hoots7 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Hello all! Thats an interesting tread so im gonna say some words about that. I'm russian by the way so u could learn a common russian guys's opinion about Stalin. I sure vote for devil, :rolleyes: dont be surprised! And i completely disagree with the guys who said that Stalin was a great leader(general) during the war. Im telling u he was not. The general whom u should refer as a great general was Jukov. So in fact he and his team won the war, not stalin. After the war Stalin was afraid of Jukov's influence so he made him a governer of far away province. Stalin really was paranoid! P.S.: im really sorry for all my mistakes =) Good to hear your opinion & your English Is 1000 times better than my Russian, (I think I only know about 5 words). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhaerlyn Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Bad guy, ... really really bad guy -- (there can be only one Devil ... and he has no chance at forgiveness ...Stalin COULD have changed but seems to have never chosen to do so :D ) i'm sure those who benefited from his changes, those who were on the inside, feel positively about him ... those who had family murdered, or those who escaped to the US and else where because of his pogroms, more than likely feel negatively :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamujiin Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 As far as the russian people that still love stalin, i robably consider them charly manson lovers also, ( in a sense you know what i mean ) People are not stupid. Somebody who killed roughly 10 million ( the numbers will never actually be known.) because they were political dissedents ( or were just accused of ), or just didnt agree with his policy's is certainaly not liked by his goverment. Stalin was enshrined after his death ( not sure where ) and when the fall of communist russia came to be, the people desicrated his shrine. and did something with his body ( cant remeber exactly as it has been awhile since this stuff interested me ). Lenin on the other hand, who was one of the founders of MARXISM not communism is still a russian historic figure to the people. Stalin was Lenins pupil during the Bolshevic thingy. Stalin actually was sent to siberia on a few occasions do to his paranoia, after lenins rise stalin even attempted assassinations ( not himself but some say he commanded it ) upon lenin. Anyway stalin i think was all of the above, paranoid, Delusioned, power hungry, had a god complex, and was another charsmatic leader that destroyed millions of lives. Seems to me we traded in hitler for stalin, which to me is tradin in one evil for another. By all means communism isnt bad in theory, all it does is cut out the "corporate" aspect of the economy, equalizes all people in the workforce and splits everything equally among the working class. The problem with communism is the corruption it stews. Leaders get greedy, people get greedy, then paranoid thn things mess up. The only truly succseful communist goverment in the world is china, but even then, they have no freedoms like those in the democratized nations of the world do. Also they renamed stalingrad to another name, ( on tip of my toungue ). There was a point in history where many of the united states Goverment officials aqgreed that if aliens came and asked take us to there leader, they would have sent them to russia. ( namely Gorbechov ) If my spelling sucks thats cause i am tired. Which gives me an idea for this forum........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamujiin Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Sorry double clicked computer malfunction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndorilTheGreat Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Hmmm... Interesting topic... Honestly, I would have to say that Stalin is NOT a hero. I wouldn't necessarily call him "The Devil," though. He probably could have been a great leader if he'd changed his ways... It's like Hitler. "A good leader, but the wrong ideas." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake4000 Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 and in the end...its all a punch and judy show that we call "history" Communism, Fascism, evil in all its varieties thoughout "History". Same angel, different gown. Who cares? Any ideology that does not hold peace and love and compassion as its highest ideal is evil and should not be supported by anyone. But as we know, the devil/satan loves to create divisions and get us all fighting one another over stupid petty labels and ideologies and even religion. Pfft. the blindness and stupidity some people have. so obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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