Stable game - Install ENB - CTD while exploring

EightLights · March 2, 2016

Clean re-install, downloaded SKSE directly from their page and installed, installed FINIS and ran it.... And it still crashes near Riverwood... :confused:

(btw, how does one edit the topic name? I would like to update it. Is it a moderator exclusive thing?)

Edited March 2, 2016 by EightLights

TonyOQuinn · March 2, 2016

When you reinstall SKSE, remember to setup your sksi.ini.

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I created a vanilla profile in MO with only these enabled, just for starting a new character.

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Also, try setting your video control panel to vanilla as well--turn off all fancy effects except v-sync. If you're using enb, turn off v-sync, too, to let enb do all effects.

Once you've reached riverwood, stay vanilla until you talk to the blacksmith to end that quest stage. Hard save and load that save.

EightLights · March 2, 2016

On 3/2/2016 at 6:38 PM, Tony_OQuinn said:

When you reinstall SKSE, remember to setup your sksi.ini.

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[Display]
iTintTextureResolution=2048
EnableDiagnostics=0

[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=1024
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

[Memory_Notes]
; DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB
; Set DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB:Memory to 768. If you are using a lot of mods or higher uGrid than 5 then set 1024. Helps with CTD during save load, especially if you can load the save after qasmoke. Max value is 1280. If you are using ENB you may get CTD on startup with high value.

; 384 causes hang at loading screen
; 512 lowest working
; 896 causes crash at loading screen
; Defaults
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

I created a vanilla profile in MO with only these enabled, just for starting a new character.

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Also, try setting your video control panel to vanilla as well--turn off all fancy effects except v-sync. If you're using enb, turn off v-sync, too, to let enb do all effects.

Once you've reached riverwood, stay vanilla until you talk to the blacksmith to end that quest stage. Hard save and load that save.

All right, did all that and vanilla seems stable enough, after the hard save I was able to run to Whiterun, fast travel to Solitude and walk around a bit. Thank you!

Would it be safe to install enb and try to run a few mods? What type of mods should I run? I'm thinking of starting with graphical and lighting mods and going from there... I'm positive the game would CTD immediately if I tried to load my 200+ mod list in one go :wink:

Edited March 2, 2016 by EightLights

TonyOQuinn · March 2, 2016

On 3/2/2016 at 10:17 PM, EightLights said:

On 3/2/2016 at 6:38 PM, Tony_OQuinn said:

When you reinstall SKSE, remember to setup your sksi.ini.

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[Display]
iTintTextureResolution=2048
EnableDiagnostics=0

[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=1024
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

[Memory_Notes]
; DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB
; Set DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB:Memory to 768. If you are using a lot of mods or higher uGrid than 5 then set 1024. Helps with CTD during save load, especially if you can load the save after qasmoke. Max value is 1280. If you are using ENB you may get CTD on startup with high value.

; 384 causes hang at loading screen
; 512 lowest working
; 896 causes crash at loading screen
; Defaults
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

I created a vanilla profile in MO with only these enabled, just for starting a new character.

Reveal hidden contents
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Also, try setting your video control panel to vanilla as well--turn off all fancy effects except v-sync. If you're using enb, turn off v-sync, too, to let enb do all effects.

Once you've reached riverwood, stay vanilla until you talk to the blacksmith to end that quest stage. Hard save and load that save.

All right, did all that and vanilla seems stable enough, after the hard save I was able to run to Whiterun, fast travel to Solitude and walk around a bit. Thank you!

Would it be safe to install enb and try to run a few mods? What type of mods should I run? I'm thinking of starting with graphical and lighting mods and going from there... I'm positive the game would CTD immediately if I tried to load my 200+ mod list in one go :wink:

The thing to do now is make a backup. Create a new profile by copying your vanilla. Then add a few mods at a time, or tweak like a freak. Either way you now have a good place to revert back.

