CTD when Trying to enter Temple of Kynareth

[Drebin901]

Hey all, this is my first time using the boards reporting an issue, so please excuse me if I muck something up.

 

I keep running into an issue where I go to enter the Temple of Kynareth in whiterun, and everytime I do it CTD's on me. I'm no stranger to random CTD's after the game's been running for prolonged periods of time, and normally I just reload the last save and I can enter an area fine. But this one I have not been able to get around, nor have I found a resolution to the issue that fits my mod loadout.

 

Machine is running 24GB's of RAM, latest Win10Pro update, 3rd gen i7, EVGA GTX970 card.

 

Running Legendary Skyrim with most recent patches, SKSE 1.7.3, use NMM 0.61.14, as well as LOOT to correct mod order,

 

Mod list is as-follows:

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 hdtHighHeel.esm
7 7 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
8 8 WinterholdDestruction.esm
9 9 Nock2Tip.esm
10 a ApachiiHair.esm
11 b ApachiiHairFemales.esm
12 c AzarHair.esm
13 d MFVM.esm
14 e Inn Girls Resources.esm
15 f ImmersiveContent.esm
16 10 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
17 11 RaceCompatibility.esm
18 12 AHZmoreHUD.esp
19 13 Extended UI.esp
20 14 AMatterOfTime.esp
21 15 Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp
22 16 LunariRace.esp
23 17 HDTPhysicsWeaponSling.esp
24 18 FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
25 19 HARODATH_ImmersiveSoulgems.esp
26 1a Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
27 1b BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp
28 1c ICROL - Legendary.esp
29 1d ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp
30 1e BluePalace.esp
31 1f DarkbroSanctuary.esp
32 20 MistveilKeep.esp
33 21 Palaces Castles Enhanced.esp
34 22 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
35 23 ElysiumEstate.esp
36 24 ElysiumEstate-HF.esp
37 25 Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
38 26 aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
39 27 KS Hairdo's.esp
40 28 Immersive Wenches.esp
41 29 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
42 2a Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
43 2b WATER DG + DB.esp
44 2c TheScarlett.esp
45 2d L0S and TaVE patch.esp
46 2e Better Vampires.esp
47 2f Atlas Legendary.esp
48 30 BosmericDrunkenHuntsmanReborn.esp
49 31 Inigo.esp
50 32 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
51 33 Emily.esp
52 34 SMIM-Merged-All.esp
53 35 konahrik_accoutrements.esp
54 36 teleport.esp
55 37 Signs_of_Skyrim.esp
56 38 spellpack1.esp
57 39 Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
58 3a Nock2Tip.esp
59 3b TownsandVillagesEnhancedProAlpha.esp
60 3c RiverwoodEnhancedPlugin.esp
61 3d Darkend.esp
62 3e Bijin Warmaidens.esp
63 3f Aeonbarr.esp
64 40 Apex Werewolf.esp
65 41 Cataract.esp
66 42 dwarvenrifle.esp
67 43 Fudou Myouou.esp
68 44 Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp
69 45 infernoadze.esp
70 46 The Huntsman.esp
71 47 PND.esp
72 48 AncientTonguesSword.esp
73 49 AncientTonguesGreatSword.esp
74 4a Tenebrae.esp
75 4b Bishu Osafune-ju Morikage.esp
76 4c Schwertleite Set.esp
77 4d EternalShineArmorAndWeapons.esp
78 4e TAVESolitude.esp
79 4f WATER Plants.esp
80 50 Thorald GreyMane.esp
81 51 TemptressVixen.esp
82 52 Animated Dragon Wings.esp
83 53 Beards.esp
84 54 Eyes of Aber.esp
85 55 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
86 56 NosPiercedEarsEbony.esp
87 57 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
88 58 Graesholt - Bleakcoast Cave Easter Egg Improved.esp
89 59 1nivWICCloaks.esp
90 5a CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp
91 5b DarkStandalone.esp
92 5c spellpack2.esp
93 5d Masters of Death - Sicarius Armor (Standalone).esp
94 5e Merta Black Rose Armor.esp
95 5f TERAArmors_CBBE.esp
96 60 WarmongerArmory_Vanilla.esp
97 61 WarmongerArmory_DLC.esp
98 62 aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
99 63 Bijin Wives.esp
100 64 FollowerWander2.esp
101 65 FollowerWander2Serana.esp
102 66 UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp
103 67 Astrid.esp
104 68 Elisif Makeover.esp
105 69 ElderOutfit.esp
106 6a Moniko.esp
107 6b Kavula_Vampire_Followers.esp
108 6c MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp
109 6d Spousetocustomhome.esp
110 6e Toccata.esp
111 6f Vivace.esp
112 70 ORM-Arvak.esp
113 71 CoT-WeatherPatch.esp
114 72 TAVEWindhelm.esp
