Ilikehummus Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Hello everyone, So I was experiencing constant crashes and decided to make a clean save to see whether it was save corruption, or something else. I disabled all esps and made a double clean save in the testing hall. After re-enabling the mods I really needed, my game freezes on startup. I had not installed anything new, nor had I moved anything around in my load order before making a double clean save. Load order: 00 Oblivion.esm01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36]02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.74]03 Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm04 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]05 Artifacts.esm06 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 6.0.6]07 A_Bloody_Mess.esm08 BathingMod_Base.esm09 CustomSpellIcons.esm0A HorseCombatMaster.esm0B realisticleveling.esm0C Knights - Revelation.esm++ GrassFix.esp0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.4]++ Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp [Version 1.5.7]0F Better Cities .esp [Version 6.0.5]** LoadingScreens.esp** LoadingScreensSI.esp10 All Natural.esp [Version 1.36]** All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.36]11 Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 0.8.1]12 atmospheres.esp** Better Bell Sounds.esp++ Symphony of Violence.esp13 Atmospheric Oblivion.esp14 Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.1]15 All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.36]16 WindowLightingSystem.esp17 AliveWaters.esp18 AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp19 AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp** Book Jackets Oblivion.esp1A ImprovedSigns.esp1B More Effective Enchantments.esp1C Paladin.esp++ PalePassIce.esp1D RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.7]** VA_BetterGold.esp1E Populated Prisons.esp [Version 1.2]1F CTEFastSaver.esp20 FormID Finder4.esp21 Get Wet.esp22 LazyPCB.esp23 Oblivion Fragrance.esp24 OblivionReloaded.esp++ OblivionReloadedArenaCombat.esp25 Put Me In My Place - PlayerInSEWorld.esp [Version 1.0]26 Quest Log Manager.esp [Version 1.3.2]27 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1]28 Guild Map Markers.esp29 WayshrineMapMarkers.esp2A Enhanced Hotkeys.esp [Version 2.3.1]2B DLCHorseArmor.esp** DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]2C DLCOrrery.esp2D DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]2E DLCVileLair.esp** DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11]2F DLCMehrunesRazor.esp** DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]30 Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp [Version 1.0]31 DLCSpellTomes.esp++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]** Book Jackets DLC.esp32 DeliveranceFireEnch.esp33 DMACArmor.esp34 Griffon Fortress 7.2.esp** RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp35 Rogue Battlemage Armor.esp++ Weapon Improvement Project.esp [Version 1.9]** Roberts Armamentium female.esp** Slof's Horses Base.esp** Slof's Extra Horses.esp36 DLCThievesDen.esp** DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.13]37 Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp [Version 1.0]38 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73]39 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]++ Cobl Tweaks - SI.esp3A Cobl Patch - Silent Misc Item Equip.esp [Version 01]++ ArmamentariumLL.esp [Version 1.35]++ ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp [Version 1.35]++ ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp [Version 1.35]3B ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp [Version 1.35]3C WAC.esp** WAC - OverSpawn.esp3D WAC - BlackBootDungeon.esp** WAC - Dead Knights.esp3E WAC - Player Summons.esp** WAC - Birds&Insects.esp** WAC - Companions.esp++ WAC - Horses.esp3F WAC - TCOS.esp40 WAC - TCOS Shops.esp [Version 03]41 WAC - Legion.esp42 WAC - Gladiator.esp43 WAC - Magic.esp44 0WeynonPrioryAlive.esp45 Artifacts.esp++ Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]** Better Abandoned House.esp [Version 2.01]46 Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp [Version 3.41-Cobl]++ BDBS - Brighter Interiors.esp [Version 3.41]47 Better Benirus Manor.esp [Version 5.0-Cobl-SI]++ Better Benirus Manor - AN Patch.esp [Version 5.0]48 Better Benirus Manor - RL Patch.esp [Version 5.0]49 Better Rosethorn Hall.esp [Version 1.1]++ Better Rosethorn Hall - Cobl Patch.esp [Version 1.1]4A HackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp4B BrotherhoodRenewed.esp [Version 1.1.2]4C CRTRenewed.esp4D Fighters Guild Quests.esp4E Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 3.0]++ Kvatch Rebuilt Fixes.esp** Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp4F Mages Guild Quests.esp50 Punk Stevo - Brutal Underground.esp51 Reaper's The Necromancer's Tower.esp52 ReapersNecomancerTower-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp53 Rise Of A Samurai.esp54 Temple District