Eyes? I see no eyes.

[schijnn]

For some reason, all the NPCs in my game have no eyes. If I get close enough, I can see right through their heads. It's a bit disturbing. Hopefully someone can help me figure this out, before my character decides they're soulless abominations and kills them all.

 

Load order:

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]
03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]
04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]
05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]
07  VASE - core.esm
08  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm
09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]
0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]
0B  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]
0C  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]
0D  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
0E  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.9.5]
0F  BreakUndies.esm
10  CURP_Controller.esm
11  NNWAEMaster.esm
12  UndiesUnderneath.esm
13  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.5]
14  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
15  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]
++  Shivering OOO.esp
16  Better Cities .esp  [Version 4.7.0]
17  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
18  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
19  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
1A  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
1B  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
1C  Fran Armor Add-on.esp
1D  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp
1E  LoadingScreens.esp
++  oc_darker_nights.esp
++  darker nights for shivering isles.esp
1F  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp
++  Symphony of Violence.esp
20  MIS.esp
21  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp
22  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
23  Storms & Sound.esp
24  WindowLightingSystem.esp
25  2680twohand.esp
26  AliveWaters.esp
27  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
28  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
29  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp
2A  Ayleid Loot EXtension - OOO Dungeons.esp
++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.78]
2B  personality_idles4.esp
2C  Living Economy.esp
2D  SI Living Economy.esp
2E  Living Economy - Items.esp
2F  Cutthroat Merchants.esp
30  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]
31  FormID Finder4.esp
32  Get Wet Dark.esp
33  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.8]
34  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]
35  Improved Hotkeys_Extended.esp  [Version 1.1]
36  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
37  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
38  DLCSpellTomes.esp
++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
39  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
3A  AHIRUs_Glasses_v1.esp
3B  Blackheart and Gizmodian ECRobes.esp
3C  BSK Break Undies.esp
3D  Dancing Shadow Rose Break Undies.esp
3E  DarkAdventuressBow.esp
3F  DHuntress.esp
40  Drake Knight Armor and Weapons v1.0.esp
41  Elfenwacht.esp  [Version 2.1]
42  Hentai Compilation.esp
43  Hiyoko_Store.esp
44  MHSN Weapons.esp
45  ROHJ2.esp  [Version 2.0]
46  Schwertleite Armor.esp
47  Slof's Male Clothing.esp
48  tda_Armoury.esp
49  tda_ScytheModv1.2.esp
4A  UU_Female_Undies.esp
4B  XiaNewAmuletsV1.esp
4C  Armamentium female.esp
4D  Daedric Lord Armor.esp
4E  SchwarzeKatzeArmor.esp
4F  R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esp
50  R18PN - FuruFuru Armor.esp
51  R18PN - Heilige Mutter Armor.esp
52  R18PN - Perona armor.esp
53  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]
++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
54  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
55  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
56  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
57  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp
++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
58  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]
59  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]
5A  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
5B  OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]
++  OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon.esp  [Version 0.5]
++  OOO_XiaNewAmulets Addon - LLOnly.esp  [Version 0.5]
5C  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]
5D  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]
5E  OMOBS Optional Combat Settings.esp  [Version 1.0]
++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]
5F  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]
60  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]
++  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
61  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
62  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]
63  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
64  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
65  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Pests.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
66  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
67  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
68  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
69  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]
++  VASE - Vanilla Cyrodiil.esp
++  VASE - Vanilla SI.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.40Alpha]
6A  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]
6B  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]
6C  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]
++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
6D  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
6E  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]
++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]
++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]
6F  Fransfemale.esp
70  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]
++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]
71  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp
72  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4MMM.esp
73  AdenseEpicDungeon.esp
74  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]
++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]
75  DBSRebuiltComplete.esp
76  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
++  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
77  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
78  KvatchCastleMakeover.esp
79  Nou-Malatu.esp
7A  NNWAEDungeons-Series2EV.esp
7B  Scribe Supplies.esp
7C  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.4]
7D  TheElderCouncil.esp
7E  TheElderCouncil_TempleOfTheOne.esp
7F  Tona's_ModsStore.esp
++  Tona's_ModsStore UU Patch.esp
80  1SB_VampireHaven.esp
81  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp
82  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
83  DLCfrostcrag.esp
84  Kvatch Rebuilt_Frostcrag Reborn.esp
85  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
86  Knights.esp
87  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]
88  EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
89  The Lost Spires.esp
8A  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
8B  MannimarcoComplete.esp
++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
8C  ElsweyrAnequina.esp
8D  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
8E  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp
8F  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
90  xulTheHeath.esp
91  XulEntiusGorge.esp
92  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
93  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp
94  Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp
95  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
96  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
97  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]
98  HentaiMania2.esp
++  HentaiMania2_Merged_Hell.esp
99  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]
9A  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
9B  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]
9C  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
9D  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
9E  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
9F  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
A0  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
A1  xulPantherRiver.esp
A2  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
A3  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]
A4  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]
A5  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]
A6  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
A7  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
A8  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
A9  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
AA  FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp
AB  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp
AC  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
AD  OOOCliffsofAnvilPatch.esp  [Version 1.0]
AE  MMMDungeons-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
AF  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]
++  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
B0  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
B1  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
B2  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 4.1.1]
B3  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
B4  Storms & Sound - The Lost Spires.esp
B5  Storms & Sound - Better Cities.esp
B6  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
B7  Alter Weight Spells.esp
B8  ConduitMagic.esp
B9  SpellSinger.esp
BA  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
BB  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_DLCSpellTome.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]
BC  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.90]
BD  Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp
BE  actors_in_charge.esp
BF  Woman's Move.esp
C0  SP1stPLegs.esp
**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp
**  Let There Be Darkness - Knights.esp
**  Let There Be Darkness - Mehrunes Razor.esp
**  Let There Be Darkness - OOO.esp
**  Let There Be Darkness - Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
**  Let There Be Darkness - The Elder Council.esp
**  Let There Be Darkness - Lost Spires.esp
**  Let There Be Darkness - Elsweyr.esp
**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Colovian Highlands.esp
**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Lost Coast.esp
**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Brena.esp
**  Let There Be Darkness - UL Blackwood Forest.esp
++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.78]
++  Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag Reborn.esp  [Version 0.78]
++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk.esp  [Version 0.78]
C1  _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
C2  CSC.esp
C3  ElaborateEyes-RensBeautyPackHairsOnly.esp
C4  Capucines Character Expansion.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
C5  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
C6  x117race.esp
C7  Lop-ears Elf.esp
C8  IDKRRR_KFME4rev.esp
C9  DKImperials.esp
++  EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
++  EyelashesVannilaRaces.esp
++  WhiskersAll.esp
++  MergedMouth.esp
++  JoinedJaws.esp
CA  Seirei_No_Hitokiri.esp
CB  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.9.5]
CC  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp  [Version 4.7.0]
CD  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.9.5]
CE  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.9.5]
CF  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp  [Version 4.9.1]
D0  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]
D1  TheOubliette.esp
++  LightSpellTorch.esp
D2  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]
D3  HM2SummonCompatible.esp
D4  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
D5  Sexy Daedric Priestess.esp
D6  HepsCloth5.esp
D7  MageCloth.esp
D8  Magician_Girls.esp
D9  momomoeqip.esp
DA  Daedric Lord-Classic Bound Armor.esp
DB  Gizmodian - Shards of Light.esp
DC  Elvenguard.esp  [Version 2.1]
DD  Gondorian Ranger Gear.esp
DE  Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp
DF  HGEC Kajiits.esp
E0  NonyxiaCheetahRace.esp
E1  Shrridan.esp