115 73 Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp
116 74 ScarletDawnArmor.esp
117 75 Dark Ebony Valkyrie Armor.esp
118 76 insanity's daedric sword.esp
119 77 spellpack3.esp
120 78 unreadbooksglow.esp
121 79 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
122 7a Hanali.esp
123 7b The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
124 7c TAVERiften.esp
125 7d granitemaul.esp
126 7e konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp
127 7f Sicarius' Refuge.esp
128 80 Sulfuras The Reclaimed Hand - Johnskyrim.esp
129 81 valkyrja.esp
130 82 isilNarsil.esp
131 83 dragonslayer_dracula.esp
132 84 restoration_spell resurrect.esp
133 85 sara_gs.esp
134 86 KailanahFollower.esp
135 87 ColdharbourDaedra.esp
136 88 Recorder Follower Base.esp
137 89 BlairsAfterGlowFashion.esp
138 8a tbmChrysamere.esp
139 8b BlackSacramentArmor.esp
140 8c Faction Crossbows.esp
141 8d Sighne.esp
142 8e mintylightningmod.esp
143 8f MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
144 90 imperialshield.esp
145 91 Bear.esp
146 92 R18pn - lingerie Set.esp
147 93 mountaindew.esp
148 94 Hell Sword.esp
149 95 IceBladeOfTheMonarch.esp
150 96 My Home Is Your Home.esp
151 97 black knight.esp
152 98 ESO Nord Armor by NewerMind43.esp
153 99 ISD_Dragonspear.esp
154 9a Nicos Raven Swords.esp
155 9b LustmordVampireArmor.esp
156 9c Solvistapp.esp
157 9d Sand Scorpion.esp
158 9e Daedric Reaper Armor.esp
159 9f LeftHandRings_1stPersonView.esp
160 a0 Predator Vision.esp
161 a1 Stalwart Axe.esp
162 a2 Fetchers Knife.esp
163 a3 DaedricCrossbow.esp
164 a4 KJ Tattoos 2K.esp
165 a5 KJ Lore Tattoos 2K.esp
166 a6 Blaze Of Eventide.esp
167 a7 Merta Assassin Armor.esp
168 a8 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
169 a9 FS_Skycutter.esp
170 aa FS_NamelessLight.esp
171 ab FS_SwordofTruth.esp
172 ac PrvtIRings.esp
173 ad DAWN 1.esp
174 ae Golden Rings Of Craft.esp
175 af Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp
176 b0 Tembtra Thief Armor.esp
177 b1 Cassandra Frost Witch.esp
178 b2 LeftHandRings.esp
179 b3 ogDiverseDragons.esp
180 b4 SC_hairs.esp
181 b5 Chaconne.esp
182 b6 SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp
183 b7 MidnightBreed.esp
184 b8 BTRH_Tomoe.esp
185 b9 Bijin NPCs.esp
186 ba Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp
187 bb FNIS.esp
188 bc FNISspells.esp
189 bd UltimateShouting.esp
190 be More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp
191 bf More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp
192 c0 CiriOutfit.esp
193 c1 WATER - Sir Crabalot Returns.esp
194 c2 Better Dynamic Snow.esp
195 c3 Moss Rocks - Legendary.esp
196 c4 Brows.esp
197 c5 Unique Booze Bottles Alternate Names Version.esp
198 c6 SabreFurBag.esp
199 c7 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
200 c8 TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp
201 c9 KKSDGWeightSliderFix.esp
202 ca KKSDrBWeightFix.esp
203 cb KKFur.esp
204 cc RaceMenu.esp
205 cd RaceMenuPlugin.esp
206 ce RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
207 cf GDZZJJDH.esp
208 d0 BBD_NereidPirate.esp
209 d1 The Paarthurnax Ultimatum.esp
210 d2 RaceMenuOverlays.esp
211 d3 MarryMe.esp
212 d4 NoAnimalsReportCrimes-DG+DB.esp
213 d5 GoddessDiana.esp
214 d6 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
215 d7 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp
216 d8 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
217 d9 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
218 da CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp
219 db Celes Nightingale Armor.esp
220 dc Serana.esp
221 dd BetterStartDawnguard.esp
222 de ta4_sver.esp
223 df ta4_ris.esp
224 e0 TisseFollower.esp
225 e1 ColdharbourDaedraAtronachForge.esp
226 e2 Deadly Wenches.esp
227 e3 Skysan_AMB_CAPatch.esp
228 e4 UltimateDragons.esp
229 e5 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
230 e6 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
231 e7 dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
232 e8 AcquisitiveSoulGemMultithreaded.esp
233 e9 Neo's Selene.esp
234 ea Sina Follower.esp
235 eb Kristen Follower.esp
236 ec SexyVest.esp
237 ed Torcs_35.esp
238 ee SkyUI.esp
239 ef Atlas Compass Tweaks.esp
240 f0 Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp
241 f1 Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp
242 f2 Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp
243 f3 Khorah Orc Follower.esp
244 f4 Nylea.esp

 

 

Immersive Creatures I've turned off the random spawns as part of CTD prevention for Dustman's Cairn (which worked wonders), and I've tested disabling Nylea and Toccata from the game as well, but still keep hitting the CTD brick wall. Any and all input would be very much appreciated.

 

Thanks in Advance!

[Tertisentar]

Is it the case that you can enter the cell for the first time, and advance through it and exit, but then are CTD-locked out of it for the remainder of the game?

[Drebin901]

Nope, can't even go in once. I thought that was the case as well with my last game since I did go in at one point to get the Gildergreen quest, but I started fresh after being off the game for a while and I can't go in right off the bat.

[walshy71]

Do a test for me, make a save there and don't enter the Temple of Kynareth. Open up the console and type without the coma's "COC RiftenTempleofMara". If you crash, when teleporting to that cell you have an issue with the Temptress race as they are recruited in the temples. Also try "COC MarkarthTempleofDibella", "COC WindhelmTempleofTalso" and "COC SolitudeTempleoftheDivines". If you don't crash at those locations, you might want to go over your follower mods that may spawn in that location and see if you're missing necessary requirements for those or that particular follower. Also try spawning followers at your location before entering the cell. If you crash you've got a skeleton problem most likely.

Edited March 15, 2016 by walshy71

[Drebin901]

Thanks for the info Walshy. I ran through that list on two attempts.

 

1st attempt: Got into the temple of mara fine, but when trying to go into the temple of dibella it CTD.

 

2nd Attempt: Got into Talos, then Divines, then Dibella, and then was able to get into Kynareth using COC, but when trying to exit it crashed.

 

:< I'm guessing I need to lose some of these followers in order to help keep the game stable. *lesigh*

 

**EDIT** Just tried spawning the followers as well. Toccata showed up no problem, but Nylea definitely caused a CTD. Went back after an uninstall-reinstall of XPMS and spawned Nylea fine, but Toccata caused a CTD. o_o; One too many followers sharing similar space?

Edited March 19, 2016 by Drebin901

[Drebin901]

Just wanted to follow-up on this. I removed Nylea from the game and restarted, was able to continuously get into the temple of kynareth without issue. So too many followers in the one area definitely had a negative effect on the game.

:) Thanks again Walshy for the pointers.

[krisskiss]

Yes to much followers in same area crash game. My problem was warmaidens mod in a temple of mara, ads 10 followers inside.