Repaired.esp [Version 1.0]55 TheReturnOfTheDarkBrotherhood.esp56 TheShunnedShack.esp57 Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp58 VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.5.6]59 Whispered Warning.esp5A BDBS - Whispered Warning Patch.esp [Version 3.41]5B 24HrArenaAliveV2.esp5C DLCBattlehornCastle.esp5D DLCBattlehornCastleCOBL.esp5E DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.11]5F DLCFrostcrag.esp60 Frostcrag_LOD.esp** DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]61 DLCFrostcragReborn.esp [Version 1.4.7]++ Kvatch Rebuilt + Frostcrag Reborn De-Isolated Teleport Patch.esp [Version 1.0]62 BrumaGuildReconstructed.esp [Version 1.0.2]63 FrostcragRebornCobl.esp64 Knights.esp65 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.6]66 Knights - Revelation.esp67 Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp [Version 1.0]68 TOTF.esp++ TOTF Delayer.esp69 RTT.esp6A RTT-Weye Relocation Patch.esp [Version 2.0.1]6B AFK_Weye.esp [Version 2.32.COBL]++ VHB-Battlehorn-AFK Patch.esp6C MannimarcoRevisited.esp6D MannimarcoWardrobeChest.esp6E Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp6F ElsweyrAnequina.esp++ ElsweyrAnequinaNoSpidersPatch.esp70 ReclaimSancreTor.esp [Version 1.0.5]71 Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 1.0]++ ROC+Fighters Guild Quests.esp++ ROC+Shadowcrest Vineyard Patch.esp [Version 1.0]72 Better daedric shrines full.esp73 HackdirtAlive.esp74 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]++ WAC-ULdarkforest-patch.esp75 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]76 xulTheHeath.esp77 xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1]78 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]++ Anequina-Fallenleaf-Patch.esp79 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2]++ WAC-ULchorrolhinterland-patch.esp++ 0WeynonPrioryAlive-xulChorrolHinterlands Patch.esp [Version 1.0]7A xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5]7B WAC - xulBCLostCoast.esp7C xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.5]7D xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.3]7E xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4]7F xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]++ ROC+Ancient Redwoods.esp [Version 1.0]80 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]++ RST+Cloudtop Mountains.esp [Version 1.1]81 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4]82 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]83 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3]84 xulPantherRiver.esp85 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]++ TheShunnedShack - UL.esp86 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1]87 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8]88 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.1]89 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]8A TearsOfTheFiend-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp8B xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.3]8C xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2]++ ROC+RST+Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 1.0]8D xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.6]8E FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp++ Snowdale - Fighters Guild Quests Patch.esp8F RiseOfASamurai-Snowdale patch.esp90 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.1.3]++ RST+Cliffs of Anvil.esp [Version 1.2]91 xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.4]92 xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.2]93 xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.2]94 GriffonFortress-EasternPeaks Patch.esp++ BetterDaedricShrinesFull-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp [Version 2.0]95 Sutch Village.esp [Version 1.0.4]++ LostCoast + SutchVillage Patch.esp [Version 1.0]++ RST+Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 1.1]++ Real Lava 1.3.esp96 Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp [Version 1.2.5]97 Banes Guilds United.esp++ Banes Guilds United FGQuests patch.esp++ Banes Guilds United BrumaGuild patch.esp++ Banes Guilds United KR patch.esp98 A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp99 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 6.3.2]9A DecoratorAssistant with OBSE v1.1.esp++ ExpandedGreetings.esp [Version 1.0]** Grass Overhaul.esp9B GuildAdvancementBGU.esp9C TSS The Sex System.esp9D Alternative Beginnings.esp [Version 1.4.3]9E Alternative Beginnings - Kvatch Intact.esp [Version 3.0]9F BathingMod_Soap.espA0 BathingMod_Placeable_Bathtubs.esp++ BathingMod_ABMCP_Bathtubs.espA1 Vampire Revolution.esp [Version v1.13]A2 SetEssentialActors.espA3 Smite of Order.espA4 Telekinetic Mastery.esp [Version 2]A5 SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.90b]A6 SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_DLCSpellTome.