EightLights Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) EDIT (2nd UPDATE): UNRESOLVED AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ENB I would like to thank everyone who helped, especially Tony, who was amazing and very patient, but I just can't get it to work EDIT (UPDATE): After a clean install, I had vanilla crashing in a new save before getting to Riverwood. After the help of some fantastic members here, I managed to somewhat stabilize my game and slowly add a few mods. Now the game crashes or freezes withing 3 minutes of loading (but at least vanilla is stable, unlike before). I'm running SKSE and ENB. If anyone can help I would be gratefull Ugh... here we go. So this morning I decided to install the realvision ENB on my game. I had no problem but since I choose the letterbox effect and the bars were asymmetrical, I reinstalled it normally, with out letterboxes. DISASTER Now, as soon as I walk around Skyrim, the game CTD (with or without ENB) and I can't load any save without Safety Load. I used to have a similar problem, but I fixed it by installing ENB I also did not add any new mods. I tried:Re-installing Realvision ENB with previous settingsRe-installing ENBUN-installing ENBRe-installing ENBRun Loot just in caseReload previous saves to the changesTweaking ENB settings. Really, I need some help here, I've been at it all day Here ar my ENBlocal.ini settings [PROXY]EnableProxyLibrary=falseInitProxyFunctions=trueProxyLibrary=d3d9.dll [GLOBAL]UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=falseUseDefferedRendering=trueIgnoreCreationKit=true [PERFORMANCE]SpeedHack=trueEnableOcclusionCulling=true [MEMORY]ExpandSystemMemoryX64=trueReduceSystemMemoryUsage=trueDisableDriverMemoryManager=falseDisablePreloadToVRAM=falseEnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=falseReservedMemorySizeMb=512VideoMemorySizeMb=8192EnableCompression=falseAutodetectVideoMemorySize=false [THREADS]DataSyncMode=1PriorityMode=0EnableUnsafeFixes=false [MULTIHEAD]ForceVideoAdapterIndex=falseVideoAdapterIndex=0 [WINDOW]ForceBorderless=falseForceBorderlessFullscreen=false [ENGINE]ForceAnisotropicFiltering=trueMaxAnisotropy=16ForceLodBias=falseLodBias=0.0AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=falseEnableVSync=trueVSyncSkipNumFrames=0 [LIMITER]WaitBusyRenderer=falseEnableFPSLimit=falseFPSLimit=10.0 [iNPUT]//shiftKeyCombination=16//f12KeyUseEffect=123//homeKeyFPSLimit=36//num / 106KeyShowFPS=106//print screenKeyScreenshot=44//enterKeyEditor=13//f4KeyFreeVRAM=115//BKeyBruteForce=66 [ADAPTIVEQUALITY]Enable=falseQuality=1DesiredFPS=20.0 [ANTIALIASING]EnableEdgeAA=falseEnableTemporalAA=falseEnableSubPixelAA=false [FIX]FixGameBugs=trueFixParallaxBugs=trueFixParallaxTerrain=falseFixAliasedTextures=trueIgnoreInventory=trueFixTintGamma=trueRemoveBlur=falseFixSubSurfaceScattering=trueFixSkyReflection=trueFixCursorVisibility=trueFixLag=false [LONGEXPOSURE]EnableLongExposureMode=falseTime=1.0BlendMax=0.0 And the PCDesktopIntel i7-6700 @ 3.40 GHz8,00 Gb RAMNvidea GTX 950Windows 7 Ultimate x67 Thanks in advance EDIT: Oh, btw, I've been running ENB smoothly for ages now. It's the first time this is happening. I'm also using Mod Organizer Edit: Well, it must be something with my mods, apparently. Just tried vanilla + enb and had no crash, even though I didn't add/removed any mod Here's my mod list, just in case # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmDawnguard.esmHearthFires.esmDragonborn.esmSkyrim Project Optimization - No Homes.esmApachiiHair.esmApachiiHairMales.esmApachiiHairFemales.esmUnofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.espETaC - RESOURCES.esmKet_ARMONIZER_v2.esmNewWorld.esmClimatesOfTamriel.esmRSkyrimChildren.esmRaceCompatibility.esmTERAArmors.esmHighResTexturePack01.espHighResTexturePack02.espHighResTexturePack03.espSkyrim Project Optimization - No Homes.espRealistic crime report radius.esp01ERA.espBeards.espSRA -Immersive Weapons Patch.espNoblesseOblige.espHeadtracking.espEbony Mage Armor.espLordOfWar_TW2.espDreamBurrowsRegalHuntsmanArmor.espChesko_WearableLantern.espfountain guard armor maty743.espCrimeDecay.espChesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.espAsharaImperialOutfit.espAMatterOfTime.espBloody Cannibalism.espBrows.espSAM - Shape Atlas for Men.espJaxonzArcheryUtil.espJaxonzRenamer.espSerana.espFNIS.espJaxonzNamedSave.espMasters of Death - Sicarius Armor (Standalone).espClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.espKS Hairdo's.