iHateSkirim Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Hello!I was a hardcore Player in Oblivion, doing Characters with always +5/+5/+5 Level ups, but now to start my lvl-1 Account I cannot get Sneak Exp. I sneaked around many times, friendly NPC, enemies, but I only got 4/100 sneak to the next level so far. Someone told me to make a guy in Balmora attacking you and then standing on a plant so he can't reach you, sneaking for experience. But well, is this a real trick to grind towards 100 ? I did not gain any exp ... isnt that clear because I am in combat and then I am not covered anyways ? I just know this from Oblivion. If you could be so nice, then you could answer another questions for me:1. I really dont often get hits with my bow, is this fixed by getting more Dexterity ?And if I need more Dexterity, how do I then need Strength to make more damage with a Bow ?Let's say I am Dexterity 100, Marksman 100, how much damage would a bow now do if I have- Strength 10- Strength 100no real numbers, just a guess. 2. If I want to do the unlimited arrows trick, I cannot get it. It says, go back to inventory to check, if you still have the sword equipped (not the bow, which I'm actually wielding), but I always have in the inventory the bow again in my hand, therefore the glitch doesn't work :((If you even know what I mean). Any ideas ? I have Morrowind GOTY and play on MGSO 3.0. Is it patched ? 3. There are 5 main skills, 5 lesser skills and the other skills (dont know if correct names, have the German Game)Is there any difference between Main and lesser Skills ? As far as I can see, those 10 are totally equal ... just like the 10 main skills in Oblivion ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seany65 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 @ihateskyrim, The 'Main' skills are different to the 'Lesser' skills in that the main skills start at a skill level of 30, and the lesser skills start at 15. However, this skill level is added to your characters skill level at a particular thing. So if your Redguard character has a natural skill of 15 at Longsword and you choose that as a main skill your character actually starts the game with a skill level of 45. The 'Specialization' feature adds 5 to any skill in that specialization even if your character doesn't use it as a main or lesser skill, so if you then take 'Combat' as the specialization for your redguard warrior their total starting skill level for the Longsword will be 15 (Race skill bonus) + 30 (Main skill bonus) + 5 (Specialization skill bonus) = a starting skill of 50 in Longsword. The Main skills will also 'Level up' quicker than the Lesser skills as your character is considered more able to learn them. Both count towards Leveling up. The 'Miscallaneous' skills don't count towards Leveling up, althought they can be useful. I've never heard of the 'guy in balmora' trick. Doesn't really make sense to me. The best way to gain Sneak levels is either to pay for sneak lessons or to sneak everywhere. Best results are if you sneak up behind animals with no other animals able to see you. The 'Sneak' symbol' will show up at the bottom of the screen. Your low hit rate with your bow will be down to two things : a fairly low Agility level and a low Marksman skill level. One trick to hit cliffracers is to wait until they are overhead and fire at their heads. Sneak up close to rats, and while still in sneak mode shoot an arrow at them, same with mudcrabs. If you want to increase your armour skill, sneak up to a rat or mudcrab, making sure that it says Rat or Mudcrab and not Diseased Rat or mudcrab, then let it hit you a few times making sure your health doesn't go too low, then kill it. Same with the block skill, let it hit you while holding a shield. You may not know this, but there is no way to actively Block anything (as there is in Oblivion), you have to get a high skill in it and it's done automatically. If you go back to Seyda Neen, and go back to the door you came out of when you met Fargoth, look down on the ground, if you see a hatchway then go down there and look in the chest. You'll see quite a few theings weith a high value that yuo can sell. After closing the chets look up and you'll see a woman whom you will be able to sell all the stuff to, She has a huge amount of money and doesn't seem to run out. So sell 2 of the Ebony short sowrds (or all 3 if you don't use shorts swrds) and so on, and then use the money to buy lessons in stuff that helps you improve your chatracter's Strength, Agility, Willpower, Endurance etc. When training like this, you can take ten lessons in your main and lesser skills which will then Level you up, this then allows you to increase 3 Attributes (Strength, Agility etc.), which can then alloow you to train in other skills which have been limited by you characters starting level in that Attribute. EG. I wanted to increase my Block skill, but I couldn't as it's level was limited by my Agility Level(both were at about 40), so I 5 lessons in Sneak, which (when I lelveled up) allowed me to raise my Agility Level by a few points, and that allowed me to take a few lessons in Block well as Sneak, this allowed me to raise my Agility Level higher and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seany65 Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 @ihate skyrim, Some useful lessons can be bought in Pelagiad, and more in Balmora and Caldera. I recommend that you join all the guilds that you can as this gives you access to a lot more lessons than you could otherwise get, or at least makes them easier to find. Bamlora fighetr's guild do Longsword, heavy armour, block, medium armour etc. the Mages guild gives lessons in magic, (water breathing and water walking as well as Heal spells can be useful). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seany65 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 @ihateskyrim, I forgot to mention that lodging in an upstairs room in (I think) Caldera's Inn (I forget the name of it), is a Kaajit which teaches lessons which are useful for increasing agility when levelling up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parrotpie Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 If you really want to grind sneak, and it not at all effective until about 90, the go back into the room where Sellous Gravious (the chargen guy) is. Stand in a corner by the door and wait until he and the guard are not looking at you then hold down the sneak key with a weight and go do something more interesting. After about 8 hours your sneak should be about 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seany65 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 @parrotpie, I've never heard of that trick. I'd just suggest holding the 'Sneak' key down when going around in caves and ruins and what not. Although it can get a bit hairy when a baddie is charging at you and you're trying to switch to 'Run', but at least this way yuo can improve other skills at the same time, such as Sneak to a good position and shoot 'em in the head with an arrow, then switch weapons and switch to Run if they don't die straightaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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