"Missing Master Check Mod Load Order" I Call BS!

[ZoakoTHEgreat]

UPDATE: I tried again uninstalling all my mods and reinstalling them more slowly and this has worked to restore the Sink. Oddly I have reinstalled just about everything including the awesome sink and the problem has not recurred. I am bewildered that I have gotten no clue whatsoever as to what tripped this up in the first place. I would really like to know but I might never know what caused this. (My closest guess though is some oddity involving merged patches)

 

Maybe I can even get one louse reply (that isnt someone telling me to shut up because I'm spaming) that might shed some light on this mystery. I am stubborn, obsessive, and this has gone beyond merely wanting to get my game working fully. (I could play through OWB without the Sink and its store as co

 

Problem (As stated in the three previous posts):

• Auto crash on entering the Sink with "Missing Master Check Mod Load Order" popup.
• No mods that edit the main appearance of the Sink other than the Awesomized Sink
• Wtih or without the Sink mod the game crashes with the same exact message EVEN ON BRAND NEW CHARACTER SAVES
• I Have New Vegas Interiors. Game crashes with the same message with or without that mod also on brand new saves
• Old saves that worked fine with the Awesome Sink also crash.
• LOOT, FOMM and FNVEdit detect NO MISSING MASTERS and no texture or model conflicts for the Sink
• The only dirty plugin that isnt DLC is Vurt's Wasteland Flora Overhaul, and none of those can be cleaned.

Edited January 20, 2016 by ZoakoTHEgreat

[DoctorKaizeld]

okay so you keep posting this thread (sorta more of a revision of the same issue) over and over again and havent received any help. so as someone who understands that issue i am going to help, but first im going to need to ask if at this point you would be okay with restarting as that is the quickest (kind of) way of doing this.

 

all you have to do is uninstall all of your mods and the game then delete the Steam folder for NV.

 

 

another choice would be after uninstalling the SINK mod would be to run this: http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/49396/?

 

 

also maybe providing your load order would be helpful as i dont want to go find your old posts.

[ZoakoTHEgreat]

My persistence is rewarded rather than chastised, yay! :D

I will try the save cleaner when I get the opportunity.

What exactly do you mean by the Steam folder?

 

My load order is:

FalloutNV.esm

DeadMoney.esm

HonestHearts.esm

OldWorldBlues.esm

LonesomeRoad.esm

GunRunnersArsenal.esm

ClassicPack.esm

MercenaryPack.esm

TribalPack.esm

CaravanPack.esm

YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm

BookDiversityProject.esm

Active Wasteland.esm

SomeguySeries.esm

Project Nevada - Core.esm

Project Nevada - Equipment.esm

ProjectBrazil.esm

FCOMaster.esm

CFWNV.esm

The New Bison Steve Hotel.esm

More Traits.esm

More Perks.esm

More Perks for Dead Money.esm

More Perks for Old World Blues.esm

NevadaSkies.esm

SRDG.esm

Tuneable Radios.esm

NVInteriors_Core.esm

NVInteriors_ComboEdition.esm <Note that this was added as a test as many posts about NVInteriors mentioned it being necessary if you had the DLC

Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp

Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp

YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp

A Better Veronica.esp

ShilohDS-Color Maps and Icons.esp

Couriers Stash - Package Selection Menu.esp

EVE FNV - ALL DLC.esp

Improved Throwing1.esp

More Perks for Old World Blues Update.esp

The Mod Configuration Menu.esp

Faster Terminals.esp

Active Wasteland - Dead Money Goggle Tints.esp

Charismatic Pimp-Boy.esp

Better Game Performance.esp

Vurt's WFO.esp

Project Nevada - EVE All DLC.esp

FeelingIrradiated.esp

FCO - GlowingOne.esp

More Perks for Dead Money Update.esp

Centered 3rd Person Camera - Unraised.esp

cfw-perkoutofthisworld.esp

Light Step ED-E.esp

Active Wasteland - Vanilla Replacements.esp

outsidebets.esp

50sFFFLVJOD-Freeside.esp

Lucky38Suite_Reloaded.esp

More Perks Update.esp

MiscItemIconsNV.esp

PCB Hotkey.esp

Project Brazil NV Courier Stash Control.esp

Project Brazil NV DLC Control.esp

R.A.C.E. Station.esp

Tag Skills Improved.esp

The Weapon Mod Menu.esp

NewVegasBounties.esp

NewVegasBountiesII.esp

Upper Class Outfit (Tenpenny's Suit).esp

WeaponModsExpanded.esp

Active Wasteland - Dead Money Replacements.esp

CNR_Beta.esp

TheInheritance.esp

Active Wasteland - Coffee Maker.esp

Lucky 38 intro poster.esp

ThrowableRepconnRockets.esp

1nivVSLArmors.esp

1nivPNSLPatch.esp

Russell.esp

More populated cities.esp

CFW-PN-DLC.esp

CFW-PN.esp

NCR Rearmament v1.5 (Lore).esp

THOR.esp

More Traits Update.esp

Motorcyclereplacer.esp

Lucky38MarkerV3.esp

rotfacetoriches.esp

Brotherhood and House Alliance.esp

Murdelizer.esp

Nuka Cola Enhanced.esp

EmptyBottles.esp

DrugsAreBadMKay.esp

Real World Drinks.esp

HHH-MojaveEdition.esp

Firefly_guns.esp

athornysituation.esp

awilderwasteland.esp

NukaCola-Ojo.esp

SolarScorcherNV.esp

WelcomeToNewVegas.esp

Clanf_CryoWeapons.esp

Transportalponder Enhanced.esp

WMX-GunRunnersArsenal.esp

WMX-OldWorldBlues.esp

Crashed Vertibird Interior.esp

Stealth suit Mk II helmet.esp

WMX-DeadMoney.esp

WMX-POPMerged.esp

Active Wasteland - Dead Money Coffee Maker.esp

WMX-LonesomeRoad.esp

WMX-HonestHearts.esp

WMX-EVE-AllDLC.esp

TheSinkRemodel.esp

CFW-DLC.esp

Roberts_NewVegas.esp

Better Burned Man.esp

FCO - Roberts Patch.esp

Project Brazil Project Nevada Patch.esp

NevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.esp

The Merge.esp

Total active plugins: 118

Total plugins: 118

Edited January 14, 2016 by ZoakoTHEgreat

[ZoakoTHEgreat]

I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I explicitly followed the instructions for the Save Cleaner and I could not get the file to come up to be saved.

 

At the step of entering the command the game minimizes bringing up the references in notepad and supposedly saving them as a .fos in the save directory

Turning on the the application and clinking to select the save there is a mysave.fos in the same save folder as indicated by the notepad save but it is not marked as a text file with the lined paper icon but rather only the normal blank white of a game save. Note pad says the text version of the .fos is in the New Vegas saves, trying to load it in the reference wiper, shows it not there.

 

• Trying the .fos with the same name but without the text icon lists 0 references cleaned press any button to close/

[DoctorKaizeld]

 

What exactly do you mean by the Steam folder?

Steam folder = C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Fallout New Vegas

 

sorry should have specified that.

 

 

I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I explicitly followed the instructions for the Save Cleaner and I could not get the file to come up to be saved.

 

At the step of entering the command the game minimizes bringing up the references in notepad and supposedly saving them as a .fos in the save directory

Turning on the the application and clinking to select the save there is a mysave.fos in the same save folder as indicated by the notepad save but it is not marked as a text file with the lined paper icon but rather only the normal blank white of a game save. Note pad says the text version of the .fos is in the New Vegas saves, trying to load it in the reference wiper, shows it not there.

 

• Trying the .fos with the same name but without the text icon lists 0 references cleaned press any button to close/

hmmm... i dont know much about the save cleaners as i have never actually used them myself (never needed to) usually it helps people and they're all good.

 

 

 

TheSinkRemodel.esp

which mod is this?

 

 

to be honest i wish i had some better solutions. the only reason i didnt answer before was primarily because i never used any mods that altered the SINK in any way. either way im gonna keep trying.

[ZoakoTHEgreat]

I turned off all my mods and the sink actually loaded normally.

I slowly reinstated mods and every step of the way the crashes restarted weather I was modding the Sink or not

(The Mod for the sink is Elianora's Awesomised Sink http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/56162/?

and it crashed the game saying missing master even when it was the only active mod)

 

This underscores why I'm so obsessed with this: I don't see how it is possible for a group of files to crash a location

that none of them has absolutely anything whatsoever to do with but leave all other locations in the game unglitched.

 

Did you just mean to say that I should reinstall new vegas together when you said to delete the New Vegas common folder because that is deleting the whole game right?

Edited January 15, 2016 by ZoakoTHEgreat

[Unno]

You only need one of these:

- CFW-PN-DLC.esp (use if you have Dead Money, which you do)

- CFW-PN.esp (use if you do not have Dead Money)

Move 'CFW-DLC.esp' above 'CFW-PN-DLC.esp'. I doubt this will fix the issue at hand, but it's a step in the right direction.

[DoctorKaizeld]

 

Did you just mean to say that I should reinstall new vegas together when you said to delete the New Vegas common folder because that is deleting the whole game right?

yes but only if all else fails.

 

though try the above solution it might work.

[ZoakoTHEgreat]

Unfortunately, though my hopes weren't high, removing the redundant plugin did not make any change.

 

I thought that perhaps the problem was caused by the new version of the Awesomised Sink so I tried the old file for it. Not only did it not work, but it produced a crash unique from any of the others with a large popup from windows (some crashes naturally had the Fallout has stopped working prompt, but this was the first message relating to the nature of the crash, that was generated by windows rather than by the game. It said something along the lines of a problem with C++ visuals and windows terminating an unusual operation.

 

I then made an attempt without the Awesomised Sink . It went to blackscreen after activating the cell door, but unusually it did not/would not crash at all, I had to terminate with task manager.

[ZoakoTHEgreat]

I decided to check in on the Sink the best way I could so I downloaded the GECK for the first time and attached is the image of what I found there.

 

Almost all of the objects and world space of the sink are somehow deleted from the functional space (even though their editor ids appear properly in the cell view data window); and all of this in the sink world space loaded from the Old World Blues master file. As for the Awesome sink mod examining it in the GECK reveals the same exact blown out model with all the items and world space that it ought to have missing from the display window but listed in the cell data window just as with the base game.

 

To bring up a detail from earlier a weird thing about all these attempts to enter the sink is that the sink appears rendered normally on the image on the autosave even though the sink never properly appeared on screen in 99.99999....% of those attempts.

 

I still have held off on the totally reinstalling New Vegas (which would require me to reinstall NMM, FOMM, FNVEdit, LOOT, GECK, OJO BUENO Textures, 4GBFNV, etc) because of the sheer oddity of the fact that the Sink will load properly if I turn off all major non-texture mods, yet somehow my whole band of mods continues to crash it even without a single one among the large and script heavy mods that edit the files for the sink (Other than leveled lists for vendors/crafting/autodoc which could be fingered out as a possible culprit; if they did anything like this elsewhere in the game which they do not).