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Rivelle's OMOD linked above allows you to select body options when you activate the OMOD (it comes with a script for that). As LFact points out, you can only have one body as your default ... if you select H-cup and LL bottom all female characters will be H-cup LL bottom (your's if you play a female and all female NPCs). That's the beauty of electrro's BBB Designer Body Spell. Cast the spell on an NPC and then select what body you want her to have. If you play a female cast the Set Body Self version of the spell and pick out a body that differs from the default (they're lesser powers so any level character can cast them).
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You guys, (ang gals if it applies) are awesome. I'm starting to get a handle on this mod stuff. Just one more question, For all the HGEC enhancements it is to my understanding that I have to use HGEC armour, and clothing to suit the enhancement. Im I correct?
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Just one more question, For all the HGEC enhancements it is to my understanding that I have to use HGEC armour, and clothing to suit the enhancement. Im I correct?

 

Correct, but incomplete. You need HGEC armour, and clothing, of the correct cup size for your character, or she'll vary from Tara Palmer-Tomkinson via Dolly Parton to Lola Ferrari when changing clothes. The clothing sets the cup size, not the underlying body.

 

Tara - "A" Cup-ish http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_01/taraREX0604_468x550.jpg

 

Dolly - "E" Cup-ish http://images.askmen.com/galleries/singer/dolly-parton/pictures/dolly-parton-picture-2.jpg

 

Lola - "K+" Cup-ish http://frogsmoke.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/lola%20ferrari.jpg

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Just one more question, For all the HGEC enhancements it is to my understanding that I have to use HGEC armour, and clothing to suit the enhancement. Im I correct?

 

Correct, but incomplete. You need HGEC armour, and clothing, of the correct cup size for your character, or she'll vary from Tara Palmer-Tomkinson via Dolly Parton to Lola Ferrari when changing clothes. The clothing sets the cup size, not the underlying body.

 

Tara - "A" Cup-ish http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_01/taraREX0604_468x550.jpg

 

Dolly - "E" Cup-ish http://images.askmen.com/galleries/singer/dolly-parton/pictures/dolly-parton-picture-2.jpg

 

Lola - "K+" Cup-ish http://frogsmoke.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/lola%20ferrari.jpg

 

Great analogy my friend, and thanks!

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The BBB Designer Body Spell mod adds two lesser power type spells, one to change other character's body type and one to change the player body type.

 

To expand on MarkinMKUK's explanation above, all characters are displayed via a combination of a skeleton (for the animations to work), a mesh (to add a shape to the skeleton) and a texture (to give the mesh skin and colour). When naked that is what the HGEC body displays. If you add a Better Bouncing Boobs (BBB) skeleton to the standard HGEC body then the naked character will have animated breasts when naked. With the standard skeleton you get the same body shape without the bounce.

 

In Obilivion when you put clothes or armor on a character the clothing replaces the covered parts of the body. The clothing replaces both meshes and textures on the affected body area. If the body uses textures that are not the same as the clothes or armor you will end up displaying a mixture of textures, often with undesirable side-effects (hands or feet of the wrong colour for example). If the clothing or armor is designed for a different body size, let's say B-cup and your installed default is H-cup, it will display a B-cup. That is why you should stick to using clothing and armor of the same type as the body you're using ... which leads me to one of the other cool aspect of BBB Designer Body Spell.

 

If you see some cool armor or clothing designed for another body type (say a Growlfs Hot Body type) you can use the spell on yourself or the other NPC to change them to a compatible body for those clothes and get around the miss matched texture problem. If you stick to just using your installed HGEC compatible clothing and armor, and you keep clothes on all your characters and NPCs the BBB Designer Body Spell doesn't offer much that you can't achieve by just dressing everyone in different sized clothing and armor. It's big benefit comes from mixing body types (dressed or naked).

 

As an added note, mixing non-BBBed clothing and armor with BBBed stuff causes no problems in the game if you use a BBB enabled skeleton. The bouncy bits won't work on the non-BBBed clothes obviously, but everything else displays as intended.

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I finally see the set body spells in the menu, now the problem is m character disappering on me, with exception to the head. Ive done a little research and saw mentions of a skeletal system for these new body types. Ive downloaded a couple and it changes nothing. Of course im proablly copying the files to the wrong locatons. Is there any skeleton specific to all the body models for the BBB Designer body spell mod?
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Coronerras' Maximum Compatibility Skeleton is a good choice if you don't require a special skeleton for a particular mod (it works well with all the common animation and body type replacers ... it's what I use). I think your missing body is more missing mesh/texture related though.

 

An easy mistake to make when copying and pasting is getting your paste in the wrong folder. If you look at your Data folder in Windows Explorer you shouldn't see a Data folder within your Oblivion/Data (e.g if you see Oblivion/Data/Data/... you've pasted into the wrong folder). Same applies to copying and pasting either the meshes or textures folders (you don't want to see Oblivion/Data/meshes/meshes or Oblivion/Data/textures/textures). If you do have misplaced folders the fix is easy ... right click the misplaced folder and select Cut from the right click menu and then paste into the correct folder. In the example of Oblivion/Data/Data you'd right click and cut the second Data folder (the one inside the Oblivion/Data folder) and then right click the Oblivion folder and select paste from the menu. In the meshes example you'd right click cut the second meshes folder and paste into the Data folder. The rule of thumb is always paste into one level higher than you copied.

 

The nice part of downloading to a separate folder and extracting into that same folder is you can examine the files a mod includes and the folder structure. I like to see what files a mod will potentially overwrite before I copy into my game installation (a more common case in animation replacers or armor/clothing replacers once you have already installed a few previously). The downside is you need to pay attention to where you are pasting into in your Oblivion install. If hard drive space isn't an issue you'll also have backups of your extracted downloads, if you need to recover from an overwrite down the road.

 

One last note about copy and paste. You'll get a warning about overwritting folders ... this is normal and it's OK to allow the overwrite (especially after you've checked out the files previously). None of your existing folders and contents will be lost UNLESS the files have the same name AND the same folder structure. Example ... Oblivion/Data/meshes/armor/cuirass.nif will not overwrite Oblivion/Data/meshes/armor/mymod/cuirass.nif but Oblivion/Data/meshes/armor/mymod/cuirass.nif obviously would.

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Hi,

 

Glad to hear you seem to be getting there.....been busy sorting my own issues with scripting problems :(

 

You might want to look at these two mods if your into female chars ans making them look 'nice' ;)

 

The Goddess store

 

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13437

 

very well made mod with lots of nice stuff for your char.

 

Abbotsford

 

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=38132

 

This one involves Desuchans Dollrace (my fave custom race) and makes a good main char to play.

 

Another couple of nice armours

 

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=38782

 

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20713

 

This one changes all stock clothing and armor for females in the game,but not too stupid....just shorter versions

 

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23143

 

All work well with HGEC

 

Have fun!

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