Santheocles Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Hi new to fallout 4 recently bought it played it and thoroughly enjoyed it. i heard that for the pc there was mods so i came across nexus modsi followed Gophers tutorial of installation etc etc edited what he told me to and so on.i installed around 8 mods all from most endorsed first 2 pages ( obviously they work as people are endorsing others to use them)heres the listEnhanced Blood Textures Settlement Supplies Expanded 2.5 - Safe SSExCraftable AmmoWorking Food PlantersEasy HackingHomemaker - Expanded SettlementsCarry Weight ModificationsCustomize Legendary Enemy Spawning these are all the mods once installed them ticked them etc VIA NMMtried to launch game made it to the please stand by screen -------> https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi6rPmM28TJAhXMvRoKHbWGAAYQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pcgamesn.com%2Ffallout-4%2Fplease-stand-by-bethesda-suggest-fallout-4-news-is-imminent&psig=AFQjCNFMDaD8J6vaUqAWnGzOTc14dH0gSg&ust=1449404616815796then it crashes to desktop within 3-5seconds please someone help me :/my pc specs GPUgeforce gtx titan zgeforce gtx titan z intel core i7-5930k @ 4.4ghz OC to 5.1ghz resolutionn 2560 x 1440 asus rogswift 32gb ram 1tb SSD 4TB HDD I am now facing the exact same problem. Had a bunch of mods installed, manually, game was running fine. Decided to switch to NMM because my list was getting quite long and manual management was getting troublesome, did a clean install of the game, and reinstalled all my mods (the same ones as before) with NMM. Now everytime I get to the stand by screen before the main menu it crashes. The moment I activate even a single plugin the game stops functioning. Steps taken to correct this problem:Clean game install: 3 timesVerify integrity: 20+ timesClean NMM install: 5+ times(Clean install means also manually deleting the fallout 4 remaining files, fallout 4 my document files and fallout 4 appdata files, and playing the vanilla game for a bit to get the new files sorted and created) Installing mods 1 at a time, and booting the game after every install: 3 timesHere's the funny thing, the crash starts happening with random mods, a mod that worked fine (was even playing with it and using it ingame), the first and second time, proved to be causing the crash on the third try.The above leads me to believe that either it is completely random, which is messed up for troubleshooting, or I'm missing some major elephant in the room. If anyone has any idea how to fix this, it would be most welcome, or i would be forced to switch back to my manual installation until this problem is proven to be solved. Side Info:- NMM, Steam and Fallout 4 all installed on the same drive- NMM run as Administrator- F4se installed, tried with both the 1.3 version for non-beta and 1.5 version for beta System Specs:Windows 10 Home, 64-bitIntel I-7 core, 2.4GHZ8GB RAMNvidia GTX850m Load order directly from NMM: GameMode=Fallout4 Fallout4.esm=1ArmorKeywords.esm=1Robot Home Defence.esm=1SpringCleaning.esm=1Food&WaterGenerator.esp=1DifficultyXPScaling.esp=1no_level_reqs.esp=1DarkerNights.esp=1TrueStormsFO4.esp=1SC_ExpandedScrapList.esp=1Armorsmith Extended.esp=1Crafting Workbench.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Ammo.esp=1DV-Deadly Vertibirds.esp=1CompRedo.esp=1Companion Infinite Ammo and Unbreakable Power Armour.esp=1Craftable Armor Size.esp=1LegendaryModification.esp=1LongerPowerLines3x.esp=1MoreSpawns_High.esp=1NegativeAffinityIsPositiveAffinity.esp=1NoAffinityCooldown.esp=1Realistic Survival Damage.esp=1SniperDamage v3.0x.esp=1MinigunDamage v2.0x.esp=1LegendaryRarity10.esp=1LegendaryAllDifficulties10x.esp=1Combat_Helmet_Illumination 1.2.esp=1AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp=1VatsOverThere_IncreasedVATSRange_AimIncreaseMaxed.esp=1Brotherhood of Steel Kit.esp=1GlovesOfTheCommonwealth.esp=1Simple Intersection.esp=1AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Ballistic Weave.esp=1AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - No Crafting Perks.esp=1LegendaryModification2LM.esp=1LegendaryModification2LMAKPatch.esp=1LegendaryModificationCSA.esp=1LegendaryModificationGroknak.esp=1LegendaryModificationMisc.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Expanded.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Ammo Special.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Junk Items.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Power Armor.esp=1Crafting Workbenches - Pre War and Manufactured.esp=1All Military Skin pack.esp=1t45Metal.esp=1T45BattleDamaged.esp=1T45Military.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-LITE-Audio.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-ClimateSettings.esp=1Armorsmith Combat Helmet Illumination 1.2.esp=1AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - AWKCR.esp=1Crafting Workbench - GlovesOfTheCommonwealth Patch.esp=1TrueStormsFO4-NoConstantRads.esp=1DarkerNights-TrueStorms-LITE-Audio.esp=1DV-No Levelled Vertibirds.esp=1DV-Vertibird Explosive Minigun.esp=1 Edited January 25, 2016 by Santheocles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanzus Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I'm having this exact same issue, not sure what to do about it unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wax2k Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Please export your full load order from NMM in text form and put it here in spoiler tags and I'll provide recommendations. Edited January 23, 2016 by wax2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santheocles Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Please export your full load order from NMM in text form and put it here in spoiler tags and I'll provide recommendations. I'm curently in the process of doing another full reinstall, the moment it is done i'll post my loadorder.My loadorders are sorted with LOOT, if that gives you any indication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santheocles Posted January 23, 2016 Author Share Posted January 23, 2016 Load order has been added! Reinstall has sorted some effect, after every few tweaks i make, regarding INI files or the appdata folder, it takes just a few seconds longer before i crash. Still can't play but something looks like it's having an effect. Before reinstall: Crash on please stand by screen.After reinstall: Crash on the moving COG screen which follows the please stand byAfter tweaking and sorting: Crash when the "you're special" intro starts playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wax2k Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) The crashes before or at the main menu don't always have the exact same timing even when making no changes, so I don't think, your tweaks actually have any effect on that. I am a bit confused since in your original post you listed some settlement workshop mods, but I don't see any of them in your load order. Anyways: does NMM show any plugin in orange/red in the load order? Edited January 24, 2016 by wax2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santheocles Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 I deleted most of my list just to trim it down and try to locate the culprit, also NMM doesn't show any mods in orange or red in my load order. So i'm completely baffled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wax2k Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 Are you using the Fallout beta patches again? If so, try downgrading to retail 1.2.37. Other than that I don't have a specific idea. Probably just narrow it down, until you find the one mod causing it (I did get it right, that with all mods disabled, it works fine?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santheocles Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Fixed! Turns out the NMM was borking the installation of my mods. Doing a manual install after installing the mods with the NMM fixed the problem. Issues i found: When installing manually, after installing with NMM, sometimes the manual install netted 430 files to install, while the NMM install netted 260, so over 100 files were missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santheocles Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 Confirmed fix: I can now add and remove mods as I please without further CTD or other problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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