Xbox 360, good or bad

[PaulEmil]

For the record. I do like 360s. I also like Wiis and PS3s. I'd own them all, if I had enough money to do so. However, <adopts strong Yorkshire accent> you just don't get Value For Money with consoles, <goes back to mild Yorkshire accent> and I feel that PCs give much better VFM.

[Switch]

Hmm yes I don't see any actual flaming here. It's not a forum offence to PM stuff as far as I know. You can't really police PMs. It'd only be if they tried to open another thread about it that they'd be in trouble. ;)

 

Back on-topic, I don't mind the 360 as much as I used to. They're starting to spread beyond the "FPS and mindless carnage or PC ports" kind of mentality that we saw with the Xbox line-up of games. Of course this means they're better competition for the other consoles, but in the end Microsoft is just something we have to put up with... they're not going to go away any time soon. At least if the 360 starts to have decent games it isn't so bad. Of course I'd still take the PS3 over the 360 any day, but it's starting to look like, as Peregrine says, the PS3 won't last much longer under Sony's bafflingly stupid administration. Hopefully that will change. I don't own any of the next-gen consoles yet... I'm biding my time and seeing what happens.

[maralbert]

I think the 360 is good. It has a large community and plenty of services and it shows that microsoft are also being intelligent and catering for the console market. The PC is best though.

 

Reson 1

 

XBOX live has 6 million users online

The PC has 8 million for World of Warcraft alone

 

Reason 2

 

If there is an upgrade you just buy that upgrade to make your PC better rather than wating for the next gen console.

 

Reason 3

 

Anything a console can do a PC can do much better ;)

 

So the 360 is stealing all the good games, at least they are selling good games for a reasonable price, the PS3 has games at around £50 - £70 a game, ontop of the neraly £500 console, broadband and server subscription (Should you choose ot have it)

[rpsnow]

I have a WII and it is fine machine which sells well, I also own a PS3 which is IMHO (looks aside) a damn fine piece of engineering.

 

My main gripe with the 360 is reliability, offficial stats put the failiure rate for 360's at 30-35%,

compared to the 1% for PS3's. The red ring of doom and disc chewing when they fail are well

documented. AFAIK MS owns both CNN & NBC which leads to some very biased views on the PS3.

Ironically many of the overheating and laser problems that plague 360's have been seen before,

where?, why on the original xbox of course!.

 

Sony may not be paragons of virtue, but compared to the spyware in windows and MS own anti-spy spyware they do not look so bad. Many of Windows so called helpful features are just snooping.!

 

MS likes to use low tatics on any competion, but it has been forced to realise (with release of the 360 elite) that the capacity of a DVD just does not cut it when compared the 30 gig BD rom the PS3 uses. HD graphics require bigger discs. (a moot point since a 360 just does not have the raw cpu power for 1080p games, adding HDMI to the 360 elite also being of debatable use)

 

PS3 has free online play, MS charge 70 US dollars for this. PS3 has a 9 core cpu compared to a 2 or 3

core cpu of the 360, though the PS3 is apparently trickier to develop for.

 

Sony are far from perfect, not paying royalties to the company who developed the dualshock technology led to legal action and Sony being too cheap to pay up just removed the function from

the PS3 controllers, rumor has it they are now going to pay up so it can be added again. This said

Sony did at least develop (or commission developement of) a unique and powerful custom CPU for their console and add some nice features.

 

On the other hand MS was a tad too clever when they added a venting hole to help solve a known 360 overheating problem (caused by poor component placement), what they failed to notice was that the hole is covered if you use the console in the vertical position. AFAIK the 360 still uses mostly off the shelf PC and nvidia chipset technology (which in itself is not exactly a bad thing, but hardly new)

 

The choice boils down to this: PS3 is technically better (somebody test ran a PS3 for 108 hours solid and it kept working) but needs time for developers get to grips with, but the 360 has the huge marketing machine of Bill behind it.

[rpsnow]

So the 360 is stealing all the good games, at least they are selling good games for a reasonable price, the PS3 has games at around £50 - £70 a game, ontop of the neraly £500 console, broadband and server subscription (Should you choose ot have it)

 

 

I buy PS3 games at a local branch of Gamestation in London and I have never seen them for 70 pounds,

I paid 420 pounds for my PS3 at gamestation (and sadly the price dropped just after I bought it (: ) and

the games are 50 pounds max. Besides if you already have broadband on you PC and a wireless router

(be sure to use WPA encryption though) you can just connect via that since PS3 has wireless built in.

Some newer games are hitting the 35 quid mark and of course online gaming (unlike the 360) is free

on PS3

 

 

Richard

[TheTerminator2004]

I don't mind the 360. I don't like it, but I don't mind it. It is better than the PS3, which will fail and, in doing so, bankrupt Sony (their games division is their main money-maker), but the way so many great games are being made Xbox exclusive is very irritating. And Microsoft bought Rare >:(

 

The Wii is probably the best console- its cheapest, most fun to play, has some really great games (such as Zelda), has free online connection, with a web browser, and it has the virtual console, which means it has better backwards compatibility than any other console, ever.

 

But I don't play consoles that much anymore, because the PC is just so much better. Sure, a good one may be more expensive, but it can do so much more- I can do homework, chat to friends, browse these forums, etc, as well as play games, which makes it worth the extra cost.

[DireStorms]

I have always been an Xbox gamer, even after I bought my computer. I was one of the first to buy an Xbox360, unfortunately I had to trade it in for a new one at Best Buy 12 times within a period of one year, yes, 12 times >:( . I took very good care of it yet everything you can Imagine went wrong until my thirteenth one that I have now. They started getting suspicious of why I had to bring it back so many times, I told them to take it up with the people that made it if they have a problem with it, its not like I enjoy taking it back and waiting in line over and over. It also destroyed my first copy of Oblivion, they didn't want to reimburse me, so I raised some hell and they finally did. My advice to anyone considering buying one, get the insurance or don't get it at all, or you will end up with a very pricey paperweight. As far as gameplay for the 360 goes, I enjoy Xbox360 games on my HDTV because the graphics are acceptional, but it could definitely be better. I have to agree with the fact that there is no console that exists today that can match PC gaming. Ultimately its up to the different gamers to decide for themselves.

[Arandie]

Personally, I loath both the X-box and the X-box 360...

[rpsnow]

Personally, I loath both the X-box and the X-box 360...

 

 

Arandie

 

Er, For all the reasons I listed above ? ;)

 

Rich

[Lord Barkmann]

Not a fan of XBOX or 360

More of a PS1,2 and 3 Fan

But above all.....PC....