EightLights · March 3, 2016

On 3/2/2016 at 10:44 PM, Tony_OQuinn said:

On 3/2/2016 at 10:17 PM, EightLights said:

On 3/2/2016 at 6:38 PM, Tony_OQuinn said:

When you reinstall SKSE, remember to setup your sksi.ini.

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[Display]
iTintTextureResolution=2048
EnableDiagnostics=0

[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1

[Memory]
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=1024
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

[Memory_Notes]
; DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB
; Set DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB:Memory to 768. If you are using a lot of mods or higher uGrid than 5 then set 1024. Helps with CTD during save load, especially if you can load the save after qasmoke. Max value is 1280. If you are using ENB you may get CTD on startup with high value.

; 384 causes hang at loading screen
; 512 lowest working
; 896 causes crash at loading screen
; Defaults
DefaultHeapInitialAllocMB=768
ScrapHeapSizeMB=256

I created a vanilla profile in MO with only these enabled, just for starting a new character.

Reveal hidden contents
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Also, try setting your video control panel to vanilla as well--turn off all fancy effects except v-sync. If you're using enb, turn off v-sync, too, to let enb do all effects.

Once you've reached riverwood, stay vanilla until you talk to the blacksmith to end that quest stage. Hard save and load that save.

All right, did all that and vanilla seems stable enough, after the hard save I was able to run to Whiterun, fast travel to Solitude and walk around a bit. Thank you!

Would it be safe to install enb and try to run a few mods? What type of mods should I run? I'm thinking of starting with graphical and lighting mods and going from there... I'm positive the game would CTD immediately if I tried to load my 200+ mod list in one go :wink:

The thing to do now is make a backup. Create a new profile by copying your vanilla. Then add a few mods at a time, or tweak like a freak. Either way you now have a good place to revert back.

Alright! Thank you very much, will do!

I'll let know how it goes

EDIT:

Just ran this small mod list

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And I couldn't even make it to the brewery in Whiterun...

Here's my current ENBlocal ini

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I'll try to make some twiking of my own

Damn, if it doesn't crash, it freezes. If I can run around, I can't fight, what in the world is happening?!

Edited March 3, 2016 by EightLights

TonyOQuinn · March 3, 2016

On 3/3/2016 at 11:43 AM, EightLights said:

Alright! Thank you very much, will do!

I'll let know how it goes

EDIT:
Just ran this small mod list

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
WetandCold.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-4.esp
immersive roads.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
TrueStorms.esp
SkyUI.esp
Real Clouds.esp
TrueStorms-ClimatesOfTamriel.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

And textures too:

+Wet and Cold
+Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch
+True Storms - Thunder and Rain Redone v1.5
+Leaves FX - Super Performance
+Static Mesh Improvement Mod
+Snowfall FX
+SmallerCursor
+SkyUI
+SKSE.ini - Enables Memory Patch-50244-1-4a
+Remove small land rocks - extra performance
+Real Ice
+Real Foxes
+Real Clouds Version
+Rainfall FX
+Project Reality - Climates Of Tamriel-V3
+Pine Needles FX
+Nightingale Prime HD
+New Male Maps
+Lore-Based Loading Screens 1 1 Release
+Immersive Roads
+Enhanced Night Skyrim v04 High Stars
+Enhanced Lights and FX
+COMPLETE FULL 2K
+ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch
+Climates Of Tamriel - Winter Edition
+Climates Of Tamriel - Dragonborn Patch
+Bryce Nebula - Cerulean
*Unmanaged: Dawnguard
*Unmanaged: Dragonborn
*Unmanaged: HearthFires

And I couldn't even make it to the brewery in Whiterun...

