Iccotak Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Why is it that we can find malachite in Skyrim, the homeland of the Nords, and yet we cannot make a glass armor that reflects the Nord Culture? Yes there are Elves, but this is not about them, it's about the Nords! The project Skywind from TESrenewal created armor that refelcted the dark elf culture and looked suited for that environment. The glass armor is Skyrim does not look suited for the cold lands of Skyrim. Could we get a glass armor that has fur, with designs inspired by the Ancient Nordic pantheon. I think a good choice would be the Owl. (If this idea does not seem viable , perhaps someone could find a way to make the glass armor fit to the body more like shown in this concept art here: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9nsDdEtcsdo/UWL9Q8km4tI/AAAAAAAACRw/KT2pWF3mB3E/s1600/Glass_Armor%5BWEB%5D.jpg ) While I do respect the artist and all the work he put into the game, I do feel that not all of their descisions made sense entirely. Since each Elder Scroll game takes place in a different provinces I think it is better that the majority of the armors reflect the culture and people there and not have a mix of armors from all over Tamriel. The original glass armor should stick around due to the Thalmor prescence, but there could be more repesentation for the Nordic people of Skyrim. In ESO (Elder Scrolls Online) they simplified this by allowing the player to use different materials for the same "style". I could make Nordic style ebony armor, or Nordic style armor made from dwarven materials. However, what do you guys think? Agree or Disagree? Are there enough Nord Armors in the game? Do you think that this idea is lore breaking at all? What kind of designs should the armor have? Maybe I can do some sketches later. Please, let me know your thoughts! Image 1: The Owl represents Jhunal, from the Ancient Nordic Pantheon, the God of wisdomhttp://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/c/c4/Muralowl.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120501144313 Image 2: Two parter- Viking Helmet and Owl (Can you see the similarity between the two?)https://www.wulflund.com/img/goods/en/medium/viking_helmet_njord_combat_b.jpg http://cincinnatizoo.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/barn-owl-web.jpg Image 3: Vanilla Skyrim glass armorhttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/a/a1/Glass_Armor_Male.png/revision/latest?cb=20120513015540 Image 4: Skywind Glass Armorhttps://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/disp/7be0fd20234531.562e7ea02d226.jpg Edited January 25, 2016 by Iccotak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyP92 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I think you raise a very valid point. Something to link back to old lore is cool too :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonslayer2k12 Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I really hate sashes and robes on the lower parts of armor it just looks like a cheap way to hide complicated areas of the armor so they can just be left out which is usually the crotch area unless it is a female armor of course. This sort of thing is how fallout 4 handles armor and the whole armor system in that game is better than in skyrim but that stuff is hard coded I don't know how it could be implemented in skyrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kittybrod Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 I like that style of Armor. I would love to be able to have more armor (of any type really) in skyrim. As for there needing to be more Nordic Influences, I do agree, but one thing I keep in mind is that Skyrim has been part of the Empire for how long? Because of that, styles will change. While they would 'adapt' the style to fit the climate (which I find hilarious that you have men and women both running around in armor that barely covers them in a snow covered wasteland...), there would be a lot of outside influences in their 'present' day armor. However, I would think that even if they didn't wear it, they would have more traditional nordic armor. Perhaps an armorer is trying to bring back a revival of the ancient armors (which if you think about it, would make sense with the content of skyrim) As for the designs, it would depend on the wearer probably. For instance, I would like to see a 'cat' themed one (probably more stealth themed than anything) using sabrecat fur. Wolf themed (Loyalty?) using a wolf based . Stag, Troll, Perhaps even a dragon themed one. Think of the various animals we see running around Skyrim. That is probably what the ancients would have patterned their armors after and used in the construction (any fur) It would be interesting to see a glass armor with say a wolf's face done in glass on the breastplate of it with perhaps fur around the neck and shoulders and the rest metal. A stag based armor could be some what spiky with the glass looking someone like the Antlers of the stags (but sharpened to a razor sharp point so that the body can become a weapon ;) ) And since I think I am now rambling, I will let it go at that :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iccotak Posted January 26, 2016 Author Share Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) I really hate sashes and robes on the lower parts of armor it just looks like a cheap way to hide complicated areas of the armor so they can just be left out which is usually the crotch area unless it is a female armor of course. This sort of thing is how fallout 4 handles armor and the whole armor system in that game is better than in skyrim but that stuff is hard coded I don't know how it could be implemented in skyrim.It's a male model. Morrowind is a harsh land filled with ash, layers of cloth helps your skin breathe. When making the model they made the armor then added the sash on top. Also Dark elf clothing traditionally had sashes or cloth covering the lower half. I do not think it would be difficult to put the armor in the game considering how many armor mods there are that have already done this. I like that style of Armor. I would love to be able to have more armor (of any type really) in skyrim. As for there needing to be more Nordic Influences, I do agree, but one thing I keep in mind is that Skyrim has been part of the Empire for how long? Because of that, styles will change. While they would 'adapt' the style to fit the climate (which I find hilarious that you have men and women both running around in armor that barely covers them in a snow covered wasteland...), there would be a lot of outside influences in their 'present' day armor. However, I would think that even if they didn't wear it, they would have more traditional nordic armor. Perhaps an armorer is trying to bring back a revival of the ancient armors (which if you think about it, would make sense with the content of skyrim) As for the designs, it would depend on the wearer probably. For instance, I would like to see a 'cat' themed one (probably more stealth themed than anything) using sabrecat fur. Wolf themed (Loyalty?) using a wolf based . Stag, Troll, Perhaps even a dragon themed one. Think of the various animals we see running around Skyrim. That is probably what the ancients would have patterned their armors after and used in the construction (any fur) It would be interesting to see a glass armor with say a wolf's face done in glass on the breastplate of it with perhaps fur around the neck and shoulders and the rest metal. A stag based armor could be some what spiky with the glass looking someone like the Antlers of the stags (but sharpened to a razor sharp point so that the body can become a weapon :wink: ) And since I think I am now rambling, I will let it go at that :smile:Fair point with the amount of cover some Nord armor provides, lol. I think two designs that I would suggest staying away from would be dragons and wolves, because we already have armor sets with those traits. If someone were to amke a nord based glass armor, it would be best to stick with one design rather than trying to make multiple versions. Trying to make multiple versions of one type of armor for different playthroughs does not seem viable. There are a lot of armors to choose from for varying playthroughs. It would not be a bad idea to do something like Nordic Carved Armor. Inspirations from multiple animals to make one armor. Image of Armor: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/elderscrolls/images/f/f4/Nordic_Carved_Armor_-_Both.png/revision/latest?cb=20130213014232 However try to stick with their culture, the animals on the Noric carved armor are all from the Nordic pantheon. the bear and the hawk. There are still other animals on the pantheon that could be used. Like the Stag, Moth, Fox, Whale, Owl, and Snake (I would not recommend the Snake since he is actually described as the "Enemy God" in the Pantheon.) Link to lore on Noric Pantheon: http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Ancient_Nordic_Pantheon Edited January 26, 2016 by Iccotak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonslayer2k12 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 It is really too bad that nordic carved male armor is so badly rigged I usually just don't use it because the rigging is so bad on the right side of the chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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