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espAV1AlluringEyes.espFaraam Set.espFNIS_PCEA2.espFierce Foxes.espLuddemann.espBarenziahQuestMarkers.espHothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.espImportantInformationOverhaul.espInvisibility Eyes Fix.espJaxonzDroppableStatics.espWhen Vampires Attack.espSpeechTree.espPipeSmoking.espCharacterMakingExtender.espSkyrim Bigger Trees Full.espELFX - Exteriors.espimmersive roads.espETaC - Falkreath.espSkyrim Flora Overhaul.espVerdant - A Skyrim Grass Plugin.espETaC - Morthal.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.espETaC - Dawnstar.espDr_Bandolier.espClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.espETaC - Winterhold.espDarkbroSanctuary.espPlatedMagiArmor.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espRSChildren - Complete.espFort Dawnguard Overhaul.espSAM - Dawnguard Patch.espSkyUI.espDual Sheath Redux.espSkyrim Realistic Archery.espNordicBow&Arrow.espSkyrim Realistic Archery - Unique Bows patch.espGhosu - Weapon Pack 1.espBetter Dynamic Snow.espClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.espNatural Lighting and Atmospherics.espTrueStorms.espUnique Grasses.espTen Slots for Enchanting vanilla.espVioLens.espDragon Combat Overhaul.espdD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.espWanderer's Surcoat.espWetandCold.espWetandCold - Ashes.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.espWintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.espTH3WICK3D1-HawkeMageArmor.espImmersive Jewelry.espDovahBlingJewelryReplacer.espSmithingTree.espBetterDawnguardRewards.espETaC - Rorikstead.espETaC - Riverwood.espETaC - Dragon Bridge.espETaC - Dragon Bridge South.espEnhancedCharacterEdit.espFS_UltimateAssortment.espNPC_Overhaul_V_3_.espRealShelter.espDawnofSolitude.espETaC - Kynesgrove.espEliteKnightArmor.espETaC - Ivarstead.espElysiumEstate.espElysiumEstate-HF.espCivil War Overhaul.espThunderchild - Epic Shout Package.espMore Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.espImmersive Solstheim.espDawnofWindhelm.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espETaC - Karthwasten.espGuardAnimationsGDO.espImmersive Weapons.espHigeyosi Katana Pack.espETaC - Darkwater Crossing.espJKs Windhelm DoW comp.espRSPatch.espClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.espTrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.espRevampedExteriorFog.espWATER DG + DB.espImmersive Stonehills.espInconsequential NPCs.espJKs Solitude.espDawnofWhiterun.espJKs Riften.espCloaks.espCloaks - Dawnguard.espRun For Your Lives.espDawnofRiften.espKet_ARMONIZER_LListsNPC.espBijin AIO.espBijin Warmaidens.espBijin NPCs.espBijin Wives.espMales of Skyrim.espImmersive Shors Stone.espJKs Whiterun DofW Comp.espJKs Markarth.espStealth Skills Rebalanced_COMPLETE.espThe Worship of Daedra.espdawnguard sentries.espActualize Apparel.espSMIM-Merged-All.espSFO - Dragonborn.espDragonFastTravelRedone.espPopulated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.espDragon Falls Manor.espElisShackPro.espJKs Whiterun exterior.espSilence of the Divines.espSkoomaNA.espAurora - Standing Stones of Skyrim.espMore Interesting Loot for Skyrim.espDragonBlood.espDawnofMarkarth.espEnchanting - IDWIW.espDarkend.espskoomaeffect.espThe Huntsman.espYesThorSwords.espShortcuts.espCanalHome.espbm_SimpleAction.espJaxonzEnhGrab.espNordicCooking.espWhiterun Ferns.espFNISspells.espNewermind Bow Collection.espTheRookery.espSneak Tools.espFPI Gallery.espSneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.espBlackSacramentDBReplacer.espSneak Tools Vanilla Masks.espSL99GRings.espSicarius' Refuge.espThiefsHideout.espisilNarsil.espScopedBows.espNordic Wanderer.espBlackSacramentArmor.espEquipping Overhaul.espIceBladeOfTheMonarch.espCampingKitNorthernRanger.espImaginator BETA.espXPMSE.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espdD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.espiHUD.espnormandy.espReal Clouds.espdovahkiinrelax.espvImmersiveBeds.