 

[Hickory]

Beautiful People and Elaborate Eyes are your problem. Run BOSS (update masterlist) and rebuild your Bashed Patch according to this:

 

When you press 'Rebuild Patch', make sure that you check the following:

 

Merge Patches

Import ... [Go through each 'import' option and if there's a mod, not csv in the right window, check it, and the Import... option.]

Cobl Catalogs [ONLY if you use Cobl]

Contents Checker

Leveled Lists

Race Records

SEWorld Tests [ONLY if you have Shivering Isles installed]

 

The Globals and Tweaks are optional, but should not be checked unless you know what you are doing, and should be left alone while you are troubleshooting. Everything else should be left unchecked UNLESS you know that you need it.

 

 

 

 

 

Wrye Bash will attempt to correct any googly eyes.

[schijnn]

Thanks for the quick reply, but I already have everything checked that you recommended (except for the SEWorld Tests, for some reason). Could having custom races loading after the Bashed Patch cause this? I'm not sure it's the best place for them, but it's where BOSS keeps putting them.

(Also, just to clarify, it's not a 'googly-eye' problem, it's a 'no-eye' problem. I can look straight through an NPC's eyesockets to the hair on the back of his/her head.)

[bben46]

Googly eyes, black eyes as well as no eyes all relate back to the same basic thing. More than one mod wants to say what the eyes look like and there is a serious conflict.

 

This can be caused by any combination of mods that affect eyes. most cosmetic mods and many custom race mods plus at least one hair mod change the eyes. Beautiful people was one of the earlier cosmetic mods and is the most likely candidate for a conflict. Elaborate eyes uses a different technique to mod the eyes, so instead of the last one overwriting, they each try to force the eye appearance in a different way.

[Hickory]

Could having custom races loading after the Bashed Patch cause this?

Yes, especially races that rely on mods that change vanilla eyes like BP and EE.

 

I'm not sure it's the best place for them, but it's where BOSS keeps putting them.

That is because either (a) your masterlist is out of date, or (b) the mods have not been submitted to be included in the masterlist. Make sure you update your masterlist when you run BOSS.

 

Situations like this is where your userlist.txt comes in. It is there for you to add mods not in the list, or override mods that don't conform with your particular load list. For instance, let's take the mods in your list that come after the Bashed Patch. You could add them to your userlist.txt like so:

 

 

 

ADD: Sexy Daedric Priestess.esp

TOP: Items S

 

ADD: HepsCloth5.esp

TOP: Items H

 

ADD: MageCloth.esp

TOP: Items M

 

ADD: Magician_Girls.esp

TOP: ITEMS M

 

ADD: momomoeqip.esp

TOP: ITEMS M

 

ADD: Daedric Lord-Classic Bound Armor.esp

TOP: ITEMS D

 

ADD: Gizmodian - Shards of Light.esp

TOP: ITEMS G

 

ADD: Elvenguard.esp

TOP: ITEMS E

 

ADD: Gondorian Ranger Gear.esp

TOP: ITEMS G

 

ADD: Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp

AFTER: Lop-ears Elf.esp

APPEND: % {{BASH:NpcFaces, Hair, Eyes, R.Ears, R.Relations}}

 

ADD: HGEC Kajiits.esp

TOP: ITEMS K

 

ADD: NonyxiaCheetahRace.esp

AFTER: Nephilim.esp

 

ADD: Shrridan.esp

AFTER: Salutrian Elves.esp

 

 

[schijnn]

Situations like this is where your userlist.txt comes in.

 

I didn't even know about userlist.txt. That, plus removing Elaborate Eyes, did the trick. Thank you!

[Hickory]

Situations like this is where your userlist.txt comes in.

 

I didn't even know about userlist.txt. That, plus removing Elaborate Eyes, did the trick. Thank you!

 

You're welcome.