Strange neck stretching problem + dialogue camera

[danime91]

Alright, so I had recently downloaded BOSS and used it to sort my mods, as previously I had managed my load order manually. After doing so now I now have some strange problem with the meshes of vanilla human race characters (Imperials, Bretons, elves, etc, basically every race except custom races, beast races, and orcs) where their neck mesh stretches off into the distance. After checking and rechecking the skeleton and body mesh files, I can only think that one of the mods being in a different load order has caused this. Another problem I have is that when I engage people in dialogue, instead of the camera zooming in on their face, it stays in the same place as when I initiated the dialogue.

Here's the load order that BOSS gave me. The only things I moved around were Deadly Reflexes and some other animation mods in order to get them to work for other NPCs or just my character.

 

Oblivion.esm

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm

EnhancedWeather.esm

Kvatch Rebuilt.esm

CM Partners.esm

x117race.esm

ScreenEffects.esm

HorseCombatMaster.esm

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp

Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

LoadingScreens.esp

EnhancedWeather.esp

EnhancedWeather - Darker Nights, 50.esp

EnhancedWeather - SI.esp

Realistic Water.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

AliveWaters.esp

AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp

AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp

Kill_Bruma_Statue.esp

VA_BetterGold.esp

Enhanced Economy.esp

CleanQuit.esp

Get Wet v0.92.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp

EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp

[Hwii]Lancer_Dread.esp

Battle Princess.esp

BlessedMageKnightDress.esp

BWisteria.esp

Dancers clothes.esp

Dancing Shadow Rose Break Undies.esp

DSR&BSKMergedSet.esp

DawnWraith.esp

DHuntress.esp

Drake Knight Armor and Weapons v1.0.esp

Dread Knight Armor Addon.esp

Dread Knight Armor.esp

Gizmodian-VeraxanimaOblivion.esp

Hentai_Apple.esp

Hentai DarkSisterhoodArmor.esp

homura.esp

homura outfit HGEC.esp

icearmor.esp

Lich King's Helm v1_0.esp

New Frostmourne Sword by Jojjo v1_0.esp

NPR Knight Armor.esp

pizz_NINJA_outfit.esp

PTArtifacts.esp

Schwertleite Armor.esp

SPB Belt Girl.esp

sweetclothes.esp

R18PN - Fiona Armor.esp

R18PN - Heilige Mutter Armor.esp

R18PN - Lingeries.esp

DM-Butterfly Widow.esp

The Last Queen Of The Ayleids.esp

Ivellon.esp

AranMathi.esp

BladeSong.esp

HentaiLovelyHouse.esp

Hentai Mania.esp

Kvatch Rebuilt.esp

GlenvarCastle.esp

mystery of mausoleum.esp

Tona's_ModsStore.esp

Knights.esp

EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp

TOTF.esp

Castle_Almgard-V2.esp

HentaiMania2.esp

BloodSpray.esp

EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp

SpellSinger.esp

SetBody.esp

RenGuardOverhaul.esp

RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp

'Eagle Eye' Realistic Archery v1.0 Fixed.esp

seph dual wield.esp

SaveSkillTrainingForLater.esp

77_Umpa_Sexy_walk.esp

SWalk.esp

DMC Stylish - Specialanims.esp

Corean_hair_for_Original_race.esp

CM Partners.esp

_Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp

Slof's Playable Xivilai.esp

Mayu's Animation Overhaul.esp

SeductiveIdles.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp

Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp

IDKRRR_C_race.esp

IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esp

DesuChan's Persocoms RELOADED.esp

DKImperials.esp

Chocolate Elves.esp

eyja.esp

X.Dea.Obscura.esp

CM Partners NPC.esp

CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp

CM Partners Belle.esp

EVE_KhajiitFix.esp

KT_CustomRaceFix.esp

fwBoethiaCustomRaceFix.esp

personality_idles4_nnpc.esp

Dremora female.esp

hantai mapbook.esp

[Hwi]Hgec Replacer.esp

YAARM_Iron.esp

UFF Dark Illusion School Uniform.esp

Centurion Armour mod.esp

SPB Belt Girl 2.esp

EyesHengel.esp

WG.esp

PSO01.esp

GloriousMageDress.esp

DSR WR Alternative BU.esp

DarkIllusionArmor_EyesF.esp

dia_separate_ver.esp

CM Partners DRUM.esp

Slof's Playable Xivilai - 2-hand Weapons.esp

Blades BU.esp

RRElphintos.esp

cmDrianna.esp

Kaleencolors.esp

SwordArrow.esp

Scarbard.esp

DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

[Kuraikiba]

