Fallout vs. Witcher

[billyro]

 

That being said I think their only problem is not being able to optimize games properly....

 

Bethesda are the ones who can't optimise their games properly. The Witcher 3 looks far superior and runs far better than Fallout 4.

 

Granted, The Witcher 2 wasn't very optimised, but The Witcher 3 is superbly.

[1Al]

Fallout no ifs or buts, especially Fallout 3, absolute the best.

[aLxv1]

I finished both Fallout 4 (also played Fallout New Vegas for a long time) and Witcher 3 (Also finished Witcher 2), here are my thoughts comparing the two:

 

What I enjoy most in games like these, other than the main story, is exploring and the rewards for doing it. In both games each location is unique and may offer unique loot, all things considered I prefer Fallout in this aspect. In Witcher 3, when you get to Skellige, around 60% of points of interest are chests under water, and that killed it for me. Sure it looks beautiful sailing in your boat while watching the sun go down and all the pretty lens effects and water reflection but after 30 min it gets boring af. Also the loot you get is always crafting materials + some gear which you end up selling or dismantling for even more materials. In Fallout, unless you already crafted your own gear, you always have a chance of finding something better, and it's really enjoyable cruising around. Especially with True Storms mod, I could literally just stand there and enjoy the rain sound.

 

Other than that, the skill tree in Witcher and Fallout are similar enough since they're considered as perks in both games. You definitely feel the impact of leveling up much more in Fallout 4.

 

As for the graphics and landscapes, Witcher 3 I'd say is more pretty looking. Even though this goes down to personal preference I'm more of a baroque/medieval architecture type instead of modern buildings, which are pretty boring imo.

 

And finally, main story. Definitely Witcher 3. The characters are much more pronounced, the story becomes intriguing once you get into it, and well done cutscenes. Especially in the latest DLC, Hearts of Stone.

 

In the end it all goes down to preference. I enjoy both games very much, once I start getting bored running around in a game I dive into the other, although I feel like Witcher 3 has more content to offer.

[jhelzei]

A lot of people have brought up perfectly valid flaws in Fallout 4. Despite this, I still find Fallout 4 more immersive and engaging than the Witcher series. That's not to say that Bethesda can't learn a few (several?) things from CDPR. A few spring to mind:

 

1) Quest design. I can't count how many missions I've had to "go here, kill that." More interesting quests would be awesome, with better backgrounds.

 

2) Dialog system. The Mass Effect thing really has gone too far. Either Bethesda needs to implement it better, and make it clearer what the player is going to say, or (preferably) go back to the old way. Many of the dialog options provide an illusion of choice, and simply lead to the same end regardless of which option you choose. How about tying some dialog checks to a SPECIAL other than Charisma, or even some non-Charisma perks?

 

3) Deeper companions. While the companions are an improvement over previous games, they lack the depth found in other series, or even Fallout: New Vegas. And it's way too easy to hit maximum affinity.

 

Despite those beefs, I'm still enjoying the game immensely.

[ausgamer529]

Haven't played Witcher 3 yet so I cant really say what game is better

[DarthDeadMan]

 

I think their only problem is not being able to optimize games properly....

But you should also remember, that they actually work to optimize their games. I remember when TW1 came out - terrible load times, constant crashes and lag. After they patched it Enhanced Edition (and it was FREE update) - all this problems were fixed.

Same was with TW2. Initially I played it on low-medium settings, after all the patches I was able to play it on medium and some setting on high at solid 30 FPS (I've had a quite old PC at that time).

We'll see how things will go with TW3. I'm sure after they release 2nd DLC we'll get some more patches which (hopefully) will optimize the game.

 

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I've noticed, that most users usually can't tell the difference between high and ultra settings in most games. But if game doesn't provide solid 60FPS on ultra (but runs perfectly on high) they scream that it's not optimized at all.

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Now on the subject.

The Witcher 3 is a great game. Story, characters, locations, top-level graphics, quests, player choices and their consequences - this game have everything.

I can understand why some people don't get involved in the story - to fully enjoy this game, you MUST read 7 books and play Withcer 1&2. If you don't - you'll miss a LOT of fun. But it was expected, TW 1&2 had the same issue - you'll NEVER fully enjoy them, if you don't read the books they're based on. It never was a problem for me, I wasa huge fan of the Witcher books long before the first game came out.