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Edited March 6, 2016 by EightLights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhmesRaht Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 You mention you did not add any new mods, but out of curiosity did you remove any? Removing esps from you load order can cause lots of issues for saves. Have you tried for instance starting a brand new game at Helgen? If this doesn't work either, then we can count save game damage out of the question. I am suspicious about the enb working as a "fix" since as far as I am aware enbs simply don't fix game breaking issues like you are describing. Was there anything you installed at the same time you installed the enb the first time that might actually have been what helped fix the original problem? (Maybe the enb author's page had a helpful suggestion for skse plugins that reduced crash frequency, or an unofficial patch). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EightLights Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) You mention you did not add any new mods, but out of curiosity did you remove any? Removing esps from you load order can cause lots of issues for saves. Have you tried for instance starting a brand new game at Helgen? If this doesn't work either, then we can count save game damage out of the question. I am suspicious about the enb working as a "fix" since as far as I am aware enbs simply don't fix game breaking issues like you are describing. Was there anything you installed at the same time you installed the enb the first time that might actually have been what helped fix the original problem? (Maybe the enb author's page had a helpful suggestion for skse plugins that reduced crash frequency, or an unofficial patch). Well, I had to enable Safety Load, the game was working fine with out it before. Then I had a bug (out of no where, just re-starting the game normally) where SkyUI had a weird bug (same as in this post http://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/1251248-strange-flashing-polygons-on-inventory-and-ctd/) and apparently it was a conflict or something with Safety Load, so I re-installed, and updated, SkyUI. I have tried a new game, and as soon as I leave the cave, I take a couple of steps, annnnd crash. I believe I was having a memory problem and enboost fixed it, at least, no more crashes for 2 months. No patches or anything, downloaded directly from the enb site and was using Insomnia ENB Frozen Vale with no problems up until this morning EDIT: Reverted again to Insomnia ENB Frozen Vale, crash... Edited February 29, 2016 by EightLights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshieboy Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 I have decided to hop over to your thread!In response to your question, did you use MO setting up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EightLights Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 Ok! Update on the situation! I used a backup of my mod list as have been re-installing a couple of mods and now, instead of crashing, the game freezes shortly after I start walking. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshieboy Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 Does the game resume or stay frozen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EightLights Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) I have decided to hop over to your thread! In response to your question, did you use MO setting up? Oh, hey! (sorry, I shouldn't have takenover your thread with my problem :sweat: )I found the STEP guide, and made sure everything was ok before I decided to burn it with fire xD MO is set properly. I'm sure this is mod related now Does the game resume or stay frozen?Stays frozen. Could it have something to do with finis, I wonder? Edited February 29, 2016 by EightLights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JatharTV Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 (edited) - Edited March 1, 2016 by JatharTV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhmesRaht Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 If you are experiencing crashing like that my suspicion would not be finis, although it certainly wouldn't hurt to update to the newest version & run it so it can accommodate any potential issues. I can't imagine enbboost helping to eliminate issues not created originally by an enb. Enboost allows your enb to play nicer with Skyrim, but it shouldn't be able to rectify issues of memory that the enb isn't directly causing. At this point I would suggest-backing up your Skyrim Ini & prefs (found in my documents/Skyrim) & placing them temporarily in a different direction, running the Skyrim Launcher and allowing it rebuild fresh inis.