Why does my Oblivion Crash as soon as I enter a new cell? (HELP!)

[h93b]

Hi.

 

For hours now I've been trying to get my modded Oblivion to work but gosh darn it, it won't. Is is something wrong with my load order, conflicting mods or is it a wrye bash problem?

It is getting kinda frustrating now, and not to seem desperate but ^{PLEASE HELP!}

 

My load order:

 

Oblivion.esm

All Natural Base.esm

Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm

Cobl Main.esm

Better Cities Resources.esm

Cobl Races TNR.esp

Cobl Races TNR SI.esp

Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

Better Cities .esp

All Natural.esp

All Natural - SI.esp

Immersive Interiors.esp

Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp

All Natural - Real Lights.esp

WindowLightingSystem.esp

Book Jackets Oblivion.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp

ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp

ImprovedSigns.esp

Enhanced Economy.esp

Display Stats.esp

DropLitTorchOBSE.esp

DLCHorseArmor.esp

DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCOrrery.esp

DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCVileLair.esp

DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCSpellTomes.esp

CapesandCloaks.esp

Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp

DLCThievesDen.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp

Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp

Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp

Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp

Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Locks.esp

Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp

Francesco's Optional New Adventurers.esp

Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp

Cobl Glue.esp

Cobl Si.esp

Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp

Alluring Wine Bottles.esp

Oblivifall - Something's Not Right.esp

Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp

LetThePeopleDrink.esp

The Imperial Water - BETTER CITIES.esp

VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp

24HrArenaAliveV2.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp

DLCFrostcrag.esp

DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp

Knights.esp

Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp

xuldarkforest.esp

xulStendarrValley.esp

xulTheHeath.esp

XulEntiusGorge.esp

xulFallenleafEverglade.esp

xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp

xulChorrolHinterland.esp

xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp

xulBravilBarrowfields.esp

xulLushWoodlands.esp

xulAncientYews.esp

xulAncientRedwoods.esp

xulCloudtopMountains.esp

xulArriusCreek.esp

xulPatch_AY_AC.esp

xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp

xulPantherRiver.esp

xulRiverEthe.esp

xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp

xulImperialIsle.esp

xulBlackwoodForest.esp

xulCheydinhalFalls.esp

xulAspenWood.esp

xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

xulSnowdale.esp

xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp

xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp

ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp

ImpeREAL Empire Unique Cities - Sutch.esp

Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp

Cliff_BetterLetters.esp

2nd to 1st person.esp

Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp

Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

SupremeMagicka.esp

SM_ShiveringIsles.esp

SM_EnchantStaff.esp

StealthOverhaul.esp

No psychic guards v1.2.esp

kuerteeCrimeHasWitnesses.esp

Cobl Races.esp

Better Cities Full.esp

Better Imperial City.esp

Better Cities - All Natural.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp

Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp

Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp

Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

 

 

 

 

Thanks in advance,

h93b

[Ahrkonh]

one issue i saw is that you should probably switch these two around and give that a try

DLCShiveringIsles.esp

Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp

[MotoSxorpio]

Yes, also I think ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp should be one or the other, the latter being a patch for Better Cities, IIRC. You need BOSS: http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516

[h93b]

Thanks for the replies guys, I am using boss and it doesnt alert of anything in particular. But I'll look in to what you said.

 

Thanks,

h93b

[h93b]

So, now I tried what you guys said, disabled the clocksofcyrodiil.esp and put the unof. SI patch to load before the dlcshiveringisles.esp, but it still crashes.

 

Worth mentioning is that I use a couple of texture replacers as well (But I've got I good rig that handles the fps well), for example

 

Qarl's texture pack III

 

and

 

Imperial City Reloaded

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=36779

 

 

I've had Qarls since I installed the game and it has been working fine, however, I recently installed the IC replacer and since I did it seems like my game have been more unstable.

Edited May 19, 2011 by h93b

[tastatura]

Well, what I do in that case is try to isolate the problem slowly.

 

First, copy your save games somewhere safe, so they don't get messed up. Then, first deactivate all mods and see if the game works ok that way. After that, activate just the first half and see if anything changes. If it's ok, then the problem is somewhere in the other half, if not, your faulty mod is in the half you activated. Continue expanding/narrowing the activated mods selection until you have pinpointed the exact one that's causing the problem. It's tedious I know, but it actualy can be done in about 15/20 minutes, and it saves a lot of nerves on the end :)

Edited May 19, 2011 by tastatura

[LordEmm]

Uhhm, guys, why do you suggest load the Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch before, you know Shivering Isles? Wouldn't kinda make the patch moot?

 

I do not see anything in particular wrong, and i am not familiar with Fran's, but shouldn't COBL Races go BEFORE the TNR? Should they even be all three loaded? I seem to remember something along those lines form the COBL docs...

[SceneGG]

BOSS loads Cobl Races quite low in the order, While Cobl TNR is right near the top. TNR / SI also need to be unchecked, and just be tag imported into the bashed patch (NPC & Race iirc)

 

If you haven't already, I suggest using BOSS to sort out your load order (the OP's LO looks like it does anyway).

 

@OP You could look into cleaning some of the mods - this page has a list of mods that do & don't need cleaning, as well as a link on how to clean them.

 

As mentioned earlier, you need to deactivate the Clocks of Cyrodill.esp, as BBC's version is a replacer (afaik it just causes you to have duplicate clocksin certain locations)

 

Other than that, do you use any Hi Res texture replacers like Qarl's, Bomret's? If yes, then your crashes could be just caused by GPU/CPU/Memory overload. I would suggest getting Oblivion Stutter Remover and Streamline to help with memory purges & FPS etc. (You could also use the Better Cities FPS patches too)

 

I would also try running without Salmo activated - That has been known to cause CTDs in the past, and it also doesn't run well with Immersive Interiors at this current time (you'll fall through the shop floor)

[LordEmm]

Yeah Streamline is definitely a good idea even on High End machines although it will take some tweaking and a LOT of doc reading ;) OSR, your mileage may vary. I turned it off recently and found my game to be more stable actually. however the Oblivion Crash Prevention System by we and FastExit2 are very useful.

 

BOSS is also not the end all to load order, as it frequently puts patches BEFORE the files they are supposed to patch even when they are known. But it is a good guide. Just make sure your load order has none of that before you start the game. Use Wrye Bash or OBMM to hand sort your order for the few mistakes BOSS makes.