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.90]A7 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.90]++ SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.90]A8 MidasSpells.espA9 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5]AA Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.espAB DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espAC kuerteeNPCsYield.esp++ ArgonianBeautification-RaceSettings.espAD Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0]** Better Cities Full.esp [Version 6.0.6]AE Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp [Version 6.0.2]AF BC_Aristocrat_UL Patch.esp** Better Imperial City.esp [Version 6.0.6]++ All Natural Real Lights - Better Cities IC Patch.espB0 Better Cities Chorrol - Immersive Interiors.esp [Version 6.0.4]** Better Cities - All Natural.esp [Version 6.0.4]++ Better Cities Skingrad - Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 6.0.6]++ Better Cities IC Imperial Isle - Roads of Cyrodiil.esp [Version 6.0.0]++ Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 1.5]** Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp [Version 6.0.0]B1 xulChorrolHinterland-BC6.esp** Better Cities Anvil Open - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 6.0.0]B2 Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp [Version 6.0.4]** Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp [Version 6.0.0]** Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 1.5]++ Better Abandoned House - BC_OBC_UL Patch.esp [Version 2.01]B3 Better Cities Chorrol - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp [Version 6.0.4]++ Better Cities IC Arena - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp [Version 6.0.0]B4 Better Cities Skingrad - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp [Version 6.0.0]B5 Better Cities IC Arena - WAC Gladiator.esp [Version 6.0.4]++ Better Cities Bravil - Unique Landscape Panther River patch.esp [Version 1.5]** Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 1.5]++ Better Cities - Unique Landscape Snowdale.esp [Version 1.5]B6 Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp [Version 6.0.0]++ FGQ-BC6 Patch.esp++ BattlehornUpgraded-AltCH Patch.esp++ Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 6.0.4]++ Better Cities IC Waterfront - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 1.5]++ Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp [Version 6.0.0]++ Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp [Version 6.0.3]** [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp** GW71_Life_Detect.espB7 qazFingerSnap.esp++ SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.90]++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.36]B8 Bashed Patch, 0.espB9 Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp [Version 4.6.3] Thanks, have a good day. 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Ilikehummus Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 An update, it appears that it is freezing a few seconds into launching the game, it doesn't happen instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker879 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 After re-enabling all your mods you did rebuild your bashed patch ... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilikehummus Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 Yeah, I deleted it and remade one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker879 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 What is up with the mods I see in your list with ** beside them (not the ++ mods, they are merged into the bashed patch and deactivated) ... ones like **Better Cities Full.esp [Version 6.0.6]? If that one isn't activated you're going to get a missing master type crash I would think (don't use BC myself, but I do know there are a bunch of patches that would rely on that ESP as master). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilikehummus Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 Ahh, I just imported some of the assets in the esp to my bashed patch, while keeping them active. The author of BC Vorians says there's nothing wrong with doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker879 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 So are the ** mods deactivated or mods that you have manually merged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilikehummus Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 Most are merged and deactivated, besides Better Cities and All Natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilikehummus Posted February 27, 2016 Author Share Posted February 27, 2016 I do not believe I am missing any masters, as I freeze, instead of the usual CTD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker879 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 Is it the same if you start a new character (for testing)? I'm thinking maybe something to do with the save you're using to test. You could also try an older save (to find out if the "save cleaning" is at fault). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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