-Going into Steam & Right clicking Skyrim Properties/Local Files/Verify Inegrity to see if Steam can spot anything essential that might be missing or accidentally deleted from your Skyrim's base files.(Warning, if you have previously cleaned your DLCs using tes5edit, then this will revert them, so backing up any cleaned official esp files is suggested as well). Temporarily Removing the d3d9.dll from your Steam's Skyrim folderRunning Loot & Wryebash to ensure that your mods are at least aesthetically compatible & that your leveled lists aren't casung issues (leveled lists are notorious for ctds).And finally checking your plugins.txt (C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Skyrim\plugins.txt) to ensure it accurately refelcts your esp load out. If after having done all of the things above you are still receiving crashes on completely new saves, then we can virtually guarantee that it is a mod problem since we would have eliminated any chance that it was -A memory problem due to enb-A memory problem due to bad ini tweaks-Leveled list related issues-Damaged base files-or a plugins.txt related issue Just for fun I would also go ahead and ensure that your Skse is fresh and hasn't lost any files or corrupted by reinstalling 1.7.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EightLights Posted March 2, 2016 Author Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) If you are experiencing crashing like that my suspicion would not be finis, although it certainly wouldn't hurt to update to the newest version & run it so it can accommodate any potential issues. I can't imagine enbboost helping to eliminate issues not created originally by an enb. Enboost allows your enb to play nicer with Skyrim, but it shouldn't be able to rectify issues of memory that the enb isn't directly causing. At this point I would suggest-backing up your Skyrim Ini & prefs (found in my documents/Skyrim) & placing them temporarily in a different direction, running the Skyrim Launcher and allowing it rebuild fresh inis.-Going into Steam & Right clicking Skyrim Properties/Local Files/Verify Inegrity to see if Steam can spot anything essential that might be missing or accidentally deleted from your Skyrim's base files.(Warning, if you have previously cleaned your DLCs using tes5edit, then this will revert them, so backing up any cleaned official esp files is suggested as well). Temporarily Removing the d3d9.dll from your Steam's Skyrim folderRunning Loot & Wryebash to ensure that your mods are at least aesthetically compatible & that your leveled lists aren't casung issues (leveled lists are notorious for ctds).And finally checking your plugins.txt (C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\Skyrim\plugins.txt) to ensure it accurately refelcts your esp load out. If after having done all of the things above you are still receiving crashes on completely new saves, then we can virtually guarantee that it is a mod problem since we would have eliminated any chance that it was -A memory problem due to enb-A memory problem due to bad ini tweaks-Leveled list related issues-Damaged base files-or a plugins.txt related issue Just for fun I would also go ahead and ensure that your Skse is fresh and hasn't lost any files or corrupted by reinstalling 1.7.3 Just finished doing all that and everything checked out - except the game still crashes. Just tried launching no mods + skse + enb and the game crashed near Riverwood. Going to try with no enb and no skse after lunch, will check soon! (oh, and thanks again for all the help) EDIT: Damn, vanilla is crashing. Another clean install I guess. I don't understand, I used to have this problem in my old pc and when I changed I also did a clean install on the new one. What could be wrong? Edited March 2, 2016 by EightLights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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