp=1

SoS - Civilization-PatchCoTWinterEdition.esp=0

SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSoundsWinterEdition.esp=0

SoS - Civilization -PatchCoTSounds.esp=0

SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp=1

AOM.esp=1

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1

Dodge Mod.esp=1

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1

aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp=1

spellsneak.esp=1

MoonAndStar_MAS.esp=1

Immersive Whiterun.esp=1

Immersive Solstheim.esp=1

WATER DG + DB.esp=1

Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp=1

SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp=0

Immersive Weapons.esp=1

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1

AzuraHouse.esp=1

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp=1

Differently Ebony.esp=1

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1

SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1

SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMinorCities.esp=0

Atlas Legendary.esp=1

starwarsblasters.esp=0

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp=1

CerwidenCompanion.esp=1

starwarsraces.esp=0

Marriable Serana.esp=1

jack of blades armor.esp=1

sithrace.esp=0

Book Covers Skyrim - Lost Library.esp=1

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp=1

SofiaFollower.esp=1

SkyRe_Races.esp=1

jediofskyrim.esp=0

mage hawke armor.esp=1

star killer armor.esp=1

joomasslightning.esp=0

FNISspells.esp=1

Dr_Bandolier.esp=1

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp=1

Immersive Citizens - CRF patch.esp=1

isilNarsil.esp=1

Magic of the Magna-Ge.esp=1

Argonian Access.esp=1

portal2mod.esp=0

magicka sabers expanded.esp=0

vMYC_MeetYourCharacters.esp=1

SkyRe_Combat.esp=1

da2-murderknife.esp=1

darth vader in skyrim.esp=0

star wars speeder bike.esp=0

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1

Facelight.esp=1

Spells Cast Light.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

dD - Easy Lift Bodies and Objects.esp=1

AchieveThat.esp=1

ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp=1

da2-spiderfinesse.esp=1

da2-vigilancelongsword.esp=1

Brows.esp=1

Extended Slider Colors.esp=1

Nouserhere Ears.esp=0

The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp=1

NonEssentialChildren.esp=1

OBISDB.esp=1

AMatterOfTime.esp=1

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1

dD-DG-DB-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp=0

dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp=1

dD-Reduced Wound Size.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1

Immersive NPC in the dark.esp=1

Valerica.esp=1

CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp=1

GDZZJJDH.esp=1

Draconic Bloodline.esp=1

HelmetToggle2.02b.esp=1

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1

KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp=1

KKSDrBWeightFix.esp=1

DHuntress.esp=1

KKFur.esp=1

FullBootForKKSA.esp=1

FlameAtronachArmor.esp=1

ScarletDawnArmor.esp=1

Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp=1

Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp=1

TrissArmorRetextured.esp=1

TAR-GuildMaster1stPersonFix.esp=1

TAR-ArchmageHoodRemoval.esp=1

Unique Dragon Priest Masks.esp=1

Real Clouds.esp=1

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp=1

Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1

Moss Rocks.esp=1

Nylea.esp=1

dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp=1

AwpSylvanas.esp=1

SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp=1

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp=1

Apocalypse - SkyRe Compatibility Patch.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-2.esp=1

SGHairPackAIO.esp=1

Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp=1

loners_sword.esp=1

Unique Uniques.esp=1

WWW.esp=1

WeaponsOf3E.esp=1

kimono's witcher silver swords.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1

XPMSE.esp=1

SOSRaceMenu.esp=1

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1

ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1

ELFXEnhancer.esp=1

ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp=1

ELFX and Exteriors - ETaC Hotfix.esp=1

ELFX - ETaC Hotfix.esp=1

Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives-RequiemPatch.esp=0

BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives-UFOPatch.esp=1

JSwords_Load_Screens.esp=1

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1

BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp=1

Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 1.esp=1

ReProccer.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1

Requiem for the Indifferent.esp=0