Here's my current ENBlocal ini

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[PROXY]
EnableProxyLibrary=false
InitProxyFunctions=true
ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll

[GLOBAL]
UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true
UseDefferedRendering=false

[PERFORMANCE]
SpeedHack=true
EnableOcclusionCulling=true

[MEMORY]
ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=false
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false
ReservedMemorySizeMb=256
VideoMemorySizeMb=3968
EnableCompression=false
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false

[THREADS]
DataSyncMode=1
PriorityMode=0

[MULTIHEAD]
ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false
VideoAdapterIndex=0

[WINDOW]
ForceBorderless=false
ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false

[ENGINE]
ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true
MaxAnisotropy=16
ForceLodBias=false
LodBias=0.0
AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false
EnableVSync=false
VSyncSkipNumFrames=0

[LIMITER]
WaitBusyRenderer=false
EnableFPSLimit=false
FPSLimit=60.0

[iNPUT]
//shift
KeyCombination=16
//f12
KeyUseEffect=123
//home
KeyFPSLimit=36
//num / 106
KeyShowFPS=106
//print screen
KeyScreenshot=44
//enter
KeyEditor=13
//f4
KeyFreeVRAM=115
//B
KeyBruteForce=66

[ADAPTIVEQUALITY]
Enable=false
Quality=1
DesiredFPS=20.0

[ANTIALIASING]
EnableEdgeAA=false
EnableTemporalAA=false
EnableSubPixelAA=false
EnableTransparencyAA=false

[FIX]
FixGameBugs=true
FixParallaxBugs=true
FixParallaxTerrain=false
FixAliasedTextures=true
IgnoreInventory=true
FixTintGamma=true
RemoveBlur=false
FixSubSurfaceScattering=true
FixSkyReflection=true
FixCursorVisibility=true
FixLag=false

[LONGEXPOSURE]
EnableLongExposureMode=false
Time=1.0
BlendMax=0.0

I'll try to make some twiking of my own

Damn, if it doesn't crash, it freezes. If I can run around, I can't fight, what in the world is happening?!

Well that sucks, but at least you've narrowed down the problem within the first batch of changes. That's good progress.

Unfortunately I dont have experience with most of these climate and environment mods.

If you had enb installed yesterday when you were able to run around Solitude, the problem isn't there. Nonetheless there may be a couple of problems in your enblocal. I recommend these changes:

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If you made any changes to your video control panel, revert those because the freeze problem may be there.

Also I think you need UHRP.

Edited March 3, 2016 by Tony_OQuinn

EightLights · March 3, 2016

I've been testing all day and it seems to be freezing in places with a lot of movement, such as waterfalls and fights outside Riverwood. (Still can't reach Whiterun)

TonyOQuinn · March 3, 2016

On 3/3/2016 at 11:17 PM, EightLights said:
I've been testing all day and it seems to be freezing in places with a lot of movement, such as waterfalls and fights outside Riverwood. (Still can't reach Whiterun)

Could be vram starving, maybe due to a lot of high res texture mods. For a test to see if it's vram, try setting your graphics to medium in Skyrim Launcher. And in your enblocal.ini:

[MEMORY]

; VideoMemorySizeMb=3968 <-- increase this, probably will cause camera stuttering but should stop ctd

VideoMemorySizeMb=10240

EightLights · March 4, 2016

Will do. That makes me wonder... If I play Skyrim to medium, but still load mods like 2k skyrim and SMIM, am I going to notice a lot the changes vs playing on ultra?

EDIT: umm, the camera stuttering I had is virtually gone and it runs really smooth, until it starts freezing, 2 or 3 times, each time longer, and then freezes completely.

Edited March 4, 2016 by EightLights

EightLights · March 4, 2016

I just started a new game with the new profile (not the vanilla one, the slowly-add-mods one) and had a stupid bug I used to have sometime ago:

The Spinning Carriage!

Right at the opening sequence, when you're being transported to Helgen, the camera spins like you're inside a washing machine and if you tfc the thing is all wrong.

Does anyone know which mod causes this, I have none that changes carriage system, but when the game was running smoothly I used to have a problem which I couldn't fast travel in boats (like in Dawnstar and Solitude).

I have my fps limited to 50 using NVidea Inspector

And skipping the intro, I get infinite loading screens leaving the cave.

Sorry for dumping so much information here, but at least helps me organize and might help someone else when I finnaly figure out what's wrong~

Edited March 4, 2016 by EightLights

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