 

Fallout was my favorite game series of all time... before it fell to Beth's hands. I'm really dissappointed in FO4 (even more than I was with FO3). I was expecting a proper RPG, I thought that they'll learn at least something from Obsidian (FNV was quite good). But no, they decided that FO should be a dumb action game with RPG elements, and not a proper RPG like it was in past. I'm sure that if they've not called it FO4, but something like Fallout: Shooter - there would be far less pissed off players.

 

 

In the end, The Witcher 3 is a far better game.

The only thing which FO4 does better - modding support.

[nonoodles]

to fully enjoy this game, you MUST read 7 books and play Withcer 1&2. If you don't - you'll miss a LOT of fun. But it was expected, TW 1&2 had the same issue - you'll NEVER fully enjoy them, if you don't read the books they're based on. It never was a problem for me, I wasa huge fan of the Witcher books long before the first game came out.

 

Hm that's a lot to expect. I understand the Witcher is adapted from a series of novels but I do hate having to scour tie-in material to get the full picture.

 

Modding is a big draw for these two mighty Bethesda franchises, ES and Fallout. FO4 has somehow managed to underwhelm me so much I'm not even looking forward to mods to improve the game.

 

Hopefully CDPR gives us a choice of character customisation, inc. gender, for their next big project.

[DarthDeadMan]

Hm that's a lot to expect. I understand the Witcher is adapted from a series of novels but I do hate having to scour tie-in material to get the full picture.

For me (and almost anyone who knew about a book series before the first game came out), games always were a tie-in material for the books :wink:

 

 

 

 

Hopefully CDPR gives us a choice of character customisation, inc. gender, for their next big project.

 

I'm looking forward for their Cyberpunk game. And I think they have no reason not to implement character customisation in it.

Edited January 19, 2016 by DarthDeadMan

[NoIdentification]

I've always preferred First-Person games, but I was briefly (very briefly) seduced by a cheap copy of Witcher 2 and the game's almost medieval setting into trying it. Not even contemplating Witcher 3.

No, I cannot deal with 3rd-person headache-inducing movement or views, nor do I like to mash combinations of buttons to activate a cinematic attack or defence system. I prefer to 'perform' my own movements to attack or defend...or even run away!

 

I've played Fallout 3 and NV although not to completion, and I really love Fallout 4's settlement building. It has brought in a relaxing Sims-style creative break between all the exploration and shooting. Yes, I hold up my hand, I play The Sims for building and torturing purposes, all right? Well, I am a laydee... :blush: . I also liked the Homestead building DLC in Skyrim too, but it wasn't as flexible as in Fallout 4.

There are the usual irritations, such as the awful muddled UI for m+kb on the PC, having to alter the .ini for FOV and mouse-smoothing etc, but it is another timesink of a game where I can explore (and loot) a huge landscape with plenty of gunplay thrown in. If only I could have a toggle zoom and not have it hardcoded to the ALT button (who on earth would choose that on a keyboard??) I would be happier, but I'm hoping that future mods will cure everything.

 

Witcher games are not a good comparison, IMHO, as it is a story-driven and movement restrictive game, unlike Fallout games (and others) where you can choose whether or not to do the quests or just bugger off to explore. Plus for die-hard FPS players like me, not a gameplay style that I can handle at all. I can't play console. It doesn't make sense to my brain, unlike the first-person view which is, obviously, a natural one as we all use it in real life. :cool:

[nonoodles]

I don't see how the Witcher and FO4 can't be compared when it's evident Beth's trying for a 'story-driven and movement restrictive game' too, for whatever reasons they think warrants such a shift, or more precisely, the losses the game has suffered due to this (executive?) decision. You can go almost anywhere in FO4 but is the journey ever truly worth it? I would rather a 'movement restricted' game that provides something amounting to a reason to be in any one place, rather than shooting the usual ho hum spawns/looting generic loot. If you are unenthusiastic about settlement building, the game quickly unravels and gives little reason to keep playing beyond sheer masochism. My pennyworth of advice to BGS would be - get new writers who are savvy with current trends of seen it-done it-read it all, get someone who likes to build a living breathing world rather than this childish incoherence shoved upon us. Not interested in doing so? Okay buh-bye.

 

It doesn't matter anyway. Comparisons aside, it's obvious that other devs are putting more TLC into their games. Maybe, ultimately, success will turn their heads too and everything they do is to milk the last dregs of cash out of whatever franchise they happen to own./shrug

 

edit: I wouldn't mind seeing a settlement building feature in ES6, haha! xD