crashing due to load order or ini?

[Murielkai]

Hey, its been a while since I modded Skyrim and I lost my old workshop with my install notes and had to download everything again. I had the exact list of mods I was running in my old game and this build has always run well in the past but now (on the new Windows 10 PC), I am having some crashing. I don't think it has anything to do with Windows 10, honestly. I updated a few mods but stayed with some of the older versions in certain situations. When I used LOOT to sort this order there were to many errors for me to fix. When I had the build working before I was using BOSS so I downloaded BOSS and ran it. After running BOSS and changing a couple of unrecognized esp's around the game was running much better but it was still crashing (about half way to riverwood when leaving the opening dungeon).

Like I said, I lost my notes so I am unsure if I am missing something large like making a "merged patch" or using some "level lists merge" mod... Right now I am just running a Bashed Patch and have DynDOLODs turned off currently while I trouble shoot these other issues. I have not made any .ini tweaks yet (haven't found a good guide yet).

 

I do not use the "main" section of Skyrim Redone but I use everything else (except for Survivalism). Any insight into this would be appreciated, thank you.

Here is the load order sorted by BOSS:

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
ApachiiHairMales.esm=1
OblivionHairPackAIO.esm=1
Obl-VB hair.esm=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm=1
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1
SGHairPackBase.esm=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=1
HighResTexturePack02.esp=1
HighResTexturePack03.esp=1
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp=1
Vivid Landscapes.esp=1
SMIM-Merged-All.esp=1
Better Dynamic Snow.esp=1
BrighterTorchesBiggerMagelight.esp=1
ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp=1
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1
bards sing everywhere v0.1.esp=1
CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp=0
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-3.esp=1
MomoDash.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp=1
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp=1
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1
DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
Customizable Camera.esp=1
Angelic_Demonic.esp=1
Animated Dragon Wings.esp=1
Darklilith.esp=1
DwemerAutoBlade.esp=1
FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1
Immersive Weapons.esp=1
LadyKdCirclets.esp=1
LustmordVampireArmor.esp=1
Magicka Sabers.esp=1
Neo's Devilmaid2.esp=1
Neo's Selene.esp=1
Nouserhere Ears.esp=1
NS_Eilhart_Dress.esp=1
SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp=1
SuccubusCBBE3GiftByNausicaa.esp=1
TERAArmors_CBBE.esp=1
ThunderBirdArmor.esp=1
Tribunal Maskes by Zairaam.esp=1
Tribunal Robes by Zairaam.esp=1
VampireLeatherArmorSet.esp=1
WWW.esp=1
Yukikaze.esp=1
DeadlyDragons.esp=1
SkyRe_Combat.esp=1
SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp=1
SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp=1
SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp=1
SkyRe_StandingStones.esp=1
Beautiful Whiterun.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home.esp=1
Nightingale Hall.esp=1
RealisticWhiterun.esp=1
Run For Your Lives.esp=1
When Vampires Attack.esp=1
The Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp=1
AchieveThat.esp=1
Babette.esp=1
HelmetToggle2.02b.esp=1
Helmless_Warrior.esp=1
Serana No Hood.esp=1
SFO - Dragonborn.esp=1
Convenient Horses.esp=1
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp=1
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1
Drinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp=1
BFT Ships and Carriages.esp=1
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1
ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1
ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp=1
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp=1
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp=1
ELFXEnhancer.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
RND_DrinkingFountains-Patch.esp=1
RND_USKP-Patch.esp=1
RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1
Better Vampires.esp=1
Predator Vision.esp=1
WerewolfMastery.esp=1
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1
Apocalypse - Dragonborn Staff Crafting.esp=1
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp=1
fairy.esp=1
numenume Hair.esp=1
SGHairPackAIO.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp=1
SuccubusRaceLite.esp=1
TemptressVixen.esp=1
Brynjolf & Vex Followers.esp=1
AuroraFollower.esp=1
GMO-HirelingsHousecarlsandMaidensHF.esp=1
GMO-HirelingsHousecarlsMaidensandGentlemen.esp=1
GMO-GuildMembersOverhaul.esp=1
Marriable Serana.esp=1
Marriable Serana HF.esp=1
Pixie Follower.esp=1
Etna Follower.esp=1
Poet.esp=1
Sara.esp=1
BVFE_Serana.esp=1
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
PCEA DG n DB DLC for SkyRe_Races.esp=1
SkyRe_Races.esp=1
WATER Plants.esp=1
WATER DG + DB.esp=1
WATER-RND Legendary Patch.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
DynDOLOD.esp=0

[Thallassa]

Don't use BOSS. It is more than 2 years out of date now.

 

Are you using SKSE memory patch and ENBoost? If not, you should be. That will likely fix your crashing. I recommend going through a good guide again just to check off that you've done everything you need to. I like this one.

[Drakemasta]

loot ftw

[Murielkai]

Well I am not using an enb this build because I wasn't sure about the new version (5.0) of Climates of Tamriel working with Project ENB. I figured I could do a lot with the 15 fps that the ENB costs me.

 

So I am not using ENBoost, though I did read about it having a FPS limiter that can help prevent the "physics" bug where carts start flipping over at the start of the game. That is currently what I am trying to overcome. When I used ENBoost (without an ENB preset) just for the FPS limiter it caused screen tearing so I removed it.

 

I am unsure what SKSE memory patch is, I will google it. I never used SKSE memory patch or ENBoost before and it worked fine, just for the record.

 

Now as for LOOT... I have used LOOT and BOSS both and LOOT made a huge mess out of my load order. The game wouldn't even load for me to trouble shot. BOSS organizes nearly every mod in my build just fine and recognizes a lot of little issues with toughies like SkyRe. Like for example, when FNIS is after either PCEA or SkyRe_Races.esp it causes the physics bug during the game intro and the carts start flipping. There are several instances where LOOT completely fails and unfortunately I don't know where those "instances" are so that leaves me with having to go back and install each mod, one at a time, and play test extensively. That in turn renders LOOT nearly useless, in my opinion.

 

It does indeed seem to be an issue with the physics but I have no clue what could be causing it. I have v-sync forced in the nvidia settings currently. I have not touched the ini... and I recall doing some fairly extensive ini tweaking in the past. My first worry was that I didn't set the ini up correctly.

 

I will check out SKSE memory patch, I thought it was something SKSE did automatically.

Edited January 20, 2016 by Murielkai