With that many mods, I am rather shocked you don't have way more problems. Trying to find a problem there is like looking for hay-colored hay in a field of haystacks.

[MotoSxorpio]

HMMM. That one looks fun to work out. Definately need the latest masterlist and maybe this could help: http://forums.bethsoft.com/index.php?/topic/1161742-relz-boss-master-list-manager/ I don't do BOSS, I do manual ordering and that was a long hard process to learn. OBMM has an export feature, once you've straightened out the load order you can export it to txt or OBMM readable file. Wrye Bash is advisable as it will help with those race mods by "merging" some of the info in them into a "BashedPatch.esp"

[danime91]

@MOTOSXORPIO: I had actually just gotten BOSS and updated the masterlist today, and the problem is still there. Honestly, I should have just stuck with manual ordering like I had always done up til this point, but a lot of people said that BOSS works great so I decided to give it a shot.

 

EDIT: Well after deactivating virtually every single mod on my list, it seems that the problem lies not in the load order but somewhere in the animation files or something. Here's some pictures to show what my problems are.

 

 

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/danime91/ScreenShot0-1.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff298/danime91/ScreenShot1-1.jpg

 

 

The first one shows the neck stretching into oblivion problem, while the second one shows the camera not zooming in on NPC's face during a conversation problem. The neck problem I'd really like to get fixed, while the camera problem is merely annoying and I could probably live with it.

 

Worst comes to worst I'll just have to attempt a full uninstall/reinstall, but considering the massive amount of mods I'd have to reinstall, I'd like to avoid taking that route.

Edited May 19, 2011 by danime91

[LordEmm]

This problem is most certainly skeleton related. Try to use Growlfs universal skeleton or Coronerra's. Sadly TESNEXUS has MySQL problems for me or i would link you!

 

EDIT: links:

 

Growlfs

 

Maximum Compatability Skeleton

Edited May 19, 2011 by LordEmm

[MotoSxorpio]

whoops...I didn't see your link. Edited May 19, 2011 by MOTOSXORPIO

[SceneGG]

I noticed there wasn't a bashed patch in that list, so I'm assuming you aren't using Wrye Bash. Personally I would recommend using it, especially with the different beauty mods you're using. It will also help to cut down on the number of loaded ESPs by merging / including most of them into the bashed patch (UOP Vampire aging & face fix for example)

[AurianaValoria1]

I would definitely recommend Wrye Bash, if you don't have it. It works together with BOSS.

 

Here is Hickory's advice regarding a bashed patch (which has saved me on numerous occasions):

 

 

After BOSS has completed, build a Bashed Patch according to this:

 

Copy the Bashed Patch, 0.esp from the mopy\extras\ folder into your \\Data\ folder and run BOSS. Then, in Wrye Bash right click on Bashed Patch, 0.esp and select 'Rebuild Patch' -- in the latest version of Wrye Bash there is no need to right click and select 'Mark Merged', as it's all done automatically.

 

When you press 'Rebuild Patch', make sure that you check the following:

 

Merge Patches

Import ... [Go through each 'import' option and if there's a mod, not csv in the right window, check it, and the Import... option.]

Cobl Catalogs [ONLY if you use Cobl]

Contents Checker

Leveled Lists

Race Records

SEWorld Tests [ONLY if you have Shivering Isles installed]

 

The Globals and Tweaks are optional, but should not be checked unless you know what you are doing, and should be left alone while you are troubleshooting. Everything else should be left unchecked UNLESS you know that you need it.

 

Edited May 19, 2011 by AurianaValoria1