Akrid Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Something is only true, when you can observe it directly. Too bad mankind is incapable of observing anything as you put it. In that case this thread dosn't really exist and I'm not typing, and there is no sky etc. I think when you look up the word "false" in the dictinary your statment should be next to it. If sombody is standing behind me and I don't observe their there there still there! Otherwise everytime I turned my head everything behind me woulde disaperar into oblivion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnoc Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 Nope. You are observing (and I at the moment) that this thread is existing. But you can't be sure, if this thread existed a moment ago and that it will exist a moment later. You can also be not sure that it will exist, when you go to another place. But of course it is very probable that it did exist a moment ago, that it will exist a moment later and that it will exist, even when I leave it. But of things which I didn't observe (like everything that happened before I was born) I can't be certain. I can be more certain of things which were observed by other humans, but everything that happened before humans existed is and will be uncertain (only when someone builds a time machine and goes back in the past). I didn't say that everything doesn't exist, I only said that you can't be certain of it, when you are not observing it. And this is absolutely logical. But of course we must assume something, we can't live when we think that everything is uncertain. So there are things which we must assume that they are certain, such as our own existence and what our senses tell us is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikeman85 Posted January 1, 2004 Share Posted January 1, 2004 As I stated on another forum, evolution is simply genetic change in a population over time. (I.e. the change in alleles) This happens ALL the time in EVERY population. Thus the theory of evolution occurs. Period. That's all that's required for it. Been observed. Now there's always the chance that something might be thrown in that could disprove the whole thing, though I highly doubt it. Would be fun if it did though! Think of the way philosophy and science would change because of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darnoc Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 Yeah, that's why I never say that something is really true. You never know and I really would like to see the faces of all these "oh so smart" scientists, when all their "oh so smart" theories are disproved :D . Well, but perhaps it will never happen. The imagination of it is still funny. "I only know, that I don't know anything. But you know less, because you believe that you know something, but in reality you do not know anything at all. And that's why I know more than you do." (Socrates in front of the Athenian council before he was sentenced to death) Perhaps the day will come, when the stupid will rise and the smart will fall, the mighty will be destroyed and the weak will rule. It just gives me somekind of satisfaction to imagine it for myself. @pikeman: genetic change was observed. But never to the point that the new species couldn't breed anymore with the original species, because this would (in theory) require a lot more time than we have existed on earth. And because of this it is until today not observable and therefore uncertain. It was even observed that genetic change has a border, where no more change can occur (breeding experiments with sugar beets). Until we really see it happen, it will stay uncertain, an assumption. And of course will creation, because when this happened, it was a one-time process (if it happened) and therefore not observable anymore, so when creation would be true, we could never find the truth. Evolution instead is a process occuring all the time (at least in theory) and so there is a chance that we can observe it some time. But until then we must assume that it is perhaps